Ok I finally saw this tonight and I have one question.

How did a xeno get onboard the colony ship near the end of the film?

The guy who had half his face burned could not have been infected. The face hugger that got on him was almost immediately removed and even if he was infected there's no way the chestbuster could have grown so quickly into a drone.

I agree with another SimHQ member who said that just like Prometheus, this story required people making too many stupid mistakes in order to "work".

I give this movie a rating of 6 out of 10.



Anyway, this is both funny and quite on the mark.

They made mistake in that they wanted to explain plot holes in Prometheus but they ended up with even bigger plot holes. I think that they need to drop whole engineers story crap and concentrate on alien horror survival thingy

Fox should have just made a big screen adaptation of Alien: Isolation instead. Seriously.

Unfortunately, that is exactly what was implied. Two things: 1) the alert that sounded had the medbay as the source of an unknown lifeform--exactly where the guy with the burns was. Its a quick glimpse but I recall there is a body covered in blood that looks like the chest has blown out. 2) The xeno that bursts out of the captain did not take too long either--so I assume the same for the guy with the burns. I guess the facefugger was able to snap one off just in time.

I think the problem with these movies is that Prometheus was intended (by Scott) to be an ancient astronauts themed movie with fan service to the Alien franchise. Originally it was to be directly based on Alien. Now Covenant is trying to fill in the story between the original and new universes.

For illogical decisions, what about the woman that gets killed by the neomorph in the temple? She knows there is potential pathogen and yet she goes and splashes her face with water from a basin. Like WTH?

That was most definitely lazy writing. I guess they couldn't think of a better way to get her separated and alone in order to be killed via cliche' horror B movie style.

I watched "Alien" when it came out many years ago - it was a good movie but you can only get just so much gas from a theme about ugly, face hugging, chest busting critters

The first two films are bonafide classics. Everything after that was pure cash cow milking.

Did you catch the Blade Runner reference?


When David gets stabbed under the chin by the Ripley 2.0 wannabe, he yells out "That's the spirit!". That's what Roy said to Deckard after Deckard smacked him in the head with the pipe.

Sorry, not that familiar with Blade Runner....

Also, LOL on the TM WH being their joystick @ 1:26 in the honest trailer. Then there's this:


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For this sort of thing my answer is...

Disengage brain...watch film...enjoy!

I rate this as a 7/10,possibly more.I will need to re-watch it a few times.

Do the aliens die in the vacuum of space? Or can they survive as long as they're in an egg form or something?

It's been established from the very first film that the xenos can live in the vaccuum of space at least for a short while.

wasn't a fan of this movie at all, left feeling they just left too much out of it.

I enjoyed Covenant and I enjoyed Prometheus too. But its fun to over think nerd topics afterwards--keeps the brain functioning.

Almost all films have to make some concessions in order to make a story work but then there are also films with flat out lazy uninspired writing. IMHO, Covenant has the latter.

What I want to know if why Weyland-Yutani wants the alien so bad. It doesn't make sense to use as a weapon...So you bomb a plant with eggs or something, so what, what are you supposed to do, the surface would be crawling with these things--you couldn't just move in. Plus who are humans so heavy armed against in the Alien universe? There don't seem to be other intelligent life to compete against--at least that humans are aware of. Are there opposing human factions out in space? I suppose if you could develop the alien into some type of combat drone style weapon maybe that would be something. But it seems like an elaborate plan for a simple payoff especially as it seems there is no real threat out there. The engineers seem like their gone or their decadents have regressed back into a more primitive society.

Covenant seemed to try to flesh this out a bit with the Advent special edition scene--I hate these back story scenes BTW they add a lot to the movie but only a limited number of people you actively have in interest in this will ever see it--that seems to suggest a higher purpose to the whole xeno/pathogen created lifeforms. David says that in following his research there will be no going back and his "creatures" will rule the galaxy. But if that's the case why pursue it if it means the end of the human race? Why have a galaxy of xenos--they don't seem intelligent beyond a predators abilities at killing.

And lastly, I have always found it remarkable at the complete lack of surprise or awe that the characters in any of the Alien movies express at discovering any of these things. Like in Alien, there is no "first contact" excitement at discovering the derelict or in any of the other movies--even in Covenant there is no dialogue on seeing the remains of the engineer (or whoever they were) civilization. Finding non-earth life does not register with these people? Even in Alien Isolation the part where the crew finds the derelict there is discussion of a first contact situation its simply "we have salvage rights". What?

Ripley said it best in Aliens, "I don't know which species is worse, Burke but you don't see them *$^%$U& each other for a *^&(%( percentage."

Billions of neutrinos pass through the Earth, every second.

There's no reason, whatsoever, that a ship could be compromised by these ultra low mass, non-interacting particles.