Just finished Mass Effect Andromeda......don't know why folks complained so much...I really liked it . I'm now looking for another RPG. I tried the first Witcher and just couldn't get into it. I'm not a fan of close quarters combat, I'm more of a sniper type.

Does anybody have any recommendations. I have played Dragon Age inquisition as well. I am not concerned about cutting edge graphics. I usually set combat to the easiest/casual setting, But I do like a good story line

Have you played Deus Ex: Mankind Divided? I highly recommend it.


Concerning ME: Andromeda, I enjoyed it quite a bit as well even though I felt the main story and the new characters were not as good when compared to the original trilogy.

Looking at some in my own collection, how about Valkyria Chronicles, Divinity or Dishonoured series, South Park, or the more minimalist Cthulhu Saves the World? All good stories (and the last two are immensely funny)

I also noticed that Planescape Torment has been remastered and released on Steam. IIRC that is recognised as one of the greatest RPGs ever, much on the strength of its story-writing.

Borderlands 2 -- Didn't know whether I'd like it or not, seemed sort of odd. And it is. But one of the best games I've played in the past few years. I dumped several hundred hours in it and still play it. Great game.

Dishonored -- Either game

Deus Ex -- Any of Deus Ex, Human Revolution or Mankind DIvided, but the first hasn't held up well visually

STALKER -- Any of the three. Not really an RPG, unless you count gear as a progression. Great mods for it too

Metro series-- Either game. Well not an RPG I suppose,

Witcher 3 -- I know you indicated Witcher isn't your cuppa, but it's seriously the best game I've ever played when you combine all aspects, story, graphics, mechanics, voice acting and so on. Don't miss it.. A masterpiece (I also didn't like Witcher 1, liked Witcher 2 and can't say enough about Witcher 3)

Prey -- Fantastic game with cool mechanics, a great setting and zero gravity bits.

LOL Archie, thought you were going to start a Newfie revolt or a war against Quebec.

best RPG I played recently was Shadowrun and Shadowrun Dragonfall

It would be nice to get a "true" RPG like Skyrim. Mods keep Skyrim fun to pick back up, but there should be more options than just that.
Not the MMO grindfest style junk, and not one like Witcher that just has you playing a specific character. Character creation, open world, social interation etc, not just hack and slash.
Fable was good, if simplistic, but didn't go far enough compared to Elder Scrolls games.

I think most don't remember what an RPG is, which to me, means something along the lines of D&D back in the day. Creating your character to be just what you wanted was half the fun.

I had Witcher 3 sitting around on my hard drive with about 25 minutes of game-play registered since some time in 2015. I kept chalking it up to a bad purchasing decision until about a month ago when I decided to try it again and BAM! Now I'm hooked at only 39 hours into it. I still have a long way to go as it really pays off to build your character's abilities by seeking out side quests, so my progress is pleasantly slow. A very handy feature is that each quest recommends that you attain a certain minimal level to be able to survive - and they ain't kidding!

By the way, and this is neither a reason to get it nor to avoid it, but it has sex in it. It's a good thing I am typing because I can hardly say it out loud without sounding like Beavis or Butthead.

I'm waiting for KC:D - played a ton of the beta, and it is now looking far more polished in the run up to a February release. Sure it still includes a close combat element, but the emphasis is on story and investigation and hitting things with sharp or heavy things is only one way of resolving the plot. (Generally you can find other ways of dealing with things or use other people to hit things on your behalf if the actual fighting is not how you want to advance). The creative director was responsible for Mafia I, and lead programmers engaged on games including OFP and H&D.

Torment Tides Of Numenera if you don't mind a lot of reading.
Divinity Original Sin 2

Fallout 4, assuming you haven't played it already.

Thanks folks I'll check some of these out

Hey Archie, why an RPG specifically? I'm guessing ME:A like the other Mass Effects are really rpg-lite when it comes to upgrades but are more RPG in their story and dialogue mechanics. If it doesn't have to be strictly and rpg but something with a great story, fun combat and maybe a little upgrading then I definitely recommend Dishonored like the others have said. I'm playing it a second time now. I have not really played Dishonored 2 yet as I don't have though I did attempt the demo. I recommend all of the Witcher games too. I was one who could not get into Witcher 1 years ago and tried a couple of times but only about 3 years ago did I finally "get it" and loved it very much. You do have to learn and get acclimatized to the combat style but it is actually quite fun. With a texture mod and the Rise of the White Wolf mod I clocked in over 80 hours in that and loved it. I hope to play it again soon. To me the first Witcher still captures something not altogether missing from the other two but to me it just still looks so good and "feels" so good. I'm also on my third playthrough of Witcher 2. As of today,(and guys I don't know how I ended up doing this) I am approaching 600 hours in Witcher 3 and I haven't even finished Blood and Wine yet. I can't see how folks do most everything including side quests and contracts and treasure hunts and misc. events along with the main campaign and not wrack up more hours than I'm seeing people say they have upon finishing the game. So you might really determine to give one of them a try. Honestly I whole heartedly recommend that you use a game controller for Witcher 2 should you play that one. I use it for W3 as well though I believe the game is beautifully designed around a mouse and keyboard as well.

I can't recommend Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain enough!!! Though it helps and in some cases quite a bit with regards to characters and story, you don't have to be a fan or player of the originals. This takes Metal Gear Solid open world. I have some ultimate disappointments with the game but that has more to do with being and old fan and the way Sony rushed Hideo Kojima at the end of development which unfortunately did influence the game's ability to finish really strong. I'm speaking more of certain design choices and potential cuts that were made. However, that's getting nitpicky and for me, having finished both games with 280+ hours, I give both games as a package a strong 8.5+ out of 10. If they had gotten David Haytor to voice Snake like they should have in my opinion, I'd bump that up to a solid 9 with the remaining one being docked for missed opportunities and Sony rushing the man Kojima. His vision was more and it almost got there but not quite. I've already dragged on here but if you would like, send me a PM and I'll do my best to describe what you can expect from this great game. If you are a newer console owner, I'll tell you about my favorites there too that I'm sure you would like because of great story and combat.

Several games mentioned in this thread are not RPG's but first person shooters.

I don't like First Person Shooters at all. When I play a game I like the exploration and story aspect. I even like crafting. I will always turn combat down to the easiest "noob" level possible and will avoid up close "hand to hand" combat. I will always play a ranged or stealth type of character and either snipe enemies from a long distance or if I can , sneak past and avoid combat entirely .

"The Quest" series is the only current rpg that gives me that nostalgic feeling I had with Bards Tale I.

It actually has a fantastic story line if you can get yourself past the graphics.

Divine Divinity, while old(2002), is a hell of a lot of fun and looks fantastic--arguably the pinnacle of 2D graphics for an RPG, with 3D accelerated special effects for magic and spells. The game is one of the rare ones where you can sit down to play for a while and after hours pass you realize the entire afternoon has been spent having fun. The game sucks you in.

I best describe it as a combination of Ultima's open world and interactivity with Diablo-esque combat. Really, when you boil it down, the combat is similar to Ultima 7's, but with skill involved as you simply can't click on an enemy and expect to win. Deliberate and frequent use of the spacebar to pause combat and think about what you're going to do next is required, similar to how Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 or Planescape Torment made you think, though this time you have one character--yourself, and no party to bail you out.

MGSV is a 3rd person stealth game. You want story you got that too in spades. In fact you'll need to read some wikis to even really have a clue of what's going on in these games. Ground Zeroes is a prologue and takes place on a large, Cuban military base at night in a rain storm. Easy 20+ hours of missions and things to do and multiple ways to do it. Phantom Pain continues where the prologue leaves off and sees you entering two campaigns, one in Afghanistan and one in Africa. Its a 3rd person stealth/infiltration and shooter. You unlock new weapons and equipment and build a home base simultaneously while doing your missions. After a few hours into the game you then gain access to weapons customization. Suppressors in game are limited so must be used wisely. There are other stealth measures you can take, interrogate soldiers to find out info and more, hostage rescue, demolition missions, kidnapping. You can ride horseback, hide side saddle like indians in the movies, get a canine to do missions with you and so on. Its separate but you can build bases in an online mode and do missions and challenges that thematically tie into the game and any rewards you gain from doing them such as new camo can be used in the main campaign. You can have a buddy, side arm, secondary weapon and a third. There are sniper rifle aplenty and like I said, eventually you can build and customize your own weapons.

Not sure if it qualifies as an RPG like Skyrim but I am really enjoying The Long Dark at the moment. Great story so far, and in my opinion very atmospheric.

Another idea might be to have a look at the King's Quest series. More like an interactive movie (remember the Dragon's Lair laserdisc game?), but it ticks the box on being story-driven, and the art is very well done.

Thanks for all the advice and suggestions . I really like Skyrim so I downloaded Elder Scrolls Oblivion ....just getting started , but so far it seems good.

Arx Fatalis is awesome as well, and easily superior to Oblivion in story and purpose. It's a first-person RPG that was a spiritual successor to Ultima Underworld.

I always interested in Arx Fatalis but never tried it. Isn't it made by Arkane people who did Dark Messiah Might and Magic and Dishonored? I always loved Oblivion so now you've got me interested in trying Arx Fatalis out for the story.

Yep, was made by Arkane. I played it several years ago while recovering from heart surgery, and I couldn't put it down. Beat it in a couple of weeks I did. Very atmospheric and was a lot of fun, with lots of memorable characters, for me at least.

Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen

http://store.steampowered.com/app/367500/Dragons_Dogma_Dark_Arisen/

I'll second this but it suffers some from Japanese rpg directionlessness and I know that itsn't a word.

Hopefully Cyberpunk 2077 will be released soon.

Downloaded Dragon's Dogma ...its ok so far

Dark Souls 1 or Bloodborne are likely superior to Dragon's Dogma... but aren't straight RPGs, more like action RPGs--think Metroid meets Zelda. Everyone should play Dark Souls and its sequels. Awesome games.

I love Dragon's Dogma. Great game and I'd highly recommend it.

I'd be surprised to see it before 2019 at the earliest, and late in the year at that.

Why so? I bought it a few steam sales ago and gave it 15 minutes. I got turned off by the port, navigating menus with keyboard instead of the mouse. But I bought it because it has good reviews. I didn't give it a fair shake, setting it aside for a later go.

What is it that you think is good?

I've been waiting for it for soooooo long.

I play it with a 360 controller which I think a game controller is a must have for the game for me personally as its designed for it. One of the things I've liked about it is that for some reason its more approachable and a little less creepy than a Souls game. I see it as something that may get me to a point to try a Souls game which I'd like to. I like the combat in Dragon's Dogma. There's a lot of variety and you get to change vocations whenever you like(has to be changed at an Inn though for example) so if you find that you don't like playing as one style you can switch to another. Right now I'm playing as both a Fighter and a Ranger. Now each vocation has a ton of combat moves that you can unlock and learn and all of the combat moves are quite unique and interesting and have their different uses. Plus there is quite a bit of different armor and clothing configurations and I'm currently on the look out while on a side quest that I think is going to make available a new weaponsmith.

I also really, really like the pawn system. I don't play online but that option to "hire" another real person's in-game main pawn is just a cool idea. So some stranger, another "Arisen" in an alternate world and time(really just another player somewhere in the world playing Dragon's Dogma) can hire their pawn. So that person could be at school or work and unbeknownst to them, their pawn is out there in the virtual world not only helping a fellow player, but in doing so their pawn accumulates XP and resources that will benefit their owner later when they play and bring their pawn back to their game. Just a neat idea. Like I said I don't use online and have never tried it but the pawn system for single player is still cool. You have a main pawn that stays with you the whole time. Your custom sidekick that levels up with you. You can then hire and its recommended, two more pawns from the "rift" plane or world. Lore-wise these are other Arisen's pawns all of different varying vocations and skills and levels. Eventually you will need to let go two of your hired pawns and hire two new ones of higher level as the hired paws are what they are. So eventually as you level up they will not and therefore not suffice for your needs as they will eventually become outmatched by the enemy. So you'll need to return them and hire others. If you worked with some pawns you really liked you can favorite them so you can find them again someday. Plus you can share and exchange items among everyone's inventory. I'm sure there is more with the pawns as I'm still learning even after a couple of years. I started on Xbox 360 but moved to PC as the port is very good and the game can be played at smooth 60 fps and higher resolution. A real dream for players who started originally on the consoles.

The other reason I like the Pawns is because I like having the company. I like having someone with me when I wander beneath the dark places of the world. Having companionship is great. I personally keep the npc chatter on as it lends itself to that very thing. Sometimes they do repeat things but by and large, there is a huge selection of dialogue that they speak. I'm always hearing something new. Its also very important to keep it turned on in my opinion because that indeed is how you the player find out about things and where you should go. I didn't realize this until later but if you have a quest activated, your Pawns will have dialogue specifically related to that quest and their dialogue are actually clues. There isn't the normal hand holding of other rpgs that tell you exactly where to go and are not marked for you on the map which for the most part I like. I don't like being in an RPG and in this unique world and on a mysterious quest that supposedly you know nothing about yet somehow there is a big 'ol fat HUD marker telling you exactly where to go. When something is too cryptic for me I just go to one of the many great wiki-type sites for Dragon's Dogma that teaches about every aspect of the game.

I also like the game engine. I know its a bit older but there's something about it to me, similar to the engine used in Rockstar's Red Dead Redemption or GTA, that just seems colorful and organic somehow. There's really only one graphical feature in the game that's bad but its been that way since consoles. There's a really aggressive vignette effect at night. I suppose its to enhance the "when its night time it gets dark"! That's true but the vignette can be kind of ugly. I just except it for what it is and can ignore it. That being said one of the little details I also love in the game is the need for light. You can make temporary torches by getting kindling by looting and then equipping it and passing it over a fire. The best thing though is to own a lantern, a bottle and then fine a jar of oil to dip your bottle in to fill your lantern which you can equip and light at night or while underground or in a cave.

Combat in the game to me is a lot of fun especially with your fellowship of pawns and you do need them. I've heard you can play the game by yourself but the game is designed for having helping npcs. Your pawns can be all different vocations and therefore then have a whole different set of skills. Another thing I love in the game is that you can grab enemies and hang on or climb up them though its challenging. I've grabbed a hold of harpies only to be lifted into the air and high above the terrain. It takes stamina though to do anything be it combat or grabbing so you have to manage it. Different monsters have different weaknesses. You have to pay attention and also listen to your Pawns as they may shout out a weakness they discovered. I suppose I have not come against the worst foes yet but I've fought chimeras and griffins and cyclops I remember the first time I fought a cyclops on the Xbox 360 version on a winding mountain path. The fight probably lasted over five minutes which is like an eternity in a game and it was all that I and my pawns could do to survive, hang in there and barely hold our own. We were gaining ground albeit slowly but we were injuring it. However at the last minute it made some kind of angry sway and movement and actually fell off the ledge falling to its death below. Just a really cool moment. Every enemy is different. There are spirit orb things in some of the woods at night and one of the only main ways to defeat them is for you or a pawn to get possessed by it so that you friends can then attack "you"/it.

So far I like the story and lore in the game. Its not so Japanese rpg that its overly kooky or confusing in my opinion. More or less the world sort of feels like a Lord of the Rings type fantasy world yet its quite a bit different. That's just to say its not a Japanese game Final Fantasy or some of the anime looking rpgs that are just bizarre and confusing.

I've heard people make Souls comparison but I've never really played a Souls game. I played some of Demon Souls but I could never get to far in those games. I still want to try them someday and I think Dragon's Dogma somewhat prepares me for that. I've read reviews of Souls fans who also love DD and they seem to indicate the similarity to the Souls games lies in the combat style of having to actively shield yourself, manage different elements and watch and learn from your foes to find what their peculiar weakness or openings are. Most seem to say even those who are fans of both that they are still very different games so I don't know. Its my understanding that the Souls games are much more difficult and I think that's true as DD has always been more approachable to me.

There's lots to say about but this is in part why I like the game. I haven't even begun to touch the Dark Arisen expansion which is supposed to be huge. The PC version is much easier to travel in now than originally on the Xbox360 version. You have to travel everywhere by foot which I like but it can at times become fatiguing. In the original game you eventually come by something called a ferry stone. They were a one time use loot item that could portal you instantly in the spirit of fast travel to one of a few already established locations such as your home town or the main city in the game. But that's it. One time and the ferry stones were not easy to find and there really weren't that many as I recall. In the updated game when Dark Arisen came out they fixed that by giving the player and eternal ferry stone so now that's all you need to fast travel and you can reuse it. What's cool is that you can also find while looting or reward throughout the game these portal stones which act like customized beacons for fast travel. So you can equip them and use them or pick them up and store them for later. If you find some place far off in the world that's a long distance from anything familiar or that's not close to a base portal location, you can create your own portal location with them. I have found three and am using only one so far but I have another two that I can plant most anywhere in the world to create my own custom fast travel location.

Thanks Coot for the detailed reply. I should give it a proper go.

No problem DBond. I often wonder what little secrets I haven't found yet to the actual game play. Not long ago I discovered that I actually had even more combat moves than the ones I thought were the only ones I had for a particular vocation and I found them by accident. They had to do with timing. Perhaps they are still there somehow on mouse and keyboard but this is one of many reasons why a controller is a must.

For example as a Strider, my primary weapons are daggers sort of like a rogue style and then a reinforced bow and arrow for a secondary. With the primary attack controls for the daggers if I press the attack button once, it does an attack. If I press attack once and then once again at the tail end of the first attack animation it adds another seamless and flowing attack move. If you do it three times you can do a fluid 3 attack combo and then your character goes back into fighting stance. That's light attack button. Heavy attack button when you press it does a hard thrust with one and then the other dagger. There's no other stringing together anything on that though. The only other thing you can do with strong attack is hold down the strong attack button and it performs and different strong attack. I discovered though that you can start the attack and then press in the opposite direction mid attack animation and the move carries on and finishes in the opposite direction. I've used this to attack someone in front of and then behind me all with the same secondary strong attack move.

Here's the cooler thing I'm getting at. The basic light attacks that I mentioned above, if you slightly delay your timing when doing what would normally be your normal 3 move combo, instead of those moves stringing together a whole new set of moves can be accessed simply by slightly delaying your timing. What I achieved instead doing this is that after the first attack your character then does a series of kicks and round house kicks instead. So basically I found another three moves hidden inside the basic ones that are achieved by pressing your attack buttons with a different timing. I don't know how many more vocations have these little hidden, dual combo maneuvers but I though that was neat. Now I mentioned all these moves, yet none of these mentioned even include the vocation specific combat moves that you can learn and unlock and add to your move set. That's all just in my Strider class' primary move set not even incorporating the bow attacks. So there is a lot of variety in combat. Then you have all the cool things your pawns can do in battle to help or even aide such as grabbing an enemy from behind to let you finish them off or using the cool spring board move that you can learn that sees your character adjusting your shield to then let your pawn run at you and then get launched straight up into the air where they can then have a chance of getting onto a large enemy.

It is one of the best RPGs I've ever played. I put it above the dark souls series. The only thing that turned me off slightly was the stupid NPCs always calling #%&*$# out repetatively.

But the combat was magnificent. I wish someone had a coop game like that. There is supposedly a coop version in japan but it never released world wide.

Watched some videos about Dragons Dogma and it sounds really good! Very D&D like creating and advancing your character and pawns. A “real” RPG in that respect. Some mods on Nexus for it too. Controller support, which I require for a game like this. Wish I’d picked it up during the sale, but I’ll be watching for it now.

Here's a little example of one of the intricacies of the game:

There's a canyon of high sea bluffs that I needed to travel to. What's cool is that through this area a really, really strong wind blows through there and I could not pass through it with my character. I remember this spot when I first played on the Xbox 360 but I couldn't remember how I had gotten through there the first time. Then I remembered something. The game absolutely models encumbrance but not like any other rpg that I've seen. For my kind of character I want him to be swift so I'm always storing items at the inn or letting my main Pawn carry a lot of stuff. Encumbrance actually has a incremental affect on your character's speed. The more layers you peal off or things you unload the quicker your character can move. What's also interesting is that I read somewhere that encumbrance also is effected from the beginning depending on how you physically create your character. For example if you make him as tall and big and in fit shape he can carry potentially more if I understand correctly.

Anyhow I like my character to be as swift as possible at all times if I can just because it feels so great to move fast and free at least when I play as my Strider class. However I don't mind getting slowed down a bit when I play as the Fighter class because I love fighting with a sword and shield and decking my character out in a Knight's garb. Well this area I could not pass I remembered that I just need to be heavier. So I take back a bunch of junk from my Pawn and put on some other clothing and was able to walk through the windy canyon!

OKAY!

Coot, Master, etc., I gave in and got Dragon's Dogma on the Steam sale. I'm a die-hard Dark Souls fanatic and absolutely love everything about the 'Souls games... However...

Dragon's Dogma is awesome!

Basically it reminds me of the old AD&D Arcade Games such as Tower of Doom and Shadow of Mystara combined with Baldur's Gate and other western RPGs. So action RPG with a party and a western feel. Fantastic stuff. I was pleasantly surprised. The combat is different than Souls and more accessible with no where as steep a learning curve(so far but I think there's a lot more to it). Thank you for being so positive on the game, I might not have given it a shot otherwise and I'm happy I did.

I was totally not into the whole fantasy/magic/medieval setting genre until I played RPG's like Skyrim and the Witcher series. Those games got me hooked!

Me, I'm so burnt out on medieval fantasy RPG settings its not even funny.

I mean I won't even consider the next Elder Scrolls unless it's spectacular or there is no other choice at that time.

Thank you all for recommending Dragons' Dogma. It was just what I was looking for I play on easy mode and love the exploration and questing. I also love how taking a particular action or decision can affect the entire rest of the game. I have just killed the big Dragon and am doing the post climactic stuff but there's still lots to see and do and I am going to do another play through because apparently there are several quest lines that I did not even see because of my in game choices. I also love the pawn system. I was able to make a main pawn that suits my play style perfectly.

I wish there was a series of these games. To me it's right up there with Skyrim and Dragon Age. anybody got any suggestions for similar games ??

I would love someone to release a sci-fi action RPG. Nobody makes them, not in a proper sense. We get stuff like Prey/System Shock etc., but nothing on a grand scale like Skyrim/Baldur's Gate/Dragon Age etc. Sure, there's Fallout 3 and 4, I guess, but post apocalyptic gets old, too. I want ships and planets and galactic travel and alien worlds and life and conversation with gadgets and gizmos and weapons and freedom.

There was Mass Effect, but only the first one was good and even then didn't fully satisfy the "itch."

So fantasy has to do until then.

I would call those first person shooters with some very light RPG elements added. They are still great games though, they are just very far from being RPG's.


Did you ever play the Knights of the Old Republic RPG's?

I found Andromeda quite okay... not a top title like Witcher 3, but more than playable and fun after the patches.

I'm currently on my second playthrough of ME: Andromeda. The main story and characters are not as good compared to the original trilogy but it's still a solid game IMHO.

The upcoming Cyberpunk 2077 by CD Projekt Red would probably be the closest thing to what you're looking for, but its still probably a ways off yet.

Two games on my wishlist that I would like but don't have yet might interest some of you wanting a scifi rpg. Piranha Byte's "ELEX" came out recently. Its made by the folks who made the Gothic and Risen series. Overall it has pretty good reviews but you have to already kind of know what you're getting into with a PB game. They have made some solid RPGs that have their own unique charm and mechanics that seem to carry over into each title. I've read good things about the world it takes place on but don't expect combat on par with later generation games that are pushing new boundaries in the form of better combat and mocap animations and such. However for those who like the previous games the kind of older school combat mechanics are one of PB's endearing qualities in their games. Mainly I hear things like how well that blended scifi and fantasy elements.

The other one is called "The Technomancer". I've followed it awhile and it looks pretty interesting and unique. However like ELEX there's more than likely some tedium or jankiness that one has to be willing to endure long enough to get down into the good parts of the game. For some reason I seem to recall reading that both of these titles kind of start out slow so you have to push through. I'd like to pick up both someday but I understand what you all are talking about. I get fatigued too with certain genres after awhile and tend to need a break and play on other different games. Sometimes you just need scifi or guns instead of fantasy.

That being said I can't wait until next month for Kingdom Come: Deliverance. Its a historical Medieval setting so I'm looking for to that and a world of swords and knights without fantasy. I have a feeling it will be a great game but the kind of game that may be an acquired taste. Many of us love games like Hidden and Dangerous and Vietcong and Mafia and other similar games(usually by smaller developer studios from Europe) that even at the time of their release were not praised all that much but we still loved them and knew they were good then and that they are still good now. These kinds of games usually stand the test of time and age pretty well and are still as much fun to play now as they were then. Usually they tended to have some funkiness and limitations but they had and still have that charm and heart and vision that is rarely reproduced. I think Kingdom Come will be a game like this. I'm hoping anyways. It may be considered a niche title but I believe it has the potential to be one of those older school gems that will be really enjoyed and appreciated by many and for a long time to come. At least I'm hoping so!

Or you could try full-on historical RPG. It has novelty value.

Lots of related stuff there. Developers for KC:D include those who worked on O:FP, H&D and the CEO/Creative lead was the script writer for Mafia I and II.

I'm pushing 300 hours in the betas a month and a half before the release, and I am still looking forward to day one and the final version to thoroughly explore, and regret many of my decisions and actions.

Yeah that's why I'm sincerely hoping its like one of those mentioned gems and is long lasting because some of those folks now work for Warhorse. I couldn't get very far into the beta so I just let it be and am waiting for the finished product. I really like what I'm seeing in some of their more recent videos.