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#4379836 - 09/16/17 01:53 AM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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There are no dummy dies in Ryzen Threadripper

Long story short, all [4] dies have integrated circuits, all have transistors, all of them are real dies. They are just not enabled or fully functional..

Does it mean that Threadripper could potentially include 32-core configurations in the future, just as EPYC? It could, but right now it would directly compete with EPYC and that’s simply an unnecessary move for AMD...


So, the 16 core/32 thread AMD Threadripper is actually a 32 core/64 thread set of hardware with 16 cores disabled -- I personally ass-u-me some of the extra 16 are functional but AMD decided to stop at activating 16 cores.

That does not change how current Threadrippers work. However, it indicates that Threadripper can grow to 32 cores relatively easily if AMD needs 32 cores to compete (just need 4 perfect chips/dies). Presumably, this means 32 cores are coming in the not so distant future, I ass-u-me. So, single or quad threaded games/software will become a thing of the past sooner than I expected, I speculate.

To me, an interesting aspect of the above article is this: A geek bought a Threadripper and destroyed it (by taking it apart) to prove or disprove the idea that the Threadripper one buys does potentially have 32 live cores.

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#4379859 - 09/16/17 09:56 AM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: Allen]  
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Presumably, this means 32 cores are coming in the not so distant future, I ass-u-me. So, single or quad threaded games/software will become a thing of the past sooner than I expected, I speculate.


Absolutely not, because game development isn't and never has been based on the latest technology and core counts available from AMD or Intel. Doesn't the fact that both these companies have had quad core/8 thread chips out for desktops since ~2006 indicate that there is no correlation? You'd have thought that 11 years after the technology is available that they would be used by now........most of our games are still only using 1 or 2 CPUs are still aren't efficiently coded for multithreading, even for just 4 cores. It's the mass target audience and effort against return that game devs use when creating their titles, and the reason why PCs, regardless of the horsepower available will be limited by the console brethren who typically don't get hardware upgrades for years on end (although this is slowly changing on each console generation release where they are becoming more and more like a PC).

On top of that, it's the tip of the iceberg in terms of the number of PC gamers that use the latest and highest core count CPUs in their gaming capable machines. No developer on earth is going to put their time, effort and resources into creating a game/sim that only supports that tiny minority.

I do see quad core chips being used more efficiently in the future, and the next step being 8 core...but that alignment again, will be geared around the next half-generation of consoles (i.e XOne) where PC development has (or should have) a much closer alignment. As for 16 core/32 thread coded games, in 10-15 years maybe......perhaps it depends on what your definition of 'not-so-distant' future actually is! But then I suspect that the CPU will become less and less important anyway and even more of the compute functionality will be integrated with the GPU as it becomes the heart of a typical PC and the CPU becomes secondary.


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#4379868 - 09/16/17 11:56 AM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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I remember paying about $500 for a cutting edge AMD graphics card having 48 shaders. Now, the cutting edge (for AMD) is 4096 shaders running at much higher clocks -- and games are beginning to use that many -- though arguably they don't really need that many. We're only talking a bit over a decade for an almost factor of 100 increase (accounting for shader count and GPU clocks).

Using multi CPU threads is harder to program. Moreover, games are/were made around Intel CPUs -- which only had 4 cores/threads at reasonable prices.

But, Intel has joined the high core count party (up to 18 core/36 thread Intel CPUs are on the way). That is very likely a "game changer". If Intel makes it, the game companies will think differently -- and use it, eventually.

In the future, games will still run on 4 cores -- with reduced settings. But, they will run best on 16+ cores. Folks who want maximum performance regardless of cost (currently Intel/Nivida high end customers) will go for high CPU core count because it will deliver the top FPS numbers. My opinion, of course smile


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I still disagree, the brand 'Intel' and 'AMD' are still largely irrelevant when consoles are using lower spec components and therefore it's still pointless for devs to put the time and effort into multi-threaded coding when it just can't be used to the same extent. If a game can be coded to use 18 cores, then it isn't a simple task to direct these into schedulers that utilise half of that or much less and maintain anything like a similar level of performance, and therefore the time/effort/return equation comes into effect.....and more so when some of todays games are equivalent to Triple A Hollywood blockbusters in terms of cost.

You can't therefore just say that in the future, games will run on 4 cores but will run best on 16+ cores either, the same rule applies as above and as we know with todays' games just adding cores doesn't suddenly give a huge performance increase because the games don't just suddenly start using them, they don't even know they are there unless the host operating system (software) is able to do some limited manipulation or 'tricks' but it will never be the same or as fast as what the CPU can do at a hardware level. Given the typical tasks that the CPU undertakes and the parallel computing of GPUs, I still think you're much more like to see the importance put onto the GPU especially for games many more times over than the inclusion of huge CPU core counts.

Folks who want 'maximum performance' will always have a top-end GPU paired with an average to good CPU......simply because the GPU is many more times powerful than a top-end CPU especially for games. It's the same reason why a GPU can be bottle-necked by a CPU but the other way around is rarely a issue.


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#4379961 - 09/17/17 11:10 AM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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On the competition front:

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The main event CPU on October 5 will be a 6 core/12 thread device. Single-core and per-core performance is speculated to be very good, based on a leaked benchmark -- not unexpected for an Intel product.


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#4380133 - 09/18/17 06:02 PM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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More competition news. Intel to try to match AMD 8 core price/performance in mid to late 2018:

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Intel To Launch Ice Lake 8 Core, 16 Thread Mainstream CPUs in Second Half of 2018 – Will Feature Support on 300 Series Platform

Intel seems to be preparing a new series of processors which will further boost the core count of their mainstream platform. The said processor lineup is planned for launch in second half of 2018 and it might be making use of the latest 10nm process technology.


High core counts are where the future is headed. But, the added cores don't affect games much (if at all) today. Apparently, Intel will standardize on 8 cores next year -- if "mainstream" means the same to Intel as it means to me.


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#4380222 - 09/19/17 01:03 PM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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AMD RX Vega Custom Cards Could Come As Late As November [ASUS sooner]

So far all RX Vega graphics cards that AIBs have been selling were directly supplied by AMD. All the card makers have been doing so far is slapping their stickers on the cards, packaging them and putting them out the door. .. Asus may be the only exception [has an ASUS custom design], official word is their [custom designed] Strix cards will begin shipping this month...


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#4380458 - 09/20/17 03:43 PM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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Apparently AMD Vega is not the only product behind schedule:

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..[Intel] has reportedly delayed its first generation of 10nm based products, code named Cannon Lake, a third time. The new chips are now expected to come out no sooner than the end of 2018. That’s a setback of more than a full year over the company’s originally announced schedule which pegged Cannon Lake as a mid 2017 product.

..The three major players [other than Intel] include TSMC, Samsung and AMD’s key partner and ex-manufacturing arm Globalfoundries. All of whom are now projected to have volume production of 10nm equivalent or better process technology ready to go by 2019..

..Globalfoundries is expected to begin 7nm DUV volume production in the second half of [2018]...


As previously noted (in this Future of AMD thread), AMD is skipping 10nm entirely. The next AMD CPU and GPU designs are being designed for 7nm and have been rumored for 2019. However, who really knows how it will turn out. 7nm is close to the limit for silicon devices -- until they do it, they haven't done it.


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#4380585 - 09/21/17 06:51 AM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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AMD Is Building A Self-Driving Car AI Chip For Tesla

AMD has reportedly won another major semicustom chip design contract, this time around from Tesla..

Tesla has reportedly already received samples of the new semi-custom chip and is currently testing it. This is Tesla’s first attempt at making its own purpose-built AI chip and is said to be leveraging AMD IP mixed with its own. The company currently relies on GPUs from AMD’s rival, NVIDIA, for its self-driving cars..

The new AI chip is believed to be the first major step towards Tesla’s goal of delivering totally autonomous vehicles to consumers by 2019..

AMD shares are up 4.7% on the news and continue to climb in after-hours trading as of writing this.


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#4380586 - 09/21/17 06:57 AM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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Semi-substantiated rumor.

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AMD wants Radeon Vega and Ryzen on 12nm LP process next year

AMD switching from 14nm LP to 12nm LP
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This means that the slides published by AMD are no longer valid, as 14nm+ has now been shifted to 12nm. The so-called Zen+ might be the architecture behind Ryzen 2000 series, which should launch in 2H 2018..

The longterm roadmap outlines the plans for 2017/2018/2019. By 2020 AMD wants 7nm and 7nm+ products to be available. It appears that next year is a year for refreshed architectures with big upgrades coming in 2019...


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#4380921 - 09/23/17 03:03 AM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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With the advent of Vega and DX12, CrossFireX is out and mGPU is in. mGPU does not have the "issues" of CrossFire and SLI.

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..The company is by no means ending multi-GPU support for its graphics cards, in fact its latest drivers enable multi-GPU support for its recently released Radeon RX Vega graphics cards with promises of 80%+ performance scaling..

..[With mGPU] One GPU could render one portion of the frame while the second could render another portion of the same frame for example. This is called Split Frame Rendering, SFR for short. This technique negates the limitations inherent in the traditional alternate frame rendering – AFR – technique used today in DX11 and older games,.

..it allows developers to force NVIDIA and AMD GPUs to work together...


The latest AMD GPU driver (AMD Crimson ReLive Edition 17.9.2 BETA) supports mGPU, they say.

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#4381040 - 09/24/17 10:19 AM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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This is a pro-AMD thread. Its not an anti-Intel thread (Intel and Nvidia do many things right).

When Ryzen and Vega came out, they seemed "imperfect" in the sense that the entire new platform had the normal growing pains -- that last for months after initial release.

Some reviewers/pundits were miffed about AMD normal growing pains.

Well, it seems some are miffed about Intel normal growing pains.

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Intel Coffelake-S 8th Gen Desktop and Z370 Controversy


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Nvidia pricing is also affected by Cryptocurrency mining and expensive memory:

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NVIDIA Graphics Card Prices To Continue To Rise Until December Report Claims

NVIDIA GeForce GTX graphics card prices will see a price uptick amounting to roughly 10% starting this month due to a global memory shortage. A new report by Mizuho’s chief semiconductor analyst emerged yesterday claiming that this pricing inflation trend will continue until December, when cryptocurrency driven demand is expected to die down..

..cryptocurrency miners .. have driven GPU prices up by 25% in the past six months..

Graphics card supply from both NVIDIA and AMD has consistently been under pressure over the past several months, due to the recent boom in the cryptocurrency coin Ethereum. Unlike other cryptocurrencies .. , Ethereum can only be efficiently mined using GPUs..

..the profit incentive to mine is slowly eroding...


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When released, Ryzen CPUs had to use memory designed for Intel CPUs. It worked (I have some). However, maximum speeds could not always be reached (my 3200MHz memory runs at 3000MHz).

Now, there begins to be memory designed for Ryzen CPUs:

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Low power 12nm version of Ryzen

AMD has told its partners that it plans to launch in February 2018 an upgraded version of its Ryzen series processors built using a 12nm low-power (12LP) process at Globalfoundries..

..codenamed Pinnacle 7, followed by mid-range Pinnacle 5 and entry-level Pinnacle 3 processors in March 2018...


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On the competition front: Lack of GPU chips for graphics card manufacturers and knowing that bitcoin type mining will account for most AMD sales is taking its toll.

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Gigabyte and MSI Back Out From Offering Custom Radeon RX Vega 64 Graphics Cards – Focusing Towards The NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Ti Instead

MSI and Gigabyte will not be offering any custom Radeon RX Vega 64 GPU but instead focus on the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Ti which will be out in October..

..there will be a potential mining market going after these [AMD] GPUs as soon as they launch..

There is some hope as AMD exclusive partners such as Sapphire, XFX, Powercolor may offer new and fresh custom designs of the RX Vega lineup in November but so far, we have seen no details from them...


AMD has a "well rounded" GPU. It does both games and non-game computations very well at a reasonable price. Turns out that's a handicap if professional (defined as do it for profit) bitcoin miners buy all the cards (because of computational "bang per buck") and the unavailability turns off gamers who need the FPS (but not the computations, usually).


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This note contradicts the one just above. This one says there will be custom Gigabyte RX Vega GPUs soon.

Not all news is accurate. Now we'll see which is correct (if any) as the weeks pass.

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Hardware.info reports that contrary to the previous story Gigabyte will launch custom RX Vega. The company is allegedly preparing few models. The source claims that custom Vega graphics cards will be available in stores late October.


I personally can wait for a "bang per buck" custom offering. I thought Black Friday might have some. But, if custom cards are being first released in October, November, I suppose I'll be waiting until after the Holidays (i.e. some time next year). Since AMD sells so many of them to bitcoin miners, they don't need my money (not that I would make a donation -- has to be "bang per buck" and probably under $500 for me to buy).


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AMD RX Vega 64 Outperforms NVIDIA GTX 1080 Ti By Up To 23% In DX12 Forza 7

The drivers used were Crimson ReLive 17.93 for AMD and 385.69 for NVIDIA. These drivers are officially optimized for Forza 7..

ComputerBase reached out to NVIDIA and the company confirmed that the results were indeed accurate..

..one thing’s for certain, Vega can really spread its wings in DirectX 12. Perhaps AMD’s partnership with Bethesda will expose more of what Vega can really do in DX12 games..


Nvidia shows class by confirming the results. Only one DX12 game. Still AMD was "competitive" as was Nvidia -- I doubt anyone could "see" the difference between them during game play.


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Leading edge games will begin to adapt to DX12 graphics and 8 or more CPU cores.

3DMark is getting ready with a Benchmark update that stresses DX12 graphics and CPUs with 8 or more cores.

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3DMark announces Time Spy Extreme, 4K DX12 benchmark

[3DMark says:]

Time Spy Extreme is the world’s first 4K DirectX 12 benchmark test..

Developed with input from AMD, Intel, NVIDIA, and the other members of our Benchmark Development Program, 3DMark Time Spy Extreme is an ideal benchmark test for gaming systems with the latest high-end graphics cards and new processors with 8 or more cores.

..we’re looking at new processors from AMD and Intel that can have up to 18 cores in some cases..

The CPU test has been redesigned to let processors with 8 or more cores perform to their full potential. Compared with Time Spy, the Extreme CPU test is three times more demanding. It also lets processors use more advanced instructions sets up to AVX2 when supported...


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TSMC builds 3nm Fab in Taiwan

TSMC will build the 'world's first' semiconductor plant to support the creation of 3nm node silicon chips in Taiwan.

The company has a 5nm fab in the same location even if it has not started producing 5nm chips yet. These are “scheduled to start risk production in the second quarter of 2019"


I always figured that 3nm (or close to it) would be the smallest the industry could go with Silicon CPUs.

I imagine TSMC's first 3nm consumer parts won't reach shelves for several years (first build factory, then figure out 3nm, then come up with working products). We'll see if 3nm eventually includes CPUs and GPUs (I still figure it will).

TSMC is one of AMD's suppliers. So, if they figure out 3nm, AMD will have 3nm parts eventually. Moreover, TSMC 5nm for AMD may be only a few years away.

I'm glad AMD is rumored to be taking the chance and skipping 10nm to go straight to 7nm (already designing chips for 7nm). That may make AMD slightly more ready than their competitors to move to 5nm and, eventually, 3nm (Intel's next step is supposedly 10nm and has been rumored to be delayed by problems).

By 2025 (maybe sooner) we should know how this has turned out smile


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