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#4384789 - 10/13/17 04:05 PM Re: So I get an emergency phone call at work.. [Re: WangoTango]  
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$5000? is af threshold value


There was only 16 squadrons of RAF fighters that used 100 octane during the BoB.
The Fw190A could not fly with the outer cannon removed.
There was no Fw190A-8s flying with the JGs in 1945.
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#4384799 - 10/13/17 04:52 PM Re: So I get an emergency phone call at work.. [Re: WangoTango]  
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Sorry to hear this. I'm sure your rage levels are at an all time high. Time to take the kid gloves off, I guess. I wish you luck.

#4384804 - 10/13/17 05:15 PM Re: So I get an emergency phone call at work.. [Re: WangoTango]  
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Thanks for the sympathy and advice. The hardest part of this is trying to understand why he gave up on himself. He's a totally different person since about Easter. He went from a jock, obsessed with Lacrosse, to hanging with the Loser druggies. He told my wife to just give up on him. That is not gonna happen.
He had a concussion from Rugby right before the summer. We think that maybe the concussion combined with the car accident trauma might be a factor.

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#4384806 - 10/13/17 05:17 PM Re: So I get an emergency phone call at work.. [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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Originally Posted by KraziKanuK
$5000? is af threshold value

Sorry, I don't know what you mean by "af"

#4384807 - 10/13/17 05:19 PM Re: So I get an emergency phone call at work.. [Re: Haggart]  
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Originally Posted by Haggart
Sounds like it's time to send him to a boys work ranch here in Texas where the weather is a little hotter than Canada.

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I would love this.

#4384813 - 10/13/17 05:41 PM Re: So I get an emergency phone call at work.. [Re: WangoTango]  
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Originally Posted by WangoTango
Originally Posted by KraziKanuK
$5000? is af threshold value

Sorry, I don't know what you mean by "af"

Spelling mistake, added the 'f' somehow.


There was only 16 squadrons of RAF fighters that used 100 octane during the BoB.
The Fw190A could not fly with the outer cannon removed.
There was no Fw190A-8s flying with the JGs in 1945.
#4384843 - 10/13/17 08:37 PM Re: So I get an emergency phone call at work.. [Re: - Ice]  
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Originally Posted by - Ice
Sorry, I'm not as old as you, RK biggrin biggrin biggrin

Thanks for the clarification... but still, why is he being charged? And why the $5000? Or is the money just some sort of threshold value?


Sounds to me like this is another incident, not the family car from before.

#4384844 - 10/13/17 08:43 PM Re: So I get an emergency phone call at work.. [Re: WangoTango]  
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Ah... re-reading it again and it does sound like it. I was assuming this was a continuation of the previous incident.


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#4384847 - 10/13/17 08:51 PM Re: So I get an emergency phone call at work.. [Re: WangoTango]  
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yea that's why i posted the boys ranch in Texas


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#4384949 - 10/14/17 01:30 PM Re: So I get an emergency phone call at work.. [Re: WangoTango]  
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Sounds like you might need to move. Either ship him off to military school or move, because at this rate your son is headed to a bad, bad place, fast. Sorry man. frown

You need to act now, though, before these behavior issues become a habit, while there's still a chance to turn him around. Maybe he's got brain damage from the injury? Perhaps before you ship him off get a third person medical evaluation and brain scan, outside the Canadian health system. It'll cost you but kids are worth it.

#4384997 - 10/14/17 08:30 PM Re: So I get an emergency phone call at work.. [Re: WangoTango]  
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Originally Posted by WangoTango
Thanks for the sympathy and advice. The hardest part of this is trying to understand why he gave up on himself. He's a totally different person since about Easter. He went from a jock, obsessed with Lacrosse, to hanging with the Loser druggies. He told my wife to just give up on him. That is not gonna happen.
He had a concussion from Rugby right before the summer. We think that maybe the concussion combined with the car accident trauma might be a factor.


Isn't depression something caused by concussions? Add that on top of being a teenager in the first place and you may have at least a contributing factor.
IMO, teenagers also get lazy and prefer to tell people "they aren't smart enough to keep up with the smart kids" or "it's a waste of time" as a means of getting out of responsibilities like school etc.
My son gives me that one, thinking it gets him out of working hard at school. I keep telling him if he isn't as smart then he's got to make up for it by working harder. Calling yourself dumb doesn't get you off the hook.
Especially when you know it isn't true and it's just an excuse.

I also told him going into high school, and many times since, that it's not the bad kids that will get him in trouble and talk him into doing stupid things. It'll be his friends. You've got to be strong enough to say no to those people, which is not an easy thing to do.
They will all make mistakes, some worse than others and often drag friends down with them. With my son, it was shop lifting when he was 15. I found out when checking his texts. I took him right to the store and had him explain to the manager and fork over money to pay for what he took.
IMO, you've got to have them suffer consequences from outside, not just grounding etc. Prove that the world doesn't accept that crap either, you can't just blame Dad.


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#4386957 - 10/27/17 04:04 PM Re: So I get an emergency phone call at work.. [Re: WangoTango]  
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make him work to pay off the damages and costs incurred

have him work at something that will give him purpose

drifting, listless teens need something to give them a reason to exist, without it they are doomed to serious mental health problems in the future

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