#4390489 - 11/19/17 07:19 PM
STOP Using All Your Money To Buy Games and Use Some Of It To Invest In Gaming Stocks
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S&P 500 return 1 year to date = 20% Gaming ETF stock symbol GAMR annual return = 50% "The Fund seeks to provide investment results that correspond to the price and yield performance of the EEFund Video Game Tech Index. The Index tracks the performance of the common stock of companies across the globe that are actively engaged in a business activity supporting or utilizing the video gaming industry."Top Holdings Company Symbol % of total net assets YTD Tencent Holdings Ltd. TCTZF 1.04 114.90 BANDAI NAMCO Holdings Inc. NCBDF 1.06 n/a Intel Corp. INTC 1.27 23.05 Microsoft Corp. MSFT 1.4 32.60 NVIDIA Corp. NVDA 1.45 98.01 Sony Corp. SNEJF 1.47 62.71 Apple Inc. AAPL 1.6 46.91 Advanced Micro Devices Inc. AMD 1.64 0.35 Logitech International S.A. LOGI 1.75 43.96 Neowiz Games Corp. NWZGF 2.1 n/a GameStop Corp. Cl A GME 3.75 -35.43 Zynga Inc. Cl A ZNGA 4.2 53.31 Nintendo Co. Ltd. NTDOF 4.21 91.94 Square Enix Holdings Co. Ltd. SQNXF 4.33 n/a Glu Mobile Inc. GLUU 4.36 111.34 Capcom Co. Ltd. CCOEF 4.4 n/a NEXON Co. Ltd. NEXOF 5.08 n/a Electronic Arts Inc. EA 5.16 38.17 Konami Holdings Corp ORD n/a 5.18 n/a Take-Two Interactive Software Inc. TTWO 5.51 139.03 Gree Inc. GREZF 5.72 n/a Ubisoft Entertainment S.A. UBSFF 5.99 n/a Changyou.com Ltd. ADR CYOU 6.02 73.52 Activision Blizzard Inc. ATVI 6.14 77.51 NCsoft Corp. NCSCF 6.38 n/a Current price is around $47.00 per share ....about the same retail price as a good new game. Make some money with this ETF and use some of that money to buy more games. That's called "leveraging" your money. Also ....I'd sit and wait a bit for now until a good market correction comes (it may not be very far off at this point) and buy the stock for even less when it drops
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#4390490 - 11/19/17 07:22 PM
Re: STOP Using All Your Money To Buy Games and Use Some Of It To Invest In Gaming Stocks
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Don’t oversimplify the economic markets. Yes, there should be a correction. But when? You can sit on the sidelines and miss growth if you are waiting for something just because “it’s due”. And on the other hand : https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/17/goldman-sachs-says-2017-was-surprisingly-good.html
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#4390491 - 11/19/17 07:23 PM
Re: STOP Using All Your Money To Buy Games and Use Some Of It To Invest In Gaming Stocks
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You would have to buy the equivalent of quite a few games to make that a worthwhile investment. Btw, I have owned ATVI for many years at a return of around 600%.
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#4390492 - 11/19/17 07:25 PM
Re: STOP Using All Your Money To Buy Games and Use Some Of It To Invest In Gaming Stocks
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I agree with Goldman ....2018 should be a good year for stocks .....however, a correction in December or 1st quarter into 2018 is a real possibility
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#4390494 - 11/19/17 07:28 PM
Re: STOP Using All Your Money To Buy Games and Use Some Of It To Invest In Gaming Stocks
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You would have to buy the equivalent of quite a few games to make that a worthwhile investment. Btw, I have owned ATVI for many years at a return of around 600%. ATVI is also on the top 10 holdings for that ETF but the reason i didn't list that is that not everyone at SimHQ knows enough about stocks to take the risk with an individual company
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#4390497 - 11/19/17 07:42 PM
Re: STOP Using All Your Money To Buy Games and Use Some Of It To Invest In Gaming Stocks
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When is the Steam sale on stocks?
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#4390499 - 11/19/17 07:45 PM
Re: STOP Using All Your Money To Buy Games and Use Some Of It To Invest In Gaming Stocks
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when the correction comes some of the guesses I've seen from people who make a living at it ..... somewhere between S&P 500 index of 2600 & 2640
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#4390512 - 11/19/17 10:32 PM
Re: STOP Using All Your Money To Buy Games and Use Some Of It To Invest In Gaming Stocks
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Silly me. I've been using money for shelter and food!
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#4390517 - 11/20/17 12:49 AM
Re: STOP Using All Your Money To Buy Games and Use Some Of It To Invest In Gaming Stocks
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each of us does what they can with whatever resources we gain along the way
I'm convinced there will always be someone writing about a coming crash in any month of the year
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#4390518 - 11/20/17 12:59 AM
Re: STOP Using All Your Money To Buy Games and Use Some Of It To Invest In Gaming Stocks
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Nah see that's what contrarian investing is all about. When the news is shouting, "Everyone get in quick and buy! The market is on fire!"
-That's when you sell. Take profits, reduce risk, prepare for the laggards final push to the top before it all comes down. Smart money knows that's a sell signal.-
When you see the news saying, "Markets are way too high, the prices are insane. Only an idiot would buy here. We're gonna have a crash."
-That's when you keep buying.-
When you see a little of both, but no more of one than the other, markets are probably going to keep plodding slowly upward. Buy dividends and yield, pepper in some hot names, and keep searching for value in individual company dips.
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#4390534 - 11/20/17 04:05 AM
Re: STOP Using All Your Money To Buy Games and Use Some Of It To Invest In Gaming Stocks
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Nah see that's what contrarian investing is all about. When the news is shouting, "Everyone get in quick and buy! The market is on fire!"
-That's when you sell. Take profits, reduce risk, prepare for the laggards final push to the top before it all comes down. Smart money knows that's a sell signal.-
When you see the news saying, "Markets are way too high, the prices are insane. Only an idiot would buy here. We're gonna have a crash."
-That's when you keep buying.-
When you see a little of both, but no more of one than the other, markets are probably going to keep plodding slowly upward. Buy dividends and yield, pepper in some hot names, and keep searching for value in individual company dips. Sounds like way too much of a headache for me :-P I prefer to burn money away, not particularly on games though. I could get hit hard by a bus tomorrow, or maybe eaten by a crocodile. Cheers, Slug
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#4390549 - 11/20/17 10:55 AM
Re: STOP Using All Your Money To Buy Games and Use Some Of It To Invest In Gaming Stocks
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GE has really been pounded. Lots of issues to work out. But for a long term hold, its golden. Tons of cash, huge company. Long term as in 20 years. Buy it for your kids or grandkids.
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#4390604 - 11/20/17 06:59 PM
Re: STOP Using All Your Money To Buy Games and Use Some Of It To Invest In Gaming Stocks
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On a related note. This article does make a strong case for the micro-transactions. https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/20/gam...wars-game-firms-should-raise-prices.html
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#4390615 - 11/20/17 08:18 PM
Re: STOP Using All Your Money To Buy Games and Use Some Of It To Invest In Gaming Stocks
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CNBC can go #%&*$# itself. They dont even understand the basic concepts involved. EA is falsely extending the hours REQUIRED to play to earn the gear. They didnt CREATE more hours of interesting gameplay they FORCED more hours of boring gameplay in order to frustrate people to buy shortcuts. I will agree that gaming CAN be a very cost effective entertainment method. A 60 dollar game that gives you 60 hours of gameplay is a dollar an hour. But the problem is that EA didnt do that. The SP campaign is only a handful of hours long and full of bugs. it is mostly incomplete. Even the online game doesnt have that much content. They just falsely extended the gameplay by requiring time locked unlocks. This game is everything that is wrong with pay 2 win.
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