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#4396971 - 12/27/17 11:24 AM OT: have to love these battle scenes...  
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Something worth watching with some popcorn...



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#4396987 - 12/27/17 12:32 PM Re: OT: have to love this battle scenes... [Re: ArisFuser]  
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Not a lot of people know that later in the war, both sides replaced their wooden wing struts and spars with adamantium ones so the planes could better handle their Mach 1 dives that were powered by the newly installed Tesseract cube engines. JFM, check my history on that, please? biggrin


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#4397003 - 12/27/17 01:37 PM Re: OT: have to love these battle scenes... [Re: ArisFuser]  
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I can’t decide which I like more: The HP heavy bombers doing their work at 1,500’; the endlessly firing Lewis that never needs a drum change; the Alb V-Strutters that can out-maneuver Camels; the Harry Tate that is matching the Alb and the Spad 7 in a power dive; also the Camel that can keep up with the Alb in a power dive; the power dives in general; the Camel that makes a climbing left-hand turn in its own length; the “formation” flying; the long; backward smirking looks while flying straight and level as an enemy is firing away on their six. Really, there’s just so many to choose from. Historical accuracy at its cinematic best.

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#4397005 - 12/27/17 02:02 PM Re: OT: have to love these battle scenes... [Re: ArisFuser]  
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I love the need felt by Hollywood Directors to jam-pack the screen with planes. Want excitement? Pack the planes closer together. Why don't they simply fly WOFF for a week and video-cap the screen?


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#4397009 - 12/27/17 02:26 PM Re: OT: have to love these battle scenes... [Re: ArisFuser]  
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I watched Dunkirk - the movie - last week and when they did happen to show some air to air combat, it was refreshing to see that they didn't "Hollywood" it up with insane speeds and impossible aircraft agility. I thought Christopher Nolan (the director) did an excellent job of keeping it real. Kudos to him for not turning WWII air combat into a Transformers-like movie.


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#4397136 - 12/28/17 02:03 PM Re: OT: have to love these battle scenes... [Re: Hauksbee]  
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Originally Posted by Hauksbee
I love the need felt by Hollywood Directors to jam-pack the screen with planes. Want excitement? Pack the planes closer together. Why don't they simply fly WOFF for a week and video-cap the screen?


Pet peeve number one!!!!! Every CGI scene is crammed, as if their only reference guide were a Sergeant Rock comic book from the 1960s.

#4397140 - 12/28/17 02:12 PM Re: OT: have to love these battle scenes... [Re: RAF_Louvert]  
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Originally Posted by RAF_Louvert
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I can’t decide which I like more: The HP heavy bombers doing their work at 1,500’; the endlessly firing Lewis that never needs a drum change; the Alb V-Strutters that can out-maneuver Camels; the Harry Tate that is matching the Alb and the Spad 7 in a power dive; also the Camel that can keep up with the Alb in a power dive; the power dives in general; the Camel that makes a climbing left-hand turn in its own length; the “formation” flying; the long; backward smirking looks while flying straight and level as an enemy is firing away on their six. Really, there’s just so many to choose from. Historical accuracy at its cinematic best.

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I've only watched the film once. Never again!


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#4397155 - 12/28/17 03:26 PM Re: OT: have to love these battle scenes... [Re: ArisFuser]  
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No point in my commenting. You folks nailed it all. The coffin is closed. All that remains is to bury it.


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#4397163 - 12/28/17 04:00 PM Re: OT: have to love these battle scenes... [Re: ArisFuser]  
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The only thing they got right, was to show that most of those Pilots where young men.

#4397183 - 12/28/17 04:58 PM Re: OT: have to love these battle scenes... [Re: ArisFuser]  
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I REALLY disliked this film. Very much. Yes, the CGI airplanes were over the top, for sure. But the story! God Almighty. It wasn't even about Richthofen! Brown and MvR becoming friends!?? WTF! Roy Brown escorting Manfred's "girlfriend" across the lines so she could be at his funeral? They didn't get his personality down at all. He was not a lady's man. All who knew him said that he was rather shy (if that's the right word) around women. His brother Lothar was the Lathario. He was a womanizer and a drinker. As a matter of fact, he was killed after the war in a plane crash with a famous German actress. They reversed the two personalities and made Lothar the hard assed Prussian. Why!? Richthofen was too much of a proud German to have ever told the Kaiser that the war was lost. Terrible picture. The true story of the man has yet to be made. This surely wasn't it.


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#4397272 - 12/29/17 02:12 AM Re: OT: have to love these battle scenes... [Re: ArisFuser]  
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#4397313 - 12/29/17 02:05 PM Re: OT: have to love these battle scenes... [Re: ArisFuser]  
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Argh, that was ...bizarre, lol.

#4397330 - 12/29/17 04:00 PM Re: OT: have to love these battle scenes... [Re: ArisFuser]  
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What the Hell was that??? Andy Rooney should never have been that hard up, nope .

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#4398053 - 01/03/18 05:12 AM Re: OT: have to love these battle scenes... [Re: ArisFuser]  
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'Something worth watching with some popcorn...' ??? Maybe with about a pint of whiskey already down the hatch! lol

#4398143 - 01/03/18 07:51 PM Re: OT: have to love these battle scenes... [Re: Lausbub78]  
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I liked the look of airplanes in all those scenes. They did put a good effort into them.

Originally Posted by Lausbub78
The only thing they got right, was to show that most of those Pilots where young men.

Yes, though Werner Voss who was 20 is played by Til Schweiger who was 43 at the moment of filming.


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#4398151 - 01/03/18 09:15 PM Re: OT: have to love these battle scenes... [Re: ArisFuser]  
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Hah,that's is true. But it could have been far worse,I've seen a movie about von Richthofen where Boelke was a man in the late 40's or even 50's. And the rest of the Circus was like mid 40's

#4398164 - 01/03/18 11:09 PM Re: OT: have to love these battle scenes... [Re: ArisFuser]  
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Just my 2 cents : I support any effort towards WWI, Airplanes and Cowboy films. I have sat thru them all and brought the DVD;s. The only sad part that I know of is the things that they could have done. Imagine GCI ( CGI ? ) slowed down to the proper a/c speed and capabilities. Or the use of all the a/c mock ups or The Correct Story lines for The Baron or Blue Max. Maybe Morer Wild West friendly like film Tombstone that pushes all the Wild West Hoo Ha ! Not necessarily , the Real Truth ( Johnny Ringo meeting Doc Holiday in the Saloon scene ) or maybe Non-stereotype enemy pilots than the Hollywood Hardcore German Airman Type in Tuskegee Airmen film. Oh well, the might have been !

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#4398347 - 01/05/18 02:45 AM Re: OT: have to love these battle scenes... [Re: ArisFuser]  
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I'll have to agree. Maybe someone's interest will be captured enough so that the interested party will research and discover the amazing history of World War I in the air! Then buy WOFF UE!

#4398576 - 01/06/18 06:19 PM Re: OT: have to love these battle scenes... [Re: ArisFuser]  
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What about 'Lanoe Hawker' - depicted as an overweight screaming bearded psycho, flying an SE5 with the fuselage marking of a French Spad 13 Escadrille!!


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#4398598 - 01/06/18 08:49 PM Re: OT: have to love these battle scenes... [Re: ArisFuser]  
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Sorry to say that but I do not like such Holywood nonsenses nope I was able to watch this movie for 5 minutes at all.

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#4398637 - 01/07/18 01:07 AM Re: OT: have to love these battle scenes... [Re: ArisFuser]  
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At least this one wasn't Hollywood. It was filmed in Germany.

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#4398661 - 01/07/18 07:39 AM Re: OT: have to love these battle scenes... [Re: Burning_Beard]  
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Originally Posted by Burning_Beard
At least this one wasn't Hollywood. It was filmed in Germany.

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Oh, you are right, Beard!
However, that is even gloomier frown . Germans and such distortion sigh .

#4398678 - 01/07/18 01:06 PM Re: OT: have to love these battle scenes... [Re: ArisFuser]  
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I took the film for what it was... with that mindset I thoroughly enjoyed it.
I was pretty sure from the start and reading reviews that it was not an accurate depiction.

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