#4387055 - 10/28/17 08:54 AM
Re: DCS: AV-8B N/A VTOL Pre-Purchase
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From past experience I will wait until it is more complete before buying, very interested in this module .... ... but sick of buying stuff and holding out on a promise that it will be completed in a timely fashion eg 101 , hawk
Ferengi Rule of acquisition #1 Once you have their money ... never give it back.
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#4387058 - 10/28/17 10:30 AM
Re: DCS: AV-8B N/A VTOL Pre-Purchase
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From past experience I will wait until it is more complete before buying, very interested in this module .... ... but sick of buying stuff and holding out on a promise that it will be completed in a timely fashion eg 101 , hawk That was my thinking. But, with ED hopefully clamping down on quality (e.g. telling VEAO to do one) and having an internal test period before allowing the preorder - I'm going to risk it again.
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#4387064 - 10/28/17 12:30 PM
Re: DCS: AV-8B N/A VTOL Pre-Purchase
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ED hopefully clamping down on quality.... having an internal test period.... I'm going to risk it again. How will ED learn its lesson when customers refuse to learn theirs?
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#4387072 - 10/28/17 01:19 PM
Re: DCS: AV-8B N/A VTOL Pre-Purchase
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ED hopefully clamping down on quality.... having an internal test period.... I'm going to risk it again. How will ED learn its lesson when customers refuse to learn theirs? +1 , we stop buying half finished stuff , maybe they will put more complete stuff out in future .... For me you can only p1ss on my back so many times and tell me it is raining
Ferengi Rule of acquisition #1 Once you have their money ... never give it back.
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#4387122 - 10/28/17 08:29 PM
Re: DCS: AV-8B N/A VTOL Pre-Purchase
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Crazy thing is though, a lot of people I have heard chatting on online servers complaining how long it takes and unfinished products, yet they are purchasing pre-sale straight away!
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#4387158 - 10/29/17 04:14 AM
Re: DCS: AV-8B N/A VTOL Pre-Purchase
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A fool and his money are soon parted
Ferengi Rule of acquisition #1 Once you have their money ... never give it back.
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#4387165 - 10/29/17 06:08 AM
Re: DCS: AV-8B N/A VTOL Pre-Purchase
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As long as the DCS: AV-8B is in the 80% - 85% finished range I'm good, RAZBAM are putting much time and money to get their aircraft as good as their able to do. M-2000C Pending Update Fix List I'm happy to back them, cut down and only have two dinners out and two movies this month instead of three. You guy's look and compare BMS a bit here to DCS, how much time and money would it take to get F4 to the 90% level after release, if it was a real company and the code was not leaked online? I think it would be years of full time work to get F4 systems and flight model polished up to the 90% level, from what I've read online about BMS, Superpak, FreeFalcon. Would this company have released maps and aircraft to support this work to get F4 to the level it is now, when the core game sales slowed down? So I'm good with using the aircraft as is at 80%, knowing it will be worked on for the next see able years to polish it up to the highest level they can, like the other DCS and 3rd party aircraft and F4 BMS. If your not good with this long development time and polish time for this niche, then I would say not to buy it now and wait a year and see where the aircraft is at then. You can also look at other sims, like il2 cliffs of Dover, to see how long it took to become the sim it is today, thanks to Team Fusion that worked for free on the sim mods. That now have a stake$ ? and a legal license for the full source code to work with now. One last thing, this will be the most detailed and realistic VTOL flight model there is for flight simulation, it could take time for this new flight model to get close to perfect as possible.
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#4387170 - 10/29/17 08:49 AM
Re: DCS: AV-8B N/A VTOL Pre-Purchase
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Yup another advertise account. Well this is the DCS section, it's just a little heads up about the DCS: AV-8B and that it is available for pre purchase at a lower cost. I signed up here to help Darren as seen here in this post actually. and if I was advertising for this module, I would not have written. "If your not good with this long development time and polish time for this niche, then I would say not to buy it now and wait a year and see where the aircraft is at then."
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#4387208 - 10/29/17 04:30 PM
Re: DCS: AV-8B N/A VTOL Pre-Purchase
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leigh583 You objectively wrote two pages about defend dcs, and it has nothing to do with whisper marketing. okay dcs you're doing it wrong
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#4387213 - 10/29/17 04:58 PM
Re: DCS: AV-8B N/A VTOL Pre-Purchase
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I really want a Harrier to fly (would have preferred the Falklands setting but that looks to be never coming) so this has my interest. Not going to pre-order though,I will wait to see what others make of it.
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#4387233 - 10/29/17 06:49 PM
Re: DCS: AV-8B N/A VTOL Pre-Purchase
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You guy's look and compare BMS a bit here to DCS, how much time and money would it take to get F4 to the 90% level after release, if it was a real company and the code was not leaked online? I think it would be years of full time work to get F4 systems and flight model polished up to the 90% level, from what I've read online about BMS, Superpak, FreeFalcon. Would this company have released maps and aircraft to support this work to get F4 to the level it is now, when the core game sales slowed down?
So I'm good with using the aircraft as is at 80%, knowing it will be worked on for the next see able years to polish it up to the highest level they can, like the other DCS and 3rd party aircraft and F4 BMS. Hahahaha... that's one can of worms you'd best not open.
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#4387236 - 10/29/17 07:26 PM
Re: DCS: AV-8B N/A VTOL Pre-Purchase
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I really want a Harrier to fly (would have preferred the Falklands setting but that looks to be never coming) so this has my interest. Not going to pre-order though,I will wait to see what others make of it. makes 2 of us I never cared much for the US made Harrier - the British Sea Harrier FRS.1 yes, but what I wanted really to fly was the Mirage III in a Falklands setting. Another interesting Sea Harrier would be the AMRAAM capable FA.2 ... one can only dream
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#4387287 - 10/30/17 02:56 AM
Re: DCS: AV-8B N/A VTOL Pre-Purchase
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It is a pity that Jet Thunder is no longer in development - I was looking forward to flying the Mirage IIIE/Dagger against the Sea Harrier.
Yeah Tom I followed that one for a long time and was hopeful - shame...
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