#4377596 - 09/02/17 11:48 PM
Re: How did Chris Nolan pull it off?
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1) I think Americans are less ignorant than usually credited for 2) The Nolan factor. At least one of my friends went to watch it simply "because Nolan". I at least have never felt disappointed by a film directed by Nolan. 3) The film simply is very, very good. As a film, not as a war flick, or as a documentary. Great visuals, probably the best (if caustic) score that Hans Zimmer ever wrote, a compelling (true) story. 4) The still somewhat fascinating conundrum that Dunkirk probably was the least likely and therefore finest victory of the Allies in WW2 which at the same time still appears as a defeat. As far as military history is concerned, it's the "Mona Lisa" effect (smiling and not smiling at the same time, depending on the distance between the observer and the painting itself). 5) Timing. The war movie genre is dead, or so we've been told. Nobody makes live flight stunts - it's all CGI these days, we've been told. But every now and then a film comes along that does everything differently, and is successful with it. Maybe people just wanted a film for a break that wasn't over the top comic book superhero action, but a piece about extraordinary feats performed by ordinary people. 6) Word of mouth still works.
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#4380039 - 09/18/17 12:56 AM
Re: How did Chris Nolan pull it off?
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I think Hollywood has been making a LOT of assumptions and getting many of those assumptions dead wrong lately.
I think being a studio exec is a very short lived career these days!!
Alien Covenant.... I think few people care about that franchise. Same with Pirates franchise. Transformers is... dying too. Marvel superhero movies are... too many too often now. They are beating a dozen dead horses, and wondering why no one wants to watch.
Not enough original content IMO.
Frankly I think PART of the reason Dunkirk made money, is that this was something fresh in a rotting field of has-beens. Sure, the history attracted some.
Not everything Hollywood is creating is mediocre, some is quite good. But I think audiences are tired of spectacle for spectacle's sake. Story and character matters, and has been largely overlooked in the quest for ever more spectacular effects.
The other day I watched a movie, and it was mostly decent. But it had two major issues: first, for a few scenes, it was almost impossible to distinguish the good guy from the badguy, and became very confusing for a few minutes. In other movies such a mistake in casting and clothing/makeup could cause the entire movie to be wasted if the audience couldn't sort that out fast. The second? The movie makes a very significant judgement on a real-world political issue. I mean c'mon, do we really need real-world politics injected into an escapist action movie?!?!
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#4380112 - 09/18/17 04:19 PM
Re: How did Chris Nolan pull it off?
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Marvel superhero movies are... too many too often now. They are beating a dozen dead horses, and wondering why no one wants to watch.
I keep wondering how long the gravy train will last for the Marvel comic book movie juggernaut? Up to now there has not been a box office flop.
“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.”
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#4380118 - 09/18/17 04:35 PM
Re: How did Chris Nolan pull it off?
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Was the last Fantastic 4 successful at the box office? That bombed but it was not made by Disney. It is indeed a Marvel comic but the FF property at the time was owned by 20th Century Fox. You are right though and I should have specified DISNEY owned Marvel stuff. However, the Spiderman films all did very well under Sony.
“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.”
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