Pew pew pew!

Zoom!

Da da da dada da dada da

Explosions!

Space, the final fr*boom*

All in all I really enjoyed it

So, more on towards real spoiler discussions..

I'm pretty sure several fans will find some of the movie has parallells to ESB and ROTJ in certain parts (espesially the ones who thought TFA was a carbon copy of ANH).

The movie had the same focus as TFA - Poe, Ray and Finn is primary characters, with at least one new sidekick (Pearl).

Action is mostly split between Ray and Finn with Poe also getting some prime time.

Great stuff includes: Yoda(!), space battles! Awesome Luke fight, Bombers!

Will wait for Christmas day to go see it with the wife and son if he don`t have to work. Looking forward it.

Now its Snoke??Dead story arc?
Thoroughly enjoyed it.Epic battles,good seeing big lightsabre battles again..Big ATAT,s were a bit shallow and had no depth was my only gripe..Big stompy things shoot a lot,no real presence in the shot I thought..

I really enjoyed this! Very eventful, it could’ve almost been written to be two shorter movies if they’d wanted to. I’m glad they didn’t of course, this was much better.
The only spoiler I’ll mention: Phasma continues to be a shiny armor of FAIL and wasted opportunity. LOL
Nice twists and developments. Looking forward to where they go from here. Seems like a lot more to come than one movie inthis timeline.
Pulled off some humor too, unlike Justice League.

It was awesome.
I know some people disliked it, but it definitely worked for me.
The transitions between scenes were very smooth, and I actually felt that the character development worked very well.
There were some problems, like laser blasts following a ballistic path in space (what?), but they didn't block my enjoyment.

weak offering imo. I did like the snoke-rey-ben scene but it lost all its momentum after that. Also, who the hell put Effie Trinket as second in command of the rebels?

It bothered me that the transports could not perform even basic evasive maneuvers once they came under fire. I do understand, though, that it was to service the story.

That bothered me too. But realism in Star Wars space combat has never been a thing. Damage resistance and agility and weapon ranges are all dictated by the needs of the plot. Which works to create a fun story, but causes geeks like us to go 'but....'.

There are some plotholes or things I'd have done different.
If they knew they could take out the Dreadnaught like they did, why wasn't that the plan to begin with? Why couldn't a ship like that be set on autopilot instead of someone staying on board? Or have a droid do it?
Also, as close as the ships where in pursuit, I don't see why they the tie fighters couldn't stay in the fight. They were WITHIN SIGHT. Even if the First Order ships have nothing but a Cuisinart for an engine, they were keeping up even if not overtaking. The Tie's could've stayed out and finished it all early on.
Luke can take an X-Wing all over the universe, but apparently Tie's are only good for a few minutes of flight time. How did that one get so far out in ANH where Han and everyone saw it so far out from the Death Star? That was further than these would've had to go to attack.
The Rebels can actually LEAVE the whole thing behind to go find help and they've got plenty of fuel to go and come back. WTF?

And why was it there was ONE specific hacker that could do the job, they found the guy wearing the flower thing, but then just happen to land in jail with another one who could do the job just fine? They should've just had them not find the guy and run into him in jail instead. Convenient, but better than the way it went.

Still, there are always things to pick apart in movies. It was still excellent.
I doubt Snoke is over, or he shouldn't be. They never confirmed who he was and how he related to the Emperor and Vader. We assume he was Plagueis who defeated death. Could explain his appearance, old injuries that should've killed him. He could come back again.

He did have like Darth Sidious/Emporer Palpatine..

IMHO, the best written of all the Star Wars movies, though New Hope will remain my favorite.

First, the great:

As much as Disney said they were trashing the Expanded Universe of Star Wars, they sure do like dipping into it. Kylo didn't kill Snoke because of some conflict or other. Snoke was dead on the money; Kylo was pure Sith right then, using a moment of distraction and power to kill the master and take his place. Darth Bane would have been proud. That he then tried to get Rey to be his apprentice was lore perfect.

Pew Pew Pew, zzrrrruuummm zzrrrruuummm,* and the whoosh of fighters.

A Wing! Absolutely zero reason why an obsolete A Wing would be out there, but why not? We have one laying about and the young chick has the moxie to pilot it. Rather like having a Zero flying cover over Iraq or Afghanistan...or Eastern Europe against the Soviets Russians. Highly pissed she got killed in the hangar later; of all the squadron pilots they showed, I would really like to have had her stick around - what a gold mine of possibilities.

Solid dialog writing all around. I think Carrie Fisher actually struggled with competent material to work with after making the doozies handed to her in the OrigTrig sound good.

Second, the good:

Cutesy cute crap held to a minimum. Yes, there were the little penguin whatevers, but that was it, and they were just window dressing.

Keeping the throwback stuff muted. We all got the references, but they weren't hamfisted like they were in the last one. I did snort in laughter on the planet where the guy tastes the white stuff and spits it out, noting it's salt. He didn't have to say "snow." They CGI'd Yoda to look like the puppet, not the later CGI Yoda, which was interesting and amusing.

The pacing (except for one part) was solid. Even the eye-rolling exposition that is inherent to the Star Wars franchise was kept moving along. I won't be using the fast forward a lot when I get the BluRay of this.

Third, the not so good:

Typical Star Wars convoluted plot turns. Of course Fin and Maintenance Chick have to go to a casino world to get a hacker and be back in six hours, which would include the Running Of The Alien Bulls, because...Star Wars. I did like how their plan not only failed, but backfired, though.

Unsolved plot holes/breaks in canon: C'mon, I pretty much guessed they were tracking the Rebel Fleet through the Rey Signal, but it's only a guess. Also, they need to send droids in person to deliver messages, but not if the story requires them to call people who are in the middle of a firefight halfway across the galaxy...and that person's phone follows them around, keeping them in frame. In a firefight.

The ending. Holy crap, they dragged out the end of the movie way too long. Hey, we all escaped and are together...pose for the family portrait and....what? No credits? Now we're jumping to something else? Okay. Bad guys. Now we can do the sudden jump to credits...wait, what? The little goat kid** on the casino planet? Why? Oh, he's a force user. And he has the rebel ring. And they end at that. It was jarring and left on the wrong note, IMHO.



* That's the sound of a light saber.

** They had a kid in with each of the Space Bulls, much in the same way as they put goats in with race horses' stalls to keep them calm overnight before a race. Trivia of the day - a common dirty trick was to steal the goat in an effort to throw the horse off and increase one's odds against it, and it's from here we get the phrase "he really gets my goat," meaning both a person that is the source of one's anger and that one is agitated unnecessarily.

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[Nerd] Plagueis was killed by Sidious. He was close to understanding how to manipulate midiclorians to prolong his life, but never made it. [/Nerd]

Yoda was a puppet again, a brilliant move! The cgi NEVER looked good. I like that they go back to practical effects in these movies and a little bit less cgi.

It's nice that they'r'e showing Poe maturing into a leader rather than hero type. In the original movies, they just dropped Han and Lando in high positions. I guess they just needed people that were looked up to. You had to just understand that time and events passed between the movies justifying it.

The casino planet was the worst part BUT I always like it when they show what the rest of the galaxy looks like. It's not like everyone's fighting this war on one side or the other. Life actually does go on.

I didn't think much about the A Wings, but you're right, and the B Wings seemed new. Could be them trying to show that the rebellion is not only fractured but running out of resources, having to bring some things out of mothballs.

This is also the first time we saw a real change in Sith leadership, bringing in the new generation of the same conflict 1000's of years old. We saw the old Sith taken out and replaced by the new one. Sure, Vader did it, but he didn't live to take over. It just opened the door for Snoke to explose himself and run things. He may have been in charge the whole time, since before Phantom Menace even. Then cue up the force using stable boy, the Jedi side starts again too. The cycle keeps on going.

I like that although Kylo benefited by taking over, everyone lost in this one. The First Order still exists, with new mgmt, and the rebellion survived, holding them off, but really they all just lost and went back to their corners.

A-wing obsolete?

Heretic! It's superior to the X-Wing!

Never liked them! LOL
However, I wish they'd had some Y Wings in there. A few ion torpedoes leading the way and that bombing run would've been a lot less costly!
How convenient of the FO to have a big circular target for the soft spot. Again. LOL
I suppose that was a door for launching fighters or maybe just the freight elevator? Camouflage people! They never learn.

What's funny is that both my wife and son missed that the little boy was using the force at the end.

It was easy to miss, I almost did.
It makes sense to show that the Force is still out there in people. Even when the Jedi and Sith were at their peak they couldn’t have found everyone sensitive to it. For an entire generation there have been those with it born and not getting trained by either faction. I’d LOVE to see that a new group has sprung up over these years (or always existed quietly, not ambitious?) to practice and train these people and that they don’t want ANYTHING to do with either Jedi or Sith, seeing that their war never ends. Let them stay neutral. More of a guild in RPG terms, they keep quiet and to themselves, but members may have their own designs.
We need to see more other factions along with the rest of the galaxy. Fewer backwater planets, more Mandalorians and others.

I didn't enjoy it but not because of the movie so much, it was that we saw it in 3D so pretty much the whole movie is blurry for the sake of cheesy effects. Look forward to seeing it 3D free, I can't complain though my older brother bought the tickets. My wife fell asleep 3/4 through but she's not really a fan nor has she seen the all the movies and I echo her sentiment that the movie was a bit long and drawn out.

The Force is always in balance is what Luke has been trying to convey to Rey..Makes sense for others to be with the Force..Even Wedge Antillies was Force sensitive.Its a choice,let it go to the light or to the dark..

I steer away from 3D for that very reason...even when it's not blurry, it's...weird. Maybe it's the fact that I wear progressive lenses.