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#4395140 - 12/16/17 05:15 PM 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!!  
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Dear all,

Work is going well with the updated Caucasus map and the summer map is ready to go! However, there is still work to do on the Spring, Autumn, and Winter maps. Much of this revolves around integration of the new SpeedTree tech. This is a rather time consuming process and not a case of just dropping in new tech.

Additionally, a lot of work continues on updating the hundreds of missions and campaigns that need to be adjusted for the map changes. This primarily entails moving units and their routes out of the many new forested areas on the map.

Finally, we have the holiday season fast approaching and we need to give our staff time with the loved ones.

Given this, we will be releasing DCS World 2.5 by late-January 2018. This is not an estimate, this is a promise.

In order to avoid confusion and any update issues, DCS World 2.5 will be released as a new download. The current Open Beta will be updated to DCS World 2.5, the Open Alpha will be removed, and DCS World 1.5 will remain but be unsupported.

Movement of DCS World 2.5 would then soon follow to Steam.

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Matt “Wags” Wagner
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Anyone taking bets on this? biggrin biggrin biggrin

So will 2.5 be released with only Summer map available? And no compatibility with currently-released missions and campaigns? I don't see them doing Spring/Autumn/Winter plus mission/campaign fix in 6.5 weeks with maybe a week or so of holiday time in there, so maybe 5.5 weeks?

The skeptical part of me says they won't hit this release date.... or if they do, it'll be barebones.


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#4395149 - 12/16/17 05:57 PM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: - Ice]  
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Said by "everything is subject to change" Wags.
Think I will hold my expectations until I see it on my SSD.

#4395160 - 12/16/17 06:45 PM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: - Ice]  
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Additionally, a lot of work continues on updating the hundreds of missions and campaigns that need to be adjusted for the map changes. This primarily entails moving units and their routes out of the many new forested areas on the map.


Who would have thought!

Perhaps if they had focused on the 2.5 build in late 2015 it would have been completed without wasting all those funds and resources......only for them to have to re-tread over all this ground again. The same old faces argued this wouldn't be the case but it was highlighted on these forums many times. Their greed in trying to get funds by putting so much effort into supporting payware campaigns has just taken a massive hit.....but no surprise they couldn't see this coming. Four working weeks also seems quite tight given the amount of work identified as incomplete. At the same time, ED's 'promise' counts for nothing.


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#4395217 - 12/17/17 01:28 AM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: - Ice]  
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I can't wait for NTTR to be released.

#4395277 - 12/17/17 11:03 AM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: - Ice]  
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Lols, the tear jerking letter from the bottom of Wags "heart" stated coming weeks
when it should have stated coming months

Bet it will still be late



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#4395397 - 12/18/17 05:10 AM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: - Ice]  
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Just to clarify because I’m totally confused.

Does this mean all betas alphas or what the #%&*$# Evers will all be united into one simple edition?

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Originally Posted by Bumfluff
Just to clarify because I’m totally confused.

Does this mean all betas alphas or what the #%&*$# Evers will all be united into one simple edition?



In order to avoid confusion and any update issues, DCS World 2.5 will be released as a new download. The current Open Beta will be updated to DCS World 2.5, the Open Alpha will be removed, and DCS World 1.5 will remain but be unsupported.



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#4395407 - 12/18/17 08:50 AM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: - Ice]  
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So the beta simply be updated to become the actual proper game?

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There will just be one supported branch which will be 2.5.... 1.5 will still be available but will be abandoned.


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#4395531 - 12/18/17 11:35 PM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: - Ice]  
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Originally Posted by Wagster
Given this, we will be releasing DCS World 2.5 by late-January 2018. This is not an estimate, this is a promise.


Yeah, sure. I'll believe it when I see it.

#4395536 - 12/18/17 11:56 PM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: - Ice]  
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Yeah.... someone on another forum just tried saying that plans don't mean anything whereas a promise is a different thing and you can count on a promise... banghead


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#4395680 - 12/19/17 05:23 PM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: - Ice]  
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I actually think they will make this date. I can't recall ED ever using the word "promise" when it comes to release times. They're usually very vague to keep expectations low.


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#4395743 - 12/19/17 09:36 PM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: - Ice]  
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I also think they'll make the release......but it will simply be pushed out at whatever state it's in and totally unfinished with the other seasons, lighting and patches that will follow whenever they are ready.

The last statement by Wags was just a pre-cursor to the disclaimer that will come with it on release. It's obviously still.going to be a beta with a '2.5' prefix and the Hornet will supplement it nicely with all the unfinished content that comes with that module too. I'm tempted to plump for the Xplane 11 version of the F18.....there's probably more combat in it anyway wink


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#4395746 - 12/19/17 09:44 PM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: - Ice]  
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Originally Posted by - Ice
The skeptical part of me says they won't hit this release date.... or if they do, it'll be barebones.

They've no qualms releasing Hornet with most of the interesting stuff missing, I'm sure they'll have no qualms doing the same with "2.5"

I was tempted by the Collimata F-18... carrier ops, the latest version of XP allowing weapons again, but most of the switches are INOP and the videos I've found have failed to impress.....


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#4397318 - 12/29/17 02:38 PM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: - Ice]  
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Being late to the DCS party...what is the version history as of late? I got DCS on Steam and it is currently 1.5.8. What is this alpha and beta you speak of? And what does it mean for me when it goes to 2.5? What will work, what won't, what do I need to do to get things to work?

Also I noticed snooping around the file folders that there is a Nevada Test Range on my hard drive. I can't get it to work. Is this some beta or alpha, or is it only operable when you buy NTTR from Steam via DRM or something?

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#4397362 - 12/29/17 08:59 PM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: - Ice]  
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I would suggest that you just wait for 2.5 release at the end of January 2018 which is sure to come because it's not an estimate, it's a promise!! smile

NTTR is an extra map that you can get by either buying it or for free if you pre-ordered DCS A10C . Depending on how old your Nevada files are, you may either own NTTR or you played with DCS A10C Beta 2 or Beta 3 when Nevada was available to fly in.... either way, you should beable to play with NTTR.




Speaking of this "it's not an estimate, it's a promise" nonsense (which they repeat again in the newsletter today), is it just me or does this make ED look even more comical?? Since when did companies have to "promise" on product delivery?? Since when is "deadline" not a good-enough word?


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You have to 'promise' something when you've consistently failed to meet your own deadlines over the previous 10 years and your customer base doesn't believe a word you say.


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Originally Posted by - Ice
I would suggest that you just wait for 2.5 release at the end of January 2018 which is sure to come because it's not an estimate, it's a promise!! smile

NTTR is an extra map that you can get by either buying it or for free if you pre-ordered DCS A10C . Depending on how old your Nevada files are, you may either own NTTR or you played with DCS A10C Beta 2 or Beta 3 when Nevada was available to fly in.... either way, you should beable to play with NTTR


OK, I didn't pre-order A-10 and I didn't buy NTTR. SO why do I have it? In case it is activated? I also have Normandy, but the same way...It's on my hard drive but I can't get it to work. What did you mean I should be able to play with NTTR?

Also, I tried to PM you but I can't...wanted to ask you some questions since to me you are a DCS guru.

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#4397482 - 12/30/17 05:34 PM Re: 2..5 Release Date ANNOUNCED!! [Re: - Ice]  
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NTTR and Normandy are for DCS 2.x, currently 2.2, and as you have 1.5.8 installed, the maps are useless.
As Ice noted, you can wait for 2.5 (end of January) and upgrade your 1.5.8 for free.
If you then want the NTTR/Normandy maps, you have to buy a key/serial number.

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Originally Posted by bones
OK, I didn't pre-order A-10 and I didn't buy NTTR. SO why do I have it? In case it is activated? I also have Normandy, but the same way...It's on my hard drive but I can't get it to work. What did you mean I should be able to play with NTTR?

You can play with NTTR either by buying the map module or if you pre-ordered DCS A10C before Dec 2010 or Feb 2011 IIRC. I assumed you have done either one as you've said you had files on your HDD. If you hadn't and still have the files, I don't really know why they'd be there. Maybe just small tidbits of files so that these modules show up on your DCS menu? I'm not exactly sure as you've not stated what files or folders you have.

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Also, I tried to PM you but I can't...wanted to ask you some questions since to me you are a DCS guru.

Haha!! Thanks for the nice words but I am in no way a "guru." I am simply a critical DCS fan smile I've sent you a PM so feel free to respond to that or if you wish, do post here on the forums as there are more people that have more current DCS experience than I do smile



Originally Posted by Paradaz
You have to 'promise' something when you've consistently failed to meet your own deadlines over the previous 10 years and your customer base doesn't believe a word you say.

Indeed! They've worn out their credibility and reputation that they now have to use words not normally used in this area. If they ever start talking about target dates again, I hope people start asking them "is that an estimate or is that a promise?" biggrin biggrin biggrin


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