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#4402949 - 02/01/18 10:21 PM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: - Ice]  
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LOL, okay then!

48GB at 1.7MB/s.... frown Really? That's with direct download, 1.4MB/s via torrent.


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#4402953 - 02/01/18 10:35 PM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: - Ice]  
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Ice,mine started like that but eventually it hit max (9.4 mb/s). I gave up on the torrent.


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#4402955 - 02/01/18 10:41 PM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: - Ice]  
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I'm the other way around.... the direct download started out strong, then petered out. frown


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#4402965 - 02/01/18 11:36 PM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: - Ice]  
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6 hours download on Virgin Vivo 200 here, 2 hours trying to set up 3 screens in nvidia surround...I give up.

Every time I reinstall this game it beggars belief the level of configuration it takes to get it up and running,hours of trawling forums looking at 7 year old posts to try and find out the line of .lua I need to change, while trying to comprehend why not a single user friendly feature has been implemented over the years.

It's still an utter #%&*$# fest of conflated nerdish config.

...anyway I don't know if it's because of the beta state or something I'm doing wrong on my end, what I do know is a few checkbox's in the GUI would save a ton of frustration, something ED are clearly incapable of grasping.

#4402976 - 02/02/18 12:32 AM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: - Ice]  
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Ok. I’m totally confused.

I have DCS alpha on my PC. I deleted the other yonks ago to play Normandy and Nevada.

So what am I doing here?

Downloading a whole new module?

And what happens then to my activations? I’m thinking about buying a new PC soon and am worried all these various installs and re-installs will wipe the number of activations I have for aircraft (this system is outrageous by the way - surely when u buy the module you should get to keep it).

#4402980 - 02/02/18 01:39 AM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: - Ice]  
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Your activations are in your registry so they will remain untouched regardless of the downloads/updates.

However, if you are going to build/buy a new machine, you will want to deactivate each module on the old machine before installing on the new machine. This will allow you to save an activation for each module.


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#4402984 - 02/02/18 02:49 AM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: - Ice]  
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Well I had high hopes for 2.5. I see no difference in performance from the alpha. Nevada, the empty wasteland, is the only map that has no stutters. As a VR experience DCS is piss poor unless one drops all sliders then the tree pop ins are just rediculous. Like theyre growing right in front of you. Thank you ED and those folk who say the "release" will basicaly be the same as the beta. I have absolutely no doubt now that DCS is a complete waste of time for myself. So many years in development for such a disapointment.


DCS Kickstarter
Wags July 2014 "In this July 2014 update, the primary news is in regards to the restructured backer rewards. After a careful review of the older system under RRG, we found it financially unattainable."
Wags October 2017 "the investment vs. generated revenue has been excellent for the World War II aircraft. In fact, the P-51D Mustang has twice the cost effectiveness of the A-10C Warthog."
#4402988 - 02/02/18 03:25 AM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: cichlidfan]  
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Originally Posted by cichlidfan
Your activations are in your registry so they will remain untouched regardless of the downloads/updates.

However, if you are going to build/buy a new machine, you will want to deactivate each module on the old machine before installing on the new machine. This will allow you to save an activation for each module.



Thanks but am I downloading something completely new? I can’t follow all the various strains of releases any more

#4402989 - 02/02/18 03:32 AM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: - Ice]  
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You could update the alpha to the new beta through the command line. Or you could download the new stand alone beta 2.5 from the downloads page at Dcs website. It is "something completely new" however as you have the alpha it will transfer data from your alpha to the beta directory so your download will be smaller but still take hours to complete. I didnt have to re activate anything.
Sorry it wont transfer data it will copy the data from alpha to beta.

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DCS Kickstarter
Wags July 2014 "In this July 2014 update, the primary news is in regards to the restructured backer rewards. After a careful review of the older system under RRG, we found it financially unattainable."
Wags October 2017 "the investment vs. generated revenue has been excellent for the World War II aircraft. In fact, the P-51D Mustang has twice the cost effectiveness of the A-10C Warthog."
#4402999 - 02/02/18 05:35 AM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: - Ice]  
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And so I don’t have to go through all this rubbish again, will this new download become the standard release version in a few weeks time?

#4403001 - 02/02/18 06:28 AM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: Johnny_Redd]  
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Originally Posted by Johnny_Redd
Well I had high hopes for 2.5. I see no difference in performance from the alpha. Nevada, the empty wasteland, is the only map that has no stutters. As a VR experience DCS is piss poor unless one drops all sliders then the tree pop ins are just rediculous. Like theyre growing right in front of you. Thank you ED and those folk who say the "release" will basicaly be the same as the beta. I have absolutely no doubt now that DCS is a complete waste of time for myself. So many years in development for such a disapointment.


Try setting the slider to 100% and then set object shadow to Flat, no popups for me and by doing so I gained ~15 FPS with my GTX 980.


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>> It's all about teamwork! <<
#4403035 - 02/02/18 02:33 PM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: Bumfluff]  
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That i dont know. I would assume you'd have to download the 2.5 "release" and it would transfer data from your alpha/beta to the "release". But once you get your new PC you'd have to do it all again


DCS Kickstarter
Wags July 2014 "In this July 2014 update, the primary news is in regards to the restructured backer rewards. After a careful review of the older system under RRG, we found it financially unattainable."
Wags October 2017 "the investment vs. generated revenue has been excellent for the World War II aircraft. In fact, the P-51D Mustang has twice the cost effectiveness of the A-10C Warthog."
#4403037 - 02/02/18 02:48 PM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: KeyCat]  
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Originally Posted by KeyCat
Originally Posted by Johnny_Redd
Well I had high hopes for 2.5. I see no difference in performance from the alpha. Nevada, the empty wasteland, is the only map that has no stutters. As a VR experience DCS is piss poor unless one drops all sliders then the tree pop ins are just rediculous. Like theyre growing right in front of you. Thank you ED and those folk who say the "release" will basicaly be the same as the beta. I have absolutely no doubt now that DCS is a complete waste of time for myself. So many years in development for such a disapointment.


Try setting the slider to 100% and then set object shadow to Flat, no popups for me and by doing so I gained ~15 FPS with my GTX 980.


I have my shadows on flat. I have a 1080ti i have a 4.6 cpu. BoS looks increadable in VR. Its smooth as silk at a constant 90fps. DCS just hasn't got it right. Sure it looks good on a flat monitor, performance is good on a flat monitor but VR is the future. Judging by EDs track record it will take them a decade at least to get VR acceptable for me. After so many years in development its so disappointing. Thanks for the suggestion but I will uninstall and once its possible i will gift all my modules. I will forget all about this platform. To frustrating and too disappointing.


DCS Kickstarter
Wags July 2014 "In this July 2014 update, the primary news is in regards to the restructured backer rewards. After a careful review of the older system under RRG, we found it financially unattainable."
Wags October 2017 "the investment vs. generated revenue has been excellent for the World War II aircraft. In fact, the P-51D Mustang has twice the cost effectiveness of the A-10C Warthog."
#4403042 - 02/02/18 03:03 PM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: - Ice]  
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Real rage quit biggrin

Just play something else until performance bug’s are ironed out.

I get quite good performance with my rig(in sig)

smile


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#4403046 - 02/02/18 03:16 PM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: Haukka81]  
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Originally Posted by Haukka81
Real rage quit biggrin

Just play something else until performance bug’s are ironed out.

I get quite good performance with my rig(in sig)

smile


Also, if you insist on VR being perfect, that is your own self-imposed limitation. I still enjoy flying on my 4k monitor.


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#4403049 - 02/02/18 03:19 PM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: - Ice]  
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Yeah ok call it rage quit. Whatever man.
Performance bugs? Throw them on the to-do pile of other bugs. I'll play something else. I'll free up multiple GB on my hard drive.
Im not playing on your PC so.... what does your performance have to do with me? You may be happy with a shimmering, jaggy stutter fest i am not. Can you grasp that? I hope they do "iron out" the performance bugs for everybody who purchased anything for DCS. I hop y'all have fun


DCS Kickstarter
Wags July 2014 "In this July 2014 update, the primary news is in regards to the restructured backer rewards. After a careful review of the older system under RRG, we found it financially unattainable."
Wags October 2017 "the investment vs. generated revenue has been excellent for the World War II aircraft. In fact, the P-51D Mustang has twice the cost effectiveness of the A-10C Warthog."
#4403054 - 02/02/18 03:23 PM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: cichlidfan]  
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Originally Posted by cichlidfan
Originally Posted by Haukka81
Real rage quit biggrin

Just play something else until performance bug’s are ironed out.

I get quite good performance with my rig(in sig)

smile


Also, if you insist on VR being perfect, that is your own self-imposed limitation. I still enjoy flying on my 4k monitor.

Yes it is my self imposed limitations. Thats how i want my experience to be. Why do you make it sound like a bad thing? Its my choice. BoS offers that experience. DCS does not so far.


DCS Kickstarter
Wags July 2014 "In this July 2014 update, the primary news is in regards to the restructured backer rewards. After a careful review of the older system under RRG, we found it financially unattainable."
Wags October 2017 "the investment vs. generated revenue has been excellent for the World War II aircraft. In fact, the P-51D Mustang has twice the cost effectiveness of the A-10C Warthog."
#4403073 - 02/02/18 05:17 PM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: Johnny_Redd]  
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Originally Posted by Johnny_Redd

I have my shadows on flat. I have a 1080ti i have a 4.6 cpu. BoS looks increadable in VR. Its smooth as silk at a constant 90fps. DCS just hasn't got it right. Sure it looks good on a flat monitor, performance is good on a flat monitor but VR is the future. Judging by EDs track record it will take them a decade at least to get VR acceptable for me. After so many years in development its so disappointing. Thanks for the suggestion but I will uninstall and once its possible i will gift all my modules. I will forget all about this platform. To frustrating and too disappointing.


Sorry, I totally missed the VR part. My bad smile


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#4403076 - 02/02/18 05:35 PM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: Johnny_Redd]  
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Originally Posted by Johnny_Redd
Thanks for the suggestion but I will uninstall and once its possible i will gift all my modules.

You may have to wait for years for the ability to gift modules again smile


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#4403080 - 02/02/18 06:19 PM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: - Ice]  
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Originally Posted by - Ice
Originally Posted by Johnny_Redd
Thanks for the suggestion but I will uninstall and once its possible i will gift all my modules.

You may have to wait for years for the ability to gift modules again smile

Well they're all deactivated. They all have 9 activation's remaining. They will sit gathering dust but not on my hard drive. Maybe when the p47 and 262 are released and the "Copy of any Eagle Dynamics developed DCS product" are available ED may get around to customer support and I can give them away. Until then adios amigos.


DCS Kickstarter
Wags July 2014 "In this July 2014 update, the primary news is in regards to the restructured backer rewards. After a careful review of the older system under RRG, we found it financially unattainable."
Wags October 2017 "the investment vs. generated revenue has been excellent for the World War II aircraft. In fact, the P-51D Mustang has twice the cost effectiveness of the A-10C Warthog."
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