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#4385877 - 10/19/17 11:44 PM Re: Older guy thats the noob here [Re: Nacman]  
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If you use a touchscreen, you really shouldn't need the MFD panels. Here's a link anyway.... https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster...56657&sr=8-1&keywords=cougar+mfd

Extractions are just different windows, so you can re-size them.


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#4385881 - 10/20/17 12:11 AM Re: Older guy thats the noob here [Re: schnidrman]  
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Originally Posted by schnidrman
If you use a touchscreen, you really shouldn't need the MFD panels. Here's a link anyway.... https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster...56657&sr=8-1&keywords=cougar+mfd

Extractions are just different windows, so you can re-size them.




Thanks, I was kinda thinking that. Need to find good touchscreens.

-Nacman

#4385883 - 10/20/17 12:24 AM Re: Older guy thats the noob here [Re: Nacman]  
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I have fat sausage fingers, so buttons are better for me.

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#4385913 - 10/20/17 09:12 AM Re: Older guy thats the noob here [Re: Nacman]  
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I had a 27" Acer, but it was too big for my setup, hit my knees.

Picked up a Dell P2418HT and it's perfect. That's what I'm using in the video.

#4385969 - 10/20/17 04:15 PM Re: Older guy thats the noob here [Re: jskibo]  
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Originally Posted by jskibo
I had a 27" Acer, but it was too big for my setup, hit my knees.

Picked up a Dell P2418HT and it's perfect. That's what I'm using in the video.



thanks. Looking now!

#4385991 - 10/20/17 06:22 PM Re: Older guy thats the noob here [Re: - Ice]  
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Originally Posted by - Ice
Hello Nacman and welcome back to Falcon! Welcome to SimHQ as well!


Note that you don't need TWO touchscreens, I have a Helios profile for ONE touchscreen. The only reason I have two is because I bought a second one with the intent of selling the first touchscreen..... but never really got around to it and then had the "bright" idea of using both of them smile



Thanks Ice!!! I am about to pull the trigger on some touchscreens. Which model do you have? I am looking at the Dells P2418HT's and which two in the picture are touch enabled? Does Helios only work with one?

-Richard

#4386099 - 10/21/17 07:38 AM Re: Older guy thats the noob here [Re: Nacman]  
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Originally Posted by DBond
And yes, Ice has all the cool kit

And when you see other people's pits, you'll see how my pit is quite "basic" biggrin


Originally Posted by Nacman
So what touchscreens do you recommend and what size? I have the Track IR coming tomorrow.

These MFD panels I see. Does anyone have a suggestion or review? I realize the MFD's can be extracted in BMS and output to the a window or monitor. How do you get one so small? Maybe I need to go investigate via google.

I recommend at least a 22" touchscreen, or 24" if you can. As jskibo said, any bigger and you'll likely have some sort of mounting issue. You can't go too low or you'll hit your knees, you can't go too high because you'll end up looking UPWARDS to look at your main screen. You can tilt the touchscreen a bit to reduce the vertical height, but tilting it too much may reduce your ability to reach for the top section of the monitor where the ICP is situated. So I think 24" may be the sweet spot. You don't want it too small.... one user had a 19" touchscreen and while it's still serviceable at that size, it's difficult to accurately manipulate the buttons/switches/knobs because the touch area becomes too small.

If you do get a touchscreen, there's no need for Cougar MFDs and I would actually advise against it. The Helios profile has MFDs built-in and the nice part is that the MFDs can be overlayed so you can still use the space that the MFDs occupy to display other useful things like charts, maps, etc. but you cannot do this with physical MFDs over a screen.


Originally Posted by Nacman
which two in the picture are touch enabled? Does Helios only work with one?

Both of the lower screens are touchscreens.... and Helios does work with more than one. Some users have three touchscreens or more!


- Ice
#4386119 - 10/21/17 12:39 PM Re: Older guy thats the noob here [Re: - Ice]  
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Originally Posted by - Ice

And when you see other people's pits, you'll see how my pit is quite "basic" biggrin



It's all relative innit? Still, you have a nice setup. Mine is rather shabby in comparison biggrin


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#4386157 - 10/21/17 05:33 PM Re: Older guy thats the noob here [Re: DBond]  
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Originally Posted by DBond
It's all relative innit? Still, you have a nice setup. Mine is rather shabby in comparison biggrin

It is indeed smile Thanks for the kind words!


- Ice
#4386177 - 10/21/17 07:58 PM Re: Older guy thats the noob here [Re: Nacman]  
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I'm baaaaaack!
😁

A guy takes a 12 year sabbatical from F4 to race cars, gets stalked and subsequently woken up from my F4 slumber by Nacman, and you guys have all gone crazy! HELIOS/TrackIR (which I actually did have an early version of and disliked intensely), 5 screen setups, 3rd iteration of BMS 4.33, all I can say is wow! I have a new Alienware R4 17.3" (non-touch UHD) screen with Tobi eye tracking and a full CH Fighterstick Pro setup (assuming it still works), is there any hope for me? Haven't tried the Tobi other than the setup test, seems to work well, no idea if it will in BMS. I already did the BMS U1/U2/U3 install and it comes up fine, boy do I have a lot to re-learn! My assumption is i'll buy a 42+" 4k monitor once I land in my new home overseas, but will make due until then. What voice comms program is being used, TS3 (assume MP works well?)? Are there graphics upgrades (like the old HiTiles)?

Thanks!

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#4386247 - 10/22/17 01:29 PM Re: Older guy thats the noob here [Re: Nacman]  
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Well, then welcome back. Like Ice, only more?

I used to live in Sherman, worked in Danbury. Nice area.


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#4386253 - 10/22/17 02:03 PM Re: Older guy thats the noob here [Re: DBond]  
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Thank you!
Funny, the name Icer is what, when I was a kid, used to call the brain-freeze you get when you drink something really cold too fast. It's been my call sign since the first MMP flight sim, Confirmed Kill (pre-cursor to Warbirds and Aces High) back in the 80's.... we used to connect by Telnet! The "Iceman" nick and all iterations seemed to explode right after Top Gun... me, I like causing headaches.. smile


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#4386254 - 10/22/17 02:11 PM Re: Older guy thats the noob here [Re: Nacman]  
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We use SimHQ's Teamspeak, sticky thread at the top of the forum. We would probably use the built-in IVC if we had more pilots.

If there are graphics upgrades I'm not using any. Everything runs like butter so I tend not to tempt fate, nor the Falcon gods.


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#4386255 - 10/22/17 02:11 PM Re: Older guy thats the noob here [Re: Nacman]  
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Hahaha!! Welcome, Icer!!

Yep, there's still hope for you! Otherwise, what has the rest of us got to look forward to? biggrin TS3 is still being used, I'm not sure about Tobi working with BMS as it's the first time I've heard of it, and Polak's tiles are great and no need for HiTiles. Check out the Israel, Balkans, and Ostsee theatres to gawk at the great tiles.


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#4386259 - 10/22/17 03:03 PM Re: Older guy thats the noob here [Re: - Ice]  
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Found them, looks great. Assume only get mods made for U3, yes?

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#4386266 - 10/22/17 03:25 PM Re: Older guy thats the noob here [Re: Nacman]  
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What do you mean?


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#4386353 - 10/23/17 12:38 PM Re: Older guy thats the noob here [Re: GPatricks]  
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Originally Posted by Icer
Found them, looks great. Assume only get mods made for U3, yes?


I think it's more accurate to say only get things for 4.33. I don't know that there is anything out there that would work on U2, but not on U3 for example. However, stuff made for 4.32 doesn't necessarily work with 4.33.


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#4386382 - 10/23/17 03:07 PM Re: Older guy thats the noob here [Re: DBond]  
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Thanks, i'll just be sure to get "made for 4.33" additions. Right now it's Falcon Christmas to me so i'm just going nuts reading about it. I tried just popping in using my CH joystick but it quickly became obvious I need my throttle and its ministick (and all the extra buttons for countermeasures/comms/etc.) to survive two minutes in Instant Action while I re-learn the old and slowly try and learn the new. Even the HARM missile deployment has changed (for the better!).

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#4386387 - 10/23/17 03:28 PM Re: Older guy thats the noob here [Re: Nacman]  
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True dat. Just wait until you get to Mavericks!


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#4386390 - 10/23/17 03:31 PM Re: Older guy thats the noob here [Re: DBond]  
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Looks like I can just put in the general coordinates of the (moving) target in, let one rip from the runway and it will find it and kill it! Maybe a little exaggeration there..
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