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#4399558 - 01/12/18 04:48 PM To -Ice: F/A-18C Hornet $ 59.99  
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#4399564 - 01/12/18 05:00 PM Re: To -Ice: F/A-18C Hornet $ 59.99 [Re: Sokol1]  
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I would feel slightly ripped off if I'd just paid $79.99 and now it's reduced and on sale before it is even released...


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#4399566 - 01/12/18 05:10 PM Re: To -Ice: F/A-18C Hornet $ 59.99 [Re: mdwa]  
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Originally Posted by mdwa
I would feel slightly ripped off if I'd just paid $79.99 and now it's reduced and on sale before it is even released...


That makes no sense. How would that happen since this is the first chance to buy it? You would have to wait until release to pay $79.99.


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#4399575 - 01/12/18 05:35 PM Re: To -Ice: F/A-18C Hornet $ 59.99 [Re: Sokol1]  
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Looking good!
Can't wait to try it out 3 years from now!

#4399583 - 01/12/18 05:54 PM Re: To -Ice: F/A-18C Hornet $ 59.99 [Re: cichlidfan]  
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Originally Posted by cichlidfan
Originally Posted by mdwa
I would feel slightly ripped off if I'd just paid $79.99 and now it's reduced and on sale before it is even released...


That makes no sense. How would that happen since this is the first chance to buy it? You would have to wait until release to pay $79.99.


Wasn't it already on sale already for $79.99?

Shows how much attention I've been paying to DCS lately...


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#4399587 - 01/12/18 06:07 PM Re: To -Ice: F/A-18C Hornet $ 59.99 [Re: mdwa]  
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Originally Posted by mdwa
Originally Posted by cichlidfan
Originally Posted by mdwa
I would feel slightly ripped off if I'd just paid $79.99 and now it's reduced and on sale before it is even released...


That makes no sense. How would that happen since this is the first chance to buy it? You would have to wait until release to pay $79.99.


Wasn't it already on sale already for $79.99?



No. Today is the first time that it has ever been for sale.

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Shows how much attention I've been paying to DCS lately...


Not paying attention to something generally causes you to miss events, not imagine that they have occurred.

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#4399609 - 01/12/18 07:21 PM Re: To -Ice: F/A-18C Hornet $ 59.99 [Re: Sokol1]  
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With that title, I thought you were going to gift me the Hornet. biggrin

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The Hornet is a true multi-role fighter that can switch from attacking surface targets to engaging air targets with the press of a button.

Yes, but A-A engagement effectiveness is already reduced due to limited A-A radar modes and missile availability. Also, no A-G mode at all.

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Equally at home on an aircraft carrier or airfield, the Hornet is equipped with a large suite of sensors that include radar, target pod, and a helmet mounted sight.

None of which will be available on early access. Well, maybe the A-A radar, and even then, not all of it.

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In addition to its internal 20mm cannon, the Hornet can be armed with large assortment of unguided bombs and rockets, laser- and -GPS-guided bombs, air-to-surface missiles of all sorts, and both radar- and infrared-guided air-to-air missiles.

Dumb bombs only on early access.

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DCS World provides the most rich and authentic digital battlefield for the Hornet to fly in.

LOL, wut?

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Realistic model of the F/A-18C, down to each bolt

I guess this takes rivet-counting to a whole new level!

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Detailed simulation of the Hornet’s many systems like engines, fuel, electrical, hydraulic, radios, lighting, emergency, and many, many more

Yessss!!! Enjoy accurate "deedle-deedle" implementation as you wait for your A-G radar, AIM-120B/C, and guided munitions!

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Virtually all the weapons and sensors that a mid-2000s US Navy F/A-18C operates

Coming whenever we can be bothered to take the Hornet out of EA.

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Authentic Hornet sounds with assistance from Boeing

I'm looking forward to this one. Let's see if they can make them sound more like fighter jets and less like airlines.

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New effects like over-wing vapor

No sim is complete without over-wing vapors!!! Oh, you wanted A-G radar? Sorry, we ran out of time implementing that coz we were too busy with "deedle-deedle" and LEX vapors!

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Multiple liveries

Is this still really a "feature" in 2018???



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During the Early Access period, the following items will be added to DCS: F/A-18C Hornet:

New and updated sensors to include air-to-ground radar, additional air-to-air radar modes, Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing System (JHMCS), Link-16 Datalink, and targeting pod.
New weapons such as Harpoon, HARM, Shrike, Maverick, JSOW and SLAM, SLAM-ER missiles, Walleye, laser- and GPS-guided bombs, sea mines, fire bombs, TALD decoys, and AIM-9X and AIM-120 air-to-air missiles.
Additional display pages like the Situational Awareness, Flight Performance Advisory System, and Automatic Carrier Landing pages.

I'm glad they put this up on the spiel..... and I notice they've not put a timeframe on this. I guess Matt no longer gives estimates, but what's stopping him from giving promises on this one? biggrin biggrin biggrin


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Pre-purchase now for $59.99 and save $20 from the Early Access release price of $79.99. We plan Early Access DCS: F/A-18C Hornet to be available for download by the end of Spring 2018.

This is something I'm actually torn about.... do I buy now and experience the fiasco for myself as it happens? Or do I continue to let others be the guinea pigs and wait 2-3 years after EA and buy this module on a 50%-off sale? By that time, most of the bugs will be ironed out (hopefully) and A-G, Link-16, guided munitions, and other goodies will be implemented (hopefully), and there may even be a campaign or two to play with.... we will see.

Luckily, it seems that I'll have a few projects on my hands this year so I may not even notice the year going by....

BTW, is this going to have the BS keyless system like in the Harrier? Seems like no mention of it on the newsletter....


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#4399619 - 01/12/18 07:46 PM Re: To -Ice: F/A-18C Hornet $ 59.99 [Re: - Ice]  
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Originally Posted by - Ice
BTW, is this going to have the BS keyless system like in the Harrier? Seems like no mention of it on the newsletter....


I am guessing that the new system is intended to be applied to all future modules. Hopefully, they will have settled on an offline solution in the months before the release.

Of course, by specifying Spring, 2018, they did not specify the hemisphere. The end of spring in the southern half of the planet won't occur until December. wink

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#4399622 - 01/12/18 08:02 PM Re: To -Ice: F/A-18C Hornet $ 59.99 [Re: Sokol1]  
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I'm sure it's a fine simulation, now or eventually but my brain doesn't even register marketing wank as human communication.

#4399635 - 01/12/18 08:38 PM Re: To -Ice: F/A-18C Hornet $ 59.99 [Re: Sokol1]  
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marketing wank ...... pmsl


Finishing a product (that has already been paid for) shouldn't be a priority but an obligation.

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#4399653 - 01/12/18 09:59 PM Re: To -Ice: F/A-18C Hornet $ 59.99 [Re: cichlidfan]  
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Originally Posted by cichlidfan
I am guessing that the new system is intended to be applied to all future modules. Hopefully, they will have settled on an offline solution in the months before the release.
Of course, by specifying Spring, 2018, they did not specify the hemisphere. The end of spring in the southern half of the planet won't occur until December. wink

Yessss.... yeeeessssss.... come to the dark side..... biggrin

They should probably clarify this in their description somewhere, as not everyone may be aware of the stunt they pulled with the Harrier and the DRM.


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#4399675 - 01/12/18 11:57 PM Re: To -Ice: F/A-18C Hornet $ 59.99 [Re: Sokol1]  
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Hello Everyone,

I am waiting.

Reason:

Originally Posted by Wags


Following the early access release, we plan to include many more sensors, weapons, and decoys for the final product. Please note that this list is also subject to change:

Sensors:
A/A radar with TWS, SCAN RAID, AZ/EL
A/G radar with MAP, EXP1, EXP2, EXP3, SEA, GMT, PVU, AGR, IRA, and TA
AN/ASQ-228 ATFLIR Targeting Pod
Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing System (JHMCS)
Link-16
AWW-13 Datalink Pod
Weapons:
AGM-88C HARM
AGM-45A/B Shrike
AGM-84D Block 1C Harpoon
AGM-84E SLAM
AGM-84H SLAM-ER
AGM-65E Maverick
AGM-65F/G Maverick
AGM-154A JSOW
AGM-154C JSOW
Walleye I ER/DL
Walleye II ER/DL
GBU-10 Paveway II
GBU-12 Paveway II
GBU-16 Paveway II
GBU-24B/B Paveway III
GBU-38 JDAM
GBU-31 JDAM
GBU-32 JDAM
AIM-9X Sidewinder
AIM-120B/C AMRAAM
Mk-40 Destructor Sea Mine
Mk-63 Quickstrike Sea Mine
Mk-77 Fire Bomb

Decoys:
ADM-141 TALD
GEN-X


Once those features are confirmed, implemented and, working correctly, that is the Hornet I will gladly pay for. Could be weeks, months, years.

Also, no mention of what DRM the F/A-18C will have.

I have been waiting since Jane's F-18 (1999), I can wait longer while enjoying a full featured A-10C

Happy Simming,
Monnie



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#4399679 - 01/13/18 12:19 AM Re: To -Ice: F/A-18C Hornet $ 59.99 [Re: Sokol1]  
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Remember guys... the newsletter said this:
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Pre-purchase now for $59.99 and save $20 from the Early Access release price of $79.99. We plan Early Access DCS: F/A-18C Hornet to be available for download by the end of Spring 2018.


That is very clearly an estimate, not a PROMISE!
biggrin biggrin biggrin


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#4399682 - 01/13/18 12:33 AM Re: To -Ice: F/A-18C Hornet $ 59.99 [Re: - Ice]  
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Originally Posted by - Ice
Remember guys... the newsletter said this:
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Pre-purchase now for $59.99 and save $20 from the Early Access release price of $79.99. We Early Access DCS: F/A-18C Hornet to be available for download by the end of Spring 2018.


That is very clearly an estimate, not a PROMISE!
biggrin biggrin biggrin



Same as my waiting.

Following the early access release, we plan to include many more sensors, weapons, and decoys for the final product. Please note that this list is also subject to change:



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#4399693 - 01/13/18 02:35 AM Re: To -Ice: F/A-18C Hornet $ 59.99 [Re: Sokol1]  
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Big no from me.

Still no clarity as to whether the dcs ww2 product we paid for is being progressed. No sign it is.

Ask a polite question about it in their forums and you get banned or abused by trolls.

Sorry. But past history here does not deserve support.

#4399741 - 01/13/18 02:22 PM Re: To -Ice: F/A-18C Hornet $ 59.99 [Re: Sokol1]  
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they show some carrier Ops in the vid, but I saw nowehere that they talk about it for EA


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#4400045 - 01/15/18 09:11 AM Re: To -Ice: F/A-18C Hornet $ 59.99 [Re: Sokol1]  
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If they know how to do anything, it's awesome teaser videos. The ones for the Viggen were quite cool as well. However, notice that it didn't give anything away.... we saw bombs dropping but no sign of A-G radar. We saw carrier ops but are these the new carriers or the old ones? I didn't notice if any of the A-A engagements involved the -120.


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Originally Posted by - Ice
If they know how to do anything, it's awesome teaser videos. The ones for the Viggen were quite cool as well. However, notice that it didn't give anything away.... we saw bombs dropping but no sign of A-G radar. We saw carrier ops but are these the new carriers or the old ones? I didn't notice if any of the A-A engagements involved the -120.


Probably because it's not ED making the videos!.....otherwise they'd be delayed too.

Did they not get Glowing_Amraam to do the official videos a while back?


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They did better than that:

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=194439

I asked how making advertising vidoes could "further improve the product" but got no response to this date.

#4400123 - 01/15/18 06:34 PM Re: To -Ice: F/A-18C Hornet $ 59.99 [Re: Sokol1]  
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Well, that explains it! Glowing Amraam is good!


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