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#4391150 - 11/24/17 01:35 PM GeForce GTX 1060 Owners  
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Hi Gents!

Hope all is well with you and yours. For my fellow Americans, I hope you had a splendid Thanksgiving and you are recovering from the over-eating yesterday!

I am writing with a question for anyone who uses an nVidia 1060 graphics card. I'm considering upgrading the 745gtx that my Dell shipped with. The system has a 460w power supply and checking the card specs here: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/10series/geforce-gtx-1060/ I notice that the 1060 only needs a 400w power supply. The price is almost doable for me - student loan payments begin next month...

My question is what your experience with this card is. How do your modern games run on it, and more importantly, how does WOFF run on it? Do you get any stutters? Does the graphics engine in WOFF seem to play well with this card? Many thanks for your feedback!

Cheers!

#4391161 - 11/24/17 02:28 PM Re: GeForce GTX 1060 Owners [Re: CaptSopwith]  
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Cap'n;

I don't know if you are running a G-sync monitor but if so, you may benefit from current and future responses to the following thread:

thread on G-sync monitors


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Vid Card: ASUS GTX 980Ti STRIX 6GB
OS and Games on separate: Samsung 840 Series 250GB SSD
Monitor: Primary ASUS PG27AQ 4k; Secondary Samsung SyncMaster BX2450L
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#4391163 - 11/24/17 02:47 PM Re: GeForce GTX 1060 Owners [Re: CaptSopwith]  
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This is where I always start when I'm trying to determine the value of a GPU upgrade.

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#4391170 - 11/24/17 03:36 PM Re: GeForce GTX 1060 Owners [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Originally Posted by Robert_Wiggins
Cap'n;

I don't know if you are running a G-sync monitor but if so, you may benefit from current and future responses to the following thread:

thread on G-sync monitors



Thanks MajorMagee, I'll take a look at their video card tables.

Robert, I don't even know what that is... I'm running on a 9 year old Gateway monitor with a 1680x1050 resolution and some wonky colors... it was a leftover from my previous system. I didn't have the budget for both a new tower and monitor. Does G-Sync offer vsync through the hardware?

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#4391171 - 11/24/17 03:58 PM Re: GeForce GTX 1060 Owners [Re: CaptSopwith]  
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Originally Posted by CaptSopwith
Originally Posted by Robert_Wiggins
Cap'n;

I don't know if you are running a G-sync monitor but if so, you may benefit from current and future responses to the following thread:

thread on G-sync monitors



Thanks MajorMagee, I'll take a look at their video card tables.

Robert, I don't even know what that is... I'm running on a 9 year old Gateway monitor with a 1680x1050 resolution and some wonky colors... it was a leftover from my previous system. I didn't have the budget for both a new tower and monitor. Does G-Sync offer vsync through the hardware?


G-Sync will cost a few pennies but since you don't currently have one, the Nvidia card you purchase is one that you should buy with intention down the road. Just make sure it is G-Sync compliant for the future.
To keep it simple, the following explains G-Sync approach:

Q: How does G-SYNC work?

A: Several years in the making, G-SYNC technology synchronizes the display’s refresh to the GPU’s render rate, so images display the moment they’re rendered. The result: Scenes appear instantly. Objects are sharper. Game play is smoother.

Since their earliest days, displays have had fixed refresh rates – typically 60 times a second (Hertz). But due to the dynamic nature of PC games, GPUs render frames at varying rates. As the GPU seeks to synchronize with the display, persistent tearing occurs. Turning on V-SYNC (or Vertical-SYNC) can eliminate tearing but causes increased latency and stutter.

G-SYNC eliminates this tradeoff, perfectly syncing the display to the GPU, regardless of frame rate, leading to uncompromised PC gaming experiences.

Cheers mate.


(System_Specs)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Trooper
Pwr Sup: OCZ, GameXStream,1000-Watt
MB: Asus Maximus VI Extreme
Mem: Corsair Vengeance (2x 8GB), PC3-12800, DDR3-1600MHz, Unbuffered
CPU: Intel i7-4770K, OC to 4.427Ghz
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 240M Liquid CPU Cooler
Vid Card: ASUS GTX 980Ti STRIX 6GB
OS and Games on separate: Samsung 840 Series 250GB SSD
Monitor: Primary ASUS PG27AQ 4k; Secondary Samsung SyncMaster BX2450L
Periphs: MS Sidewinder FFB2 Pro, TrackIR 4

#4391186 - 11/24/17 05:03 PM Re: GeForce GTX 1060 Owners [Re: CaptSopwith]  
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I had/have a GTX 750gtx (4GB) and moved up into the 1060 but only with 3GB.
To the eye there's not much diff, but the AA and such is faster. It also increased my FPS quite a bit, but atill strugle in 1918 Flanders. (Could be the CPU though)
This could also be a CFS3 thing too.

But for IL2 and other games it runs great and quite cool as well. Although its only 3GB I 've yet to see any stutters outside of WOFF.

Last edited by lederhosen; 11/24/17 05:05 PM.

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#4391197 - 11/24/17 05:51 PM Re: GeForce GTX 1060 Owners [Re: CaptSopwith]  
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I am quite happy with 6gb 1060 in WoFF; running 8x ingame antialiasing + 8x SGSSAA through Nvidia Inspector. Performance and image quality with AMD's 8gb RX 480 in WoFF and CFS3 was much worse.

#4391208 - 11/24/17 07:02 PM Re: GeForce GTX 1060 Owners [Re: Dornil]  
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Originally Posted by Dornil
I am quite happy with 6gb 1060 in WoFF; running 8x ingame antialiasing + 8x SGSSAA through Nvidia Inspector. Performance and image quality with AMD's 8gb RX 480 in WoFF and CFS3 was much worse.


Would you be willing to share your inspector profile with us?

I for one would like to compare it.


(System_Specs)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Trooper
Pwr Sup: OCZ, GameXStream,1000-Watt
MB: Asus Maximus VI Extreme
Mem: Corsair Vengeance (2x 8GB), PC3-12800, DDR3-1600MHz, Unbuffered
CPU: Intel i7-4770K, OC to 4.427Ghz
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 240M Liquid CPU Cooler
Vid Card: ASUS GTX 980Ti STRIX 6GB
OS and Games on separate: Samsung 840 Series 250GB SSD
Monitor: Primary ASUS PG27AQ 4k; Secondary Samsung SyncMaster BX2450L
Periphs: MS Sidewinder FFB2 Pro, TrackIR 4

#4391277 - 11/25/17 02:05 AM Re: GeForce GTX 1060 Owners [Re: CaptSopwith]  
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I am playing with ASUS STRIX Gaming GTX 1060 with 6 GB, it is a expensive Card (400 Euro), but all is running well. I am using a different kind of AA, called DOWNSAMPLING, I have a normal FULL HD Monitor with Resolution 1920 x 1080, but the Game is running with 3840 x 2160 via NVIDIA Control Panel, you don't need to use any AA in Game or with NVIDIA Inspector. I have VSync ON, Pre-rendered Frames on 1, and after a long time of testing and trying, I've found out that these Settings are the best for my System, with great Performance, although I have some stutters in Flanders 1918 too, but I am working on it to get it more smooth and liquid. All other Games (RoF and IL2) are running very good, with both I've had the most Increase in Performance, the Games are running perfect even with highest Settings.
Absolutely worth to buy it.

#4391284 - 11/25/17 03:11 AM Re: GeForce GTX 1060 Owners [Re: CaptSopwith]  
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I'm running an Nvidia 980 Ti, and it works great.
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#4391353 - 11/25/17 08:25 PM Re: GeForce GTX 1060 Owners [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Sure, my profile is attached. To use change extension from .txt to .nip and open in NVInspector. Important note: ingame antialiasing should be set to 8x as well. They say that SGSSAA works properly only in combination with the same number of MSAA.

P.S.: Downsampling is not an option for me, because I still use 1280x1024 monitor, and downsampling doesn't work with this aspect ratio. But I am fully satisfied with SGSSAA.

Attached Files
WoFF.txt (20 downloads)
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#4391414 - 11/26/17 03:53 AM Re: GeForce GTX 1060 Owners [Re: CaptSopwith]  
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How can I use this Profile? I do not understand. What is a .nip Extension?
Please explain it correctly so People can use it.

#4391432 - 11/26/17 08:01 AM Re: GeForce GTX 1060 Owners [Re: Andy73]  
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Originally Posted by Andy73
How can I use this Profile? I do not understand. What is a .nip Extension?
Please explain it correctly so People can use it.


It is only useful if you run Nvidia Inspector. . Do you?


(System_Specs)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Trooper
Pwr Sup: OCZ, GameXStream,1000-Watt
MB: Asus Maximus VI Extreme
Mem: Corsair Vengeance (2x 8GB), PC3-12800, DDR3-1600MHz, Unbuffered
CPU: Intel i7-4770K, OC to 4.427Ghz
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 240M Liquid CPU Cooler
Vid Card: ASUS GTX 980Ti STRIX 6GB
OS and Games on separate: Samsung 840 Series 250GB SSD
Monitor: Primary ASUS PG27AQ 4k; Secondary Samsung SyncMaster BX2450L
Periphs: MS Sidewinder FFB2 Pro, TrackIR 4

#4391466 - 11/26/17 02:12 PM Re: GeForce GTX 1060 Owners [Re: CaptSopwith]  
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If you have an NVidia card, you can install a third-party software called "Nvidia Inspector". It allows accessing some of the videodriver setting otherwise unavailable in the default Nividia's configuration app. The one especially usefull is the Sparse Grid Super Sampling AntiAliasing, or SGSSAA, which virtually looks as good as an ordinary Super Sampling, but is much less performance-hungry. There are alot of other parameters to play with as well, and my best settings for WoFF are in the file (WoFF.txt) I uploaded. The original NV Inspector profile file looked like WoFF.nip but I had to rename it into WoFF.txt because forum allows this filetype to be attached. So you just have to rename WoFF.txt back into WoFF.nip and then open it in NVidia Inspector (after you installed NVI itself, of course).

#4391483 - 11/26/17 03:14 PM Re: GeForce GTX 1060 Owners [Re: CaptSopwith]  
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Okay thank you! I always use NVIDIA Inspector, because it is a very good Program!

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#4391512 - 11/26/17 05:47 PM Re: GeForce GTX 1060 Owners [Re: Dornil]  
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Originally Posted by Dornil
Sure, my profile is attached. To use change extension from .txt to .nip and open in NVInspector. Important note: ingame antialiasing should be set to 8x as well. They say that SGSSAA works properly only in combination with the same number of MSAA.

P.S.: Downsampling is not an option for me, because I still use 1280x1024 monitor, and downsampling doesn't work with this aspect ratio. But I am fully satisfied with SGSSAA.


Dornil I have a question for you.
When importing or building a new .nip file, you must assign that profile to the WOFF.exe program. What I would like to know is if you have found a way to implement multiple profiles for the same program without having to unassigned and reassign the program each time you try another profile.

Best Regards

Last edited by Robert_Wiggins; 11/26/17 05:47 PM.

(System_Specs)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Trooper
Pwr Sup: OCZ, GameXStream,1000-Watt
MB: Asus Maximus VI Extreme
Mem: Corsair Vengeance (2x 8GB), PC3-12800, DDR3-1600MHz, Unbuffered
CPU: Intel i7-4770K, OC to 4.427Ghz
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 240M Liquid CPU Cooler
Vid Card: ASUS GTX 980Ti STRIX 6GB
OS and Games on separate: Samsung 840 Series 250GB SSD
Monitor: Primary ASUS PG27AQ 4k; Secondary Samsung SyncMaster BX2450L
Periphs: MS Sidewinder FFB2 Pro, TrackIR 4

#4391515 - 11/26/17 06:10 PM Re: GeForce GTX 1060 Owners [Re: CaptSopwith]  
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Frankly, I do not assign profiles to games at all. I just manually activate the necessary profile before I start the program itself, simply by drag-dropping a profile file onto NVI's desktop icon. It is easier for me that way:)

#4391746 - 11/28/17 02:30 PM Re: GeForce GTX 1060 Owners [Re: CaptSopwith]  
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Thank you very much for the feedback gents! I greatly appreciate it. Now I just need to start saving pennies for the card. Looks like my system has a 460w power supply and the card calls for a 400w setup, so I should be good to go, I think!

Cheers!


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