#4375829 - 08/22/17 12:10 PM
VEAO and DCS, perhaps a thread that wont get locked.
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DBcoop7
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Ok I am not a guy in the know, as a grain of salt, but I received a announcement post off of discord and read VEAO is parting ways with DCS. I wanted to maybe know more about this, and attempted to see if there was a discussion going on giving more details in an ED off-topic sub-forum, but apparently that can't even happen without getting locked(perfectly their right to do so considering its their forum). But anyone know whats up?
Was it a money problem? I don't have actually have any aircraft modules they model. On their website they state they have the p-40 and the hawk specifically, and then the euro-fighter, as well as " classic WWII War Birds and Classic Jet Aircraft amongst many jet, prop and rotary aircraft."
What gives? Anyone got the dibs?
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#4375871 - 08/22/17 02:57 PM
Re: VEAO and DCS, perhaps a thread that wont get locked.
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For more info, I would wager you'd get some of it via the ED forums.... however, the entire process has been brewing for years, I would think. This is just the "latest happenings" in that saga.
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#4375940 - 08/22/17 08:25 PM
Re: VEAO and DCS, perhaps a thread that wont get locked.
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No company is going to wash its dirty laundry on any public forums (even British one, and especially Russian one ), either here or there, and since VEAO didn't go bust, you most likely won't find any ex-employee / insider shedding some light on the contract / legal issues either. We only know that a few months ago development of all VEAO's modules was halted while contract details with ED were being renegotiated, and that their Hawk and P-40 codes were for one reason or another more prone to going tits up with any major DCS engine update (both confirmed officially on ED forums by "the-powers-that-be") Nevertheless, ST0RM's post, being a very reasonable educated guess (for anyone who's been monitoring the long and painful saga on ED boards) pretty much sums it all up. It's been a rather expected outcome for quite a while.
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#4375943 - 08/22/17 08:44 PM
Re: VEAO and DCS, perhaps a thread that wont get locked.
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I was also a little worried since, and I'm sure I'm not alone in this, having invested a number of dollars into my rig, flight controls, & modules, concerned that something bad was going to happen to ED. If one 3rd party dev drops out thats not a big deal. -Ice your sarcasm is fantastic in some of the threads I've read, thanks for the chuckles. Glad you enjoyed the humor! As for your flight rig, even if something bad were to happen to ED, they're not the only boys in town and I'm sure you can find something else to fly ok thanks, Force 10, I asked to lock it because I hap hazardly saw a thread on ED get locked and decided to open a OT thread here newbishly not having looked at the threads below. I wasn't looking to open a hate thread, just wanted to know why both these business decided to go in different directions, given the points I had up above. I'm also new here and did not know the etiquette on what could be considered a redundant thread. Thanks for the feedback. Threads here have to get really bad before it gets locked down.... unlike the ED forums where you fart upwind and the mods clamp it down and issue you with a ban Feel free to express yourself more openly here. Not everyone will agree with you, no matter which side of the fence you're at, but such is life. Some tackle this like grown ups, others spit out their dummies and start a tantrum.... Also don't worry about redundant posts.... people will refer you to another thread if there is more activity or conversation going on there, but the mods don't usually "clean up house" as much as those reputable forums over there.
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#4376065 - 08/23/17 04:40 PM
Re: VEAO and DCS, perhaps a thread that wont get locked.
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What St0rm said about VEAO, except that I'll give them the benefit of the doubt on the "knowingly" part. Both VEAO and Aviodev used the same coder for the systems, and he bailed on both projects when the DCS framework evolved enough to break his code. You can probably put some of that on ED for changing architecture like that, but without taking sides or getting involved in things with which I am not fully knowledgeable, the bottom line is that both VEAO ahd Aviodev had to rebuild all of the advanced systems from scratch.
I won't compare VEAO to Belsimtek's track record becuase BST's status as an ED Partner makes them more privy to the DCS architecture, and the lack of a language barrier also helps them out quite a bit I'm sure. However, compared to developers like Heatblur and RAZBAM, who have put out quality products in shorter timeframes, VEAO's ambitious plan was not realistic.
FWIW, RAZBAM has indicated that they still plan to release the AV-8B N/A Harrier this year, and Heatblur is currently crunching to get a Tomcat in DCS. With the third parties onboard, I wouldn't worry too much about ED's future.
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#4376130 - 08/24/17 12:36 AM
Re: VEAO and DCS, perhaps a thread that wont get locked.
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As for your flight rig, even if something bad were to happen to ED, they're not the only boys in town and I'm sure you can find something else to fly Come to think of it, I should start mapping my HOTAS for Sierras Red Baron.
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