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#4381903 - 09/28/17 04:56 PM Experience over Time  
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Hi again.
The Thread "Is Woff dead?" was a nice Push (for me) to write a bit...

I'd like to talk about the Survival-Rate, here, and how the Time you've spent in the Cockpit affects it.
Interestingly, I thought after a Year or two: Hey, I know how Things work. Nevertheless, my Pilots rarely survied 60 Missions or more. I kept wondering, why, and did not find any sufficient answers. My Combat-Abilities were pretty good, and had not really improved since. Also, my Awareness was okay.
Meanwhile I was astonished about the Fact, that most of my Pilots now have survived more than 200 Missions, and I don't expect them to be shot to Pieces or Crash-Land within the next few Missions or so. I wondered, why...
I think, the Learning-Curve for Woff is even larger than we already have expected. Personally, I fly Woff for roundabout 5 or 6 Years now, and I think, the Survival-Rate mainly climbs up, because one gets better in evaluating Risks.
What do you think?


#4381906 - 09/28/17 05:26 PM Re: Experience over Time [Re: Nietzsche]  
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Nietzsche, I would agree completely. I used to marvel at pilots with longevity, yours included in the DID campaigns. My experience was much the same as yours before. By listening to you and other "good" sim pilots maybe I have put it all together as I now have a pilot with over 100 hrs.

My tactics borrowed from others in a nutshell are:
Forget about kills. If you live long enough you will have plenty. A dead pilot makes no kills.
Stay out of fur balls. Too much risk of collision.
Don't follow an enemy down low unless over your own territory. And, don't follow him down if he can dive better than you unless you want your wings torn off.
When outnumbered, try to damage one when you can and then go to someone else. One less to deal with. Always look for an exit. Along with this, if you see it in time, run, don't get outnumbered in the first place.
If an HA in your squad is bound and determined to horn in on your kill, let him have it. Again, collision risk.
If your wingman or a squad mate does something stupid, let him pay for his own mistakes. I will go into a tough situation to help one but if he wants to chase planes over the lines low, it's his funeral. Not mine.

It is hard to give up a kill when it is "right there" but if the odds are not there, let it go. it just is not worth it.

I think you hit the nail on the head. As should be obvious, all the above deal with evaluating risk.
Good post Bud!

Last edited by MFair; 09/28/17 05:28 PM.

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#4381911 - 09/28/17 06:05 PM Re: Experience over Time [Re: Nietzsche]  
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Well Said MFair and Nietzsche. It's all sound logic but it is only as good as your ability to apply it. I think the key to this is to get all the gung ho killing out of your way in QC and short term missions before starting into DiD. Staying cool is the key.

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#4381937 - 09/28/17 08:27 PM Re: Experience over Time [Re: Nietzsche]  
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For me, reduction in fence lethality is probably the biggest contributing factor to my pilot’s survival.

"Take the cylinder out of my kidneys,
The connecting rod out of my brain, my brain,
From out of my arse take the camshaft,
And assemble the engine again."
#4381997 - 09/29/17 02:46 AM Re: Experience over Time [Re: Nietzsche]  
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Good advice
Add trees to the lethality factor.

#4382039 - 09/29/17 10:53 AM Re: Experience over Time [Re: Nietzsche]  
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Lack of patience and boredom will always get you in the end if you don't master them. That's my experience so far.

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#4382363 - 10/01/17 02:33 PM Re: Experience over Time [Re: Nietzsche]  
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Great advice from all and I use it! I like to fly 'crappy' aircraft. This 'enhances' risk awareness for me. Another tactic to use, if possible, is to fly low over your own trench line units and let the friendly guys help damage your pursuer. Once the enemy gets a little 'overweight' with lead slugs he'll try to turn away. You have a good 30 seconds or so to get in a good burst of fire if you can turn to him quick enough. Don't follow him over HIS lines!

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