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#4398234 - 01/04/18 01:58 PM Re: Fix For Intel CPU Flaw to Slow Millions of PC's [Re: F4UDash4]  
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Sounds like more of a problem for data centers and SSD performance, not a big deal for gaming.


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#4398236 - 01/04/18 02:12 PM Re: Fix For Intel CPU Flaw to Slow Millions of PC's [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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Originally Posted by RSColonel_131st
Naaaah PM... they wouldn't do that, would they...

According to Intel the fact he sold all stocks down to the minimum amount he's required to keep was a "preplanned diversifaction" or somesuch. The fact it was set in motion after Intel was informed of the flaw does have *nothing* to do with it... really.

^That's actually why I'm losing my faith in capitalism these days. These big de-facto monopoly companies can get away with everything.



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#4398239 - 01/04/18 02:26 PM Re: Fix For Intel CPU Flaw to Slow Millions of PC's [Re: 462cid]  
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Originally Posted by 462cid
Originally Posted by RSColonel_131st
Naaaah PM... they wouldn't do that, would they...

According to Intel the fact he sold all stocks down to the minimum amount he's required to keep was a "preplanned diversifaction" or somesuch. The fact it was set in motion after Intel was informed of the flaw does have *nothing* to do with it... really.

^That's actually why I'm losing my faith in capitalism these days. These big de-facto monopoly companies can get away with everything.



We're lucky to live in a society that has the luxury of finding fault in capitalism.



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#4398249 - 01/04/18 03:14 PM Re: Fix For Intel CPU Flaw to Slow Millions of PC's [Re: F4UDash4]  
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How convenient this bug's fix doesn't cause slowdowns in newer processors but older ones may see large performance decreases. Bastards. Refuse to update and give them the finger. Refuse to buy their crap.

#4398251 - 01/04/18 03:19 PM Re: Fix For Intel CPU Flaw to Slow Millions of PC's [Re: Mr_Blastman]  
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Originally Posted by Mr_Blastman
How convenient this bug's fix doesn't cause slowdowns in newer processors but older ones may see large performance decreases. Bastards. Refuse to update and give them the finger. Refuse to buy their crap.



Just go to AMD!


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#4398340 - 01/04/18 11:48 PM Re: Fix For Intel CPU Flaw to Slow Millions of PC's [Re: F4UDash4]  
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I could, but I'm scarred from VIA nightmares. You can buy AMD motherboards without VIA chipsets these days? I've not looked at AMD in years.

#4398392 - 01/05/18 02:25 PM Re: Fix For Intel CPU Flaw to Slow Millions of PC's [Re: F4UDash4]  
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Looks like iPhones and other devices that use ARM chips could be at risk too

https://uk.yahoo.com/finance/news/a...-vulnerable-hackers-heres-100004078.html

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Apple has admitted that a pair of security vulnerabilities in processors affect ‘nearly all’ iOS devices and Mac computers.
The issues – Spectre and Meltdown – are flaws in computer chips which could, in theory, allow hackers to steal data from affected systems.
There is no evidence that the flaws – which affect computer processors built by Intel and ARM – have so far been exploited by hackers, although companies including Microsoft have been working to provide urgent fixes

‘Apple has already released mitigations in iOS 11.2, macOS 10.13.2, and tvOS 11.2 to help defend against Meltdown. Apple Watch is not affected by Meltdown. In the coming days we plan to release mitigations in Safari to help defend against Spectre. We continue to develop and test further mitigations for these issues and will release them in upcoming updates of iOS, macOS, tvOS, and watchOS.’


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#4398460 - 01/05/18 09:32 PM Re: Fix For Intel CPU Flaw to Slow Millions of PC's [Re: F4UDash4]  
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Facebook has slowed to a crawl today, for me at least. Related?

I though it was my ISP but then I came here and BOOM everything loaded in a hurry. And the PC I'm on has an AMD CPU.


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#4398502 - 01/06/18 03:40 AM Re: Fix For Intel CPU Flaw to Slow Millions of PC's [Re: F4UDash4]  
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#4398508 - 01/06/18 04:35 AM Re: Fix For Intel CPU Flaw to Slow Millions of PC's [Re: F4UDash4]  
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Apple says iPhone / iPad also affected.


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#4398549 - 01/06/18 03:27 PM Re: Fix For Intel CPU Flaw to Slow Millions of PC's [Re: F4UDash4]  
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#4398566 - 01/06/18 05:00 PM Re: Fix For Intel CPU Flaw to Slow Millions of PC's [Re: F4UDash4]  
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The bad man shakes the boxes to find your treasure.

Computer has to spend more time hiding the treasure.

Computer is slow now frown



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#4398586 - 01/06/18 06:50 PM Re: Fix For Intel CPU Flaw to Slow Millions of PC's [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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Originally Posted by RSColonel_131st
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I hope someone drags him to court for that.

Doubtful, just look at the Equifax data breach

#4398749 - 01/07/18 09:44 PM Re: Fix For Intel CPU Flaw to Slow Millions of PC's [Re: F4UDash4]  
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#4398805 - 01/08/18 06:36 AM Re: Fix For Intel CPU Flaw to Slow Millions of PC's [Re: F4UDash4]  
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A flaw crossing manufactures and architectures. Looks like a CIA back door has been leaked.

#4398806 - 01/08/18 06:47 AM Re: Fix For Intel CPU Flaw to Slow Millions of PC's [Re: Aullido]  
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Originally Posted by Aullido
A flaw crossing manufactures and architectures. Looks like a CIA back door has been leaked.


This is what Kaspersky found and talked about I believe.. Seems he was right wink


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#4398845 - 01/08/18 02:27 PM Re: Fix For Intel CPU Flaw to Slow Millions of PC's [Re: Aullido]  
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Originally Posted by Aullido
A flaw crossing manufactures and architectures.


That isn't exactly true.

I forget where I read it, or all the details of what I read, but there are two exploits to be concerned with: Meltdown and Spectre. One, Meltdown I believe, only affects Intel and some ARM CPUs. And there are two variants of Spectre, only one of which affects AMD, as well as ARM and Intel.

Of course manufacturers share certain architecture feature, just as Ford and BMW both use pistons and crankshafts in their engines. I think it's a bit early to jump to the conclusion that this is all a conspiracy cooked up by the CIA.


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#4398993 - 01/09/18 02:59 AM Re: Fix For Intel CPU Flaw to Slow Millions of PC's [Re: F4UDash4]  
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Buggy Win7 Meltdown patch KB 4056894 throwing blue screens

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Microsoft’s hasty Meltdown/Spectre patches, released late on Jan. 4, have started baring their fangs. Complaints about Win10 Fall Creators Update cumulative update KB 4056892 and Win7 Monthly Rollup KB 4056894 resulting in blue screens — particularly on AMD Athlon, Sempron, Opteron and Turion processors — started appearing shortly after the patches were released.

With no notice or warning, Microsoft moved the Win7 patch, KB 4056894, from version 1 to version 2 on Jan. 5. As of early Monday morning, Jan. 8, version 2 is the only version available on the Microsoft Update Catalog. The Win10 1709 patch, KB 4056892, is still at version 1.

According to @abbodi86 on AskWoody, the jump from version 1 to version 2 was a metadata change — generally, a change in the way the patch is installed. The KB 4056894 patch itself didn't change. Microsoft hasn’t said anything.


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#4399057 - 01/09/18 02:30 PM Re: Fix For Intel CPU Flaw to Slow Millions of PC's [Re: F4UDash4]  
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So from what I've read, a Win10 PC must have some specific registry flag set by an Anti-Virus software package BEFORE the MS patch for this problem will be installed. If that flag isn't set (and apparently some AV software products don't set it), there will be no patch installed.

Are the MS patches for Win10 cumulative now? I thought I'd read that. If so, then it would seem possible that not having an AV package that sets the registry flag could block all Win10 patches until the PC user gets past that problem (if they realize they've got that problem).


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#4399062 - 01/09/18 02:42 PM Re: Fix For Intel CPU Flaw to Slow Millions of PC's [Re: F4UDash4]  
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I have updates set to manual, I get a notice and then decide to install or not. So I get a notice yesterday and after reading about this update I declined it. When I check my PC this morning the update had installed at 3 AM.


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