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#4340994 - 02/28/17 10:06 AM Re: What happened to the original SB? [Re: rezerekted]  
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Thank you for the kind words. And given your history as a Panzer Elite modder I suppose you have an idea about the amount of work that goes into development, so that carries some extra significance. smile

I don't think I need to repeat myself as to why we went for contemporary tanks rather than WW2. My interests simply are what they are, and going contemporary allows us to subsidize the PE development. WIthout that we would have long closed the company and ceased all development on Steel Beasts. Anything WW2 by necessity is art or entertainment and that just doesn't make enough money to sustain simulation development (unless, maybe, you adopt a micropayment system like WoT ... but then you apparently need to cut back the simulation elements as well to make it interesting enough for a sufficient number of people).


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#4341162 - 02/28/17 10:29 PM Re: What happened to the original SB? [Re: Ssnake]  
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Originally Posted by Ssnake
Thank you for the kind words. And given your history as a Panzer Elite modder I suppose you have an idea about the amount of work that goes into development, so that carries some extra significance. smile

I don't think I need to repeat myself as to why we went for contemporary tanks rather than WW2. My interests simply are what they are, and going contemporary allows us to subsidize the PE development. WIthout that we would have long closed the company and ceased all development on Steel Beasts. Anything WW2 by necessity is art or entertainment and that just doesn't make enough money to sustain simulation development (unless, maybe, you adopt a micropayment system like WoT ... but then you apparently need to cut back the simulation elements as well to make it interesting enough for a sufficient number of people).



How about adding in a couple of WW2 Tanks per new update and charge a little more for the update to cover the costs.
A lot of WW2 armour was utilised post WW2 T34s shermans were still in service in third world armies and paramilitary up in till the nineties.

#4341198 - 03/01/17 01:01 AM Re: What happened to the original SB? [Re: rezerekted]  
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I'm not categorically ruling all this out, but to be honest it's more of a diversion than anything else. I see a serious danger to dilute our development capacity and to create a false impression about what SB Pro is about. As soon as the first Sherman is in, people will scream for a Panther and a Panzer IV (both of which, arguably, saw some post WW2 battlefield use). Features create their own demand dynamic. At the same time our actual business is the polar opposite, armored warfare of today and the next ten years rather than the last ten, or from 60 years ago.


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#4341922 - 03/03/17 09:50 PM Re: What happened to the original SB? [Re: rezerekted]  
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I'd give a kidney and my right arm for some WW2 armor in Steel Beasts, but I can understand Ssnake's reluctance to go down that path. It really is developing for a completely different battlespace than what SB currently models. Maybe once esim makes its billions, they can start a spinoff studio focusing on WW2!

#4341936 - 03/03/17 10:54 PM Re: What happened to the original SB? [Re: rezerekted]  
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Okay, that's a figure I can work with. "Billions". I promise, the day that I made my second billion I'll launch that project.




Your right arm, and a kidney. Duly noted.


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#4341985 - 03/04/17 02:45 AM Re: What happened to the original SB? [Re: Ssnake]  
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Originally Posted by Ssnake
Okay, that's a figure I can work with. "Billions". I promise, the day that I made my second billion I'll launch that project.




Your right arm, and a kidney. Duly noted.



I fully appreciate the addition of WW2 Tanks is not a priority for esim.
And accept it would be a time consuming project.
But i also genuinely believe it would be beneficial for PE version sales.
As it would attract WW2 armour fans.
Panzer elite and other WW2 titles are showing there age and limitations.
I will concede it may not be financial viable to create a dedicated WW2 add on.
But as suggested in my previous post adding two or three Tanks per update with a additional fee to cover costs mite be a viable alternative.

#4342001 - 03/04/17 08:34 AM Re: What happened to the original SB? [Re: rezerekted]  
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The deal is made. Two billions, his right arm, and a kidney.


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#4342014 - 03/04/17 12:33 PM Re: What happened to the original SB? [Re: Ssnake]  
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I can have a right arm and a kidney by tonight.
Will you take weekly installments for the two billion. Lol

#4342020 - 03/04/17 02:07 PM Re: What happened to the original SB? [Re: Ssnake]  
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Originally Posted by Ssnake
The deal is made. Two billions, his right arm, and a kidney.


Hope he's a left-hand, otherwise playing those WW2 tanks can be become a challenge ;-)


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#4342070 - 03/04/17 10:00 PM Re: What happened to the original SB? [Re: marko1231123]  
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Originally Posted by marko1231123

I can have a right arm and a kidney by tonight.

Not "a" kidney and "a" right arm. Rambler made the offer, only he can fulfill it.

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Will you take weekly installments for the two billion. Lol

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#4342225 - 03/05/17 09:02 PM Re: What happened to the original SB? [Re: Rambler]  
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Originally Posted by Rambler
I'd give a kidney and my right arm for some WW2 armor in Steel Beasts, but I can understand Ssnake's reluctance to go down that path. It really is developing for a completely different battlespace than what SB currently models. Maybe once esim makes its billions, they can start a spinoff studio focusing on WW2!


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#4342256 - 03/06/17 12:13 AM Re: What happened to the original SB? [Re: rezerekted]  
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Why would I want a second right arm?


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#4342321 - 03/06/17 01:33 PM Re: What happened to the original SB? [Re: Ssnake]  
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Originally Posted by Ssnake
Why would I want a second right arm?

You getting cheap man. Arms , kidneys? There were time when the "soul of a first born" was a low as you'd go in price...


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#4342333 - 03/06/17 03:40 PM Re: What happened to the original SB? [Re: rezerekted]  
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...they mentioned billions. Much more practical than souls.



The organ donations are a nice bonus, though.


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#4342422 - 03/06/17 08:11 PM Re: What happened to the original SB? [Re: rezerekted]  
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lmao, you guys. One of my kidneys and my right arm is all yours, Ssnake. I'll send them immediately upon esim's acquiring of 2 billion dollars and establishment of a ww2 tank sim studio.

Originally Posted by Ronin
Hope he's a left-hand, otherwise playing those WW2 tanks can be become a challenge ;-)


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#4342423 - 03/06/17 08:13 PM Re: What happened to the original SB? [Re: rezerekted]  
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Yeah... we're just kidding. Right.


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#4353380 - 04/25/17 12:57 PM Re: What happened to the original SB? [Re: rezerekted]  
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Hello to all Steel Beast Legacy fans

I have created my tribute website to Steel Beasts 1.226/Steel Beasts Legacy/Gold, from now onwards referred to as SB1 in this post.

My glorious website, dedicated to the best Tank Sim, outside of Steel Beasts Pro PE, is at http://www.moodurian.com/sb. It's in its infancy so go ahead and have a hearty laugh (or cry) if you want to when you see it. In future I may change the domain name to http://ww.sabotup.com/sb or something more appropriate. I am open to suggestions.

The main purpose of the website is to discuss all things SB1. Unless I am wrong, I will end up discussing with myself as 99.976% of Steel Beasters have transitioned to Steel Beasts Pro PE. Come on, it's been 17 years since year 2000. For discussion and support issues, I have created a forum at http://www.moodurian.com/sb/forum.

A word on SB1 support. As the world of serious tank simming has moved ahead since the dark ages of 2000, and NOW revolves around Steel Beasts Pro PE, I have taken upon myself the noble mantle of SB1 support. In one fell swoop, I have relieved eSimGames of any SB1 support that would distract them from developing and supporting SB Pro PE. No need to thank me, Herr Ssnake. Mein Kapitan, I consider it an honour and my sacred duty.

If you have a question about SB1 you can ask me. I will try my hardest to answer it. If I do not know the answer, and if the manual is silent, then the answer is out there ... somewhere. Hopefully the miniscule SB1 community will provide the answer.

For the record, I play Steel Beasts Pro PE 4.019. Every sane gamer will say that SB Pro PE is a galaxy way-ahead of its year 2000 ancestor in every aspect. I whole heartedly agree. Which tank simulation can model a CV9035 with all its modes of weaponery? Only Steel Beasts Pro PE! Yet, an 'old' froggie like me likes to fire up SB1 once in a while. Why? Because the sounds in SB1 are still great and I die just as fast.

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#4370962 - 07/25/17 08:09 PM Re: What happened to the original SB? [Re: rezerekted]  
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Cheers Frankie, heading over to register now!

#4375276 - 08/18/17 11:27 PM Re: What happened to the original SB? [Re: rezerekted]  
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Hello Frankie,

nice website you made!!!

I have also registred. I still love old combat sims like the old Jane's series, the Microprose stuff and of course Steel Beasts Gold. I have Steel Beasts Pro Pe 4.019 too, but hadn't much time for simming since I bought it. I'm working at my home cockpit at the moment, so I could not play very much.

Cheers Viper

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