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#4400128 - 01/15/18 07:11 PM Re: To -Ice: F/A-18C Hornet $ 59.99 [Re: - Ice]  
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Originally Posted by - Ice
Well, that explains it! Glowing Amraam is good!


Yep, you can guarantee his videos offer pretty much above and beyond anything you will ever experience or hear in-game


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#4400154 - 01/15/18 08:35 PM Re: To -Ice: F/A-18C Hornet $ 59.99 [Re: Sokol1]  
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If I wasn't so awestruck by his videos, I could swear it's well within false advertising territory biggrin


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#4400158 - 01/15/18 08:40 PM Re: To -Ice: F/A-18C Hornet $ 59.99 [Re: - Ice]  
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Originally Posted by - Ice
If I wasn't so awestruck by his videos, I could swear it's well within false advertising territory biggrin


There is a disclaimer, with regard to sounds, at the beginning of some of his videos. I rarely bother to watch them since they don't, typically, show me the sim that I will be getting.


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#4400172 - 01/15/18 09:16 PM Re: To -Ice: F/A-18C Hornet $ 59.99 [Re: theOden]  
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Originally Posted by theOden
They did better than that:

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=194439

I asked how making advertising vidoes could "further improve the product" but got no response to this date.


I remember his videos from over a decade ago for LOMAC. Before youtube was popular and the videos used to be uploaded to places such as Filefront. Good for him. Considering he did most if not all the recent videos, I already thought he was working with ED.

#4400174 - 01/15/18 09:21 PM Re: To -Ice: F/A-18C Hornet $ 59.99 [Re: cichlidfan]  
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Originally Posted by cichlidfan
There is a disclaimer, with regard to sounds, at the beginning of some of his videos. I rarely bother to watch them since they don't, typically, show me the sim that I will be getting.

"Sound FX have been added for cinematic purposes."
Seems like this one got the same treatment!


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#4400190 - 01/15/18 10:04 PM Re: To -Ice: F/A-18C Hornet $ 59.99 [Re: Sokol1]  
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His videos are always amazing, for sure. I have to constantly remind myself that I don't experience the same level of excitement when I play (some due to DCS's lack of immersion, some due to pilot capability as well...).


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#4400413 - 01/16/18 09:55 PM Re: To -Ice: F/A-18C Hornet $ 59.99 [Re: Sokol1]  
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Yeah they are pretty aren't they, but like all movies, it's a process of editing lots of stuff to make it look a way that appeals to the eye (and ears..... the sounds FX always bugs me though, in general sound in Sim's has been fairly average when compared to the visuals)


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#4400487 - 01/17/18 07:39 AM Re: To -Ice: F/A-18C Hornet $ 59.99 [Re: Sokol1]  
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is like any trailler , they show you the best bits

They dont show you:
DCS falling over more often than a one legged man in an arse kicking contest
Multiplayer timeouts
Massive MP lag spikes
Features not working right etc etc etc

Last edited by leaf_on_the_wind; 01/17/18 07:45 AM.


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#4400488 - 01/17/18 09:34 AM Re: To -Ice: F/A-18C Hornet $ 59.99 [Re: Sokol1]  
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A few bits are misleading as well. On a few shots, we can see the Hornet with Mk-82s, CBUs, and AIM-120s. There was even a shot of the Hornet dropping the dumb bombs.... so I guess these assets are available but the avionics needed to emply them are still non-existent. Not a glimpse of the A-G radar at all smile


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#4401629 - 01/24/18 01:24 AM Re: To -Ice: F/A-18C Hornet $ 59.99 [Re: Sokol1]  
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Wow. Could you possibly get any more toxic and cynical? Why do you even bother commenting on the sim if you're just going to do nothing except #%&*$# on every single aspect?

#4401646 - 01/24/18 08:33 AM Re: To -Ice: F/A-18C Hornet $ 59.99 [Re: Sokol1]  
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because they've been banned from the other forums that got tired of hearing it. you'd think they'd just move on to a new sim and leave things alone but..

i'm not going to pre-purchase the f-18, or at least not until it's much more clear that release is imminent. end of spring 2018 is a very ambiguous and distant release date.

#4401668 - 01/24/18 03:31 PM Re: To -Ice: F/A-18C Hornet $ 59.99 [Re: Sokol1]  
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well if some posters dont like hearing complaints about DCS on here

.......... there is a forum you can go to where all critcism is removed and suppressed
here is a link -> https://forums.eagle.ru



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#4401724 - 01/24/18 10:37 PM Re: To -Ice: F/A-18C Hornet $ 59.99 [Re: Sokol1]  
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"it wont release by the time end of spring"
"it won't be packing as much development as they say it will once it releases into early access"
"or if it does, some or all of it will be working with bugs or incorrectly"
"oh my god why do we have to pay $60-$80 to beta test this thing?!"
"the youtube movie is nice but its just a movie!"
"the avionics wont be complete because its early access! whats the point!"
"lol they're *still* developing an A-G radar? god how difficult can it be!"
"omg the dynamic campaign in Falcon 4 and BMS is way better!"
"lets count all the rivets lol"
"how dare ED develop the underlying foundation systems before all the fun shooty stuff???"
"remember when we got absolutely zero news about the hornet for years? now its time to complain that its going to spend time available to us to play, but only in a continually-updated state until its feature complete. Damn you, ED!"
"audio immersion! Who needs that!"
"Haha, screw all the idiots who purchase the early access hornet and enjoy it for months before I get to play a polished version."
"lol a business trying to market their product, how dare they"



gosh thats some real constructive criticism there fellas, really promotes an atmosphere of discussion

now excuse me while I go play a multitude of high fidelity hornet sims like Jane's F/A-18... oh doesn't work on win10. Strike Fighters 2? Pretty but missing some necessary features.... BMS? a pig in a dress is still a pig. Seven-G demo? nice to fly in but thats it. VRS Superbug? Gorgeous... but you're still flying in a civilian aircraft simulator world, lol.

#4401725 - 01/24/18 10:51 PM Re: To -Ice: F/A-18C Hornet $ 59.99 [Re: Sokol1]  
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The problem is that yes, it has all been discussed to death for the last 10 years....but ED simply hasn't changed and hasn't learned from all their mistakes.....

Out of all the 'quotes' you posted, one stands out to me and that is "how dare ED develop the underlying foundation systems before all the fun shooty stuff" - In case you weren't aware, ED have been developing the underlying foundation systems since 2008, exactly when are we going to get the high fidelity Digital COMBAT Simulator that was promised?

Forums don't have be full of constructive criticism...what's the point in being 'constructive' when ED don't listen anyway? Forums are for people to post and discuss their opinions, something that the ED message boards don't allow.


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#4401729 - 01/24/18 11:07 PM Re: To -Ice: F/A-18C Hornet $ 59.99 [Re: Sokol1]  
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Was the A-10C not a high fidelity digital combat simulator?

#4401738 - 01/25/18 12:29 AM Re: To -Ice: F/A-18C Hornet $ 59.99 [Re: Sokol1]  
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In what terrain? The unfinished Caucasus or the unfinished Nevada.......and what unfinished high fidelity targets and foes can you engage?

At least you took the best example, I could list every other unfinished module in the unfinished World other than the Shark. I could also list several training aircraft that dont even carry weapons in this amazing ‘high fidelity combat sim’.

Why don’t you tell me all about the high fidelity combat you could have in the Christen Eagle II?


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#4401758 - 01/25/18 03:38 AM Re: To -Ice: F/A-18C Hornet $ 59.99 [Re: Sokol1]  
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Great video, makes me eager to buy it in three years’ if/when complete pilot

#4401772 - 01/25/18 09:55 AM Re: To -Ice: F/A-18C Hornet $ 59.99 [Re: Lion]  
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Originally Posted by Lion
Wow. Could you possibly get any more toxic and cynical? Why do you even bother commenting on the sim if you're just going to do nothing except #%&*$# on every single aspect?

I don't mind the "toxic and cynical" bit.... but please point out where we're wrong on what we've said. If you want all rainbows and unicorns, go to the ED forums. "#%&*$# on every single aspect"? LOL, that's ED's doing.

Originally Posted by VF9_Longbow
because they've been banned from the other forums that got tired of hearing it. you'd think they'd just move on to a new sim and leave things alone but..
i'm not going to pre-purchase the f-18, or at least not until it's much more clear that release is imminent. end of spring 2018 is a very ambiguous and distant release date.

FYI, I'm not banned over there. Also, the "other forums" have not gotten "tired" of hearing it. Suppression and censorship, more like. Ban members and purge threads just because you're "tired of hearing it"?? Ha!

Originally Posted by Lion
gosh thats some real constructive criticism there fellas, really promotes an atmosphere of discussion

Feel free to show us where ED listened to constructive criticism? Have ED decided on a new "phone home" timeframe yet? No? Feel free to show us where ED listened to constructive criticism. smile

Originally Posted by Lion
now excuse me while I go play a multitude of high fidelity hornet sims like Jane's F/A-18... oh doesn't work on win10. Strike Fighters 2? Pretty but missing some necessary features.... BMS? a pig in a dress is still a pig. Seven-G demo? nice to fly in but thats it. VRS Superbug? Gorgeous... but you're still flying in a civilian aircraft simulator world, lol.

Obviously, your expectations are.... different. Also, please feel free to elaborate how BMS is a pig. This should be good. Maybe BMS also has crappy 1999 graphics?? biggrin biggrin biggrin

Originally Posted by Lion
Was the A-10C not a high fidelity digital combat simulator?

Yes... now please show us where we're complaining about DCS A10C?


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#4401838 - 01/25/18 05:34 PM Re: To -Ice: F/A-18C Hornet $ 59.99 [Re: Sokol1]  
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....In other words, his choices are the Pig or the Hog?

#4401860 - 01/25/18 07:21 PM Re: To -Ice: F/A-18C Hornet $ 59.99 [Re: WharfRat]  
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Originally Posted by WharfRat
....In other words, his choices are the Pig or the Hog?

I just love it when people make comments like "DCS rules, all other sims suxxx bollz lol!"
Yeah, bro, that statement is totally legit and establishes great credibility! biggrin


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