hahahaha ahahahaha thanks for laugh

Honestly I'm of the opposite opinion. Ideally I'd have all my combat and GA flying in one sim.

I actually know someone who might make this their main module. I introduced DCS to a few people, but the only one willing to stick with it wanted an aerobatics plane.

That has to be a troll surely?

Doesn't appear to be:

Atleast its better now with dead servers only certain times of day where it a few years ago was dead servers pretty much all week except weekends..... does that clear your confusion?

And its doing pretty good for being a sim, i notice lower online activety in il BOX...

I think I'm done TBH.

And what is the combat capability of this aircraft??



Interesting read on the comments on that video... And they're not really to the developer's favor.



If they could make a $1 profit from it, I'm sure they'll come up with something.



If you want GA, why in God's green Earth would you even look at DCS? What is the selection of GA aircraft? What is the selection of airports? Are there any GA traffic? Why hope for a future with ED when you can have what you want in the present with other sims?

As for your pal that wanted an aerobatics airplane, do you think he'd stick with DCS when FSX/P3D/XP11 exists?



I fail to see how server count has any bearing on anything. Would you rather have 100 servers with 5 people or 20 servers with 25 people? You also mentioned you don't like flying in certain servers anyway.... so again, I fail to see how this matters. I'd rather fly in 2-3 servers and have a good time than fly in 10 servers but make compromises in my fun.



And how many other civvie aircraft exists in the DCS environment?



Somebody please remove the imaginary limitations that are in place against DCS 2.5 and DCS Hornet. Tell the devs those are just imaginary. Thank you.



Imagine if this was released on FSX/P3D/XP11.... imagine how many hearts it would find its way into..... but no, let's release it for DCS!! Great idea!!

The primary reason why I want civil and military sims in the same package is convenience. I have XPlane 11 and FSX, but I fly DCS most often. A small annoyance is that the controls, options, and set up differ between the three Putting everything in one package solves this issue.

As for GA in DCS specifically, the aircraft is primarily what I want, and DCS accels at modeling aircraft. It's behind existing civil sims in a number of areas but it's very good for flight. Expanding the civil side of the sim also has to start somewhere.



Don't know. I demo'd DCS and X11, and suggested Aerofly; DCS is what ended up being played. It's probably because it had the best free demo. I'm the only remotely hardcore flight simmer that I know of personally, so we're talking about someone with a more casual aviation interest moving from car sims to flight.

What is the difference between clicking the XPlane 11 icon and clicking on the DCS icon in terms of convenience?
What is the difference between pulling on the yoke in XPlane 11 and pulling on the yoke in DCS in terms of convenience?
How many times do you set up your controls in civvie sims or in DCS that doing so in two or three different sims is inconvenient?



I fail to see the truth in this statement considering how XPlane calculates forces for flight.

I also fail to see how you can credit modelling in DCS when you have things like Carenado for civvie sims. While we can't say whether DCS is better or Carenado is better because they've not made a similar aircraft providing an apple-to-apple comparison, there is no denying DCS does good aircraft models and there is no denying Carenado does good aircraft models, so that kinda shuts down that argument....



Yeah, and to start a civvie section of DCS, we start out in dribs and drabs? Yay?



So you use your pal as an example.... but you don't even know if he stuck with DCS.... way to go proving your point!
Did you even get him to try FSX and XP11?

"Pick between A, B, or C"
"Um, C?"
"See guys? C is the best! My buddy picked it over A and B!!"

Not much, but it's some. It's why people wanted FC to be part of DCS World and for DCS WWII to be part of DCS World. I don't think many would argue that splitting aircraft into separate programs is beneficial.


Not too many, but it can be easy to mix up commands between sims, or one could just have a much more intuitive control scheme.



Just because XPlane does physics well doesn't mean that DCS doesn't. XPlane and DCS probably don't differ very much in this respect anyway. DCS just uses precalculated values(although there is less info on what it does compared to XPlane) instead of using the geometry to calculate the flow. Given that Xplane is going to lose some accuracy since it's a simplification of the physics, the fact that it's actually making calculations off geometry doesn't necessarily make it the better sim. It does allow it to have the Plane Maker, which is a really neat feature.


This goes with what I said above. They're both good.


I guess, but that's how most things start. You get less at first and more later. Seems fine to me. The rest of the DCS line up and XPlane aren't going anywhere while I wait.




I think you misunderstand. Some random person picking C isn't going to indicate C being the best, I just happened to know someone who would probably like the module. It might even lead to increased interest in DCS.

I never heard of this developer MAGNITUDE 3 LLC and why is it posting a video in that Leatherneck channel ?

It's all to do with the Leatherneck split a while ago

the split from Beczl.

Target drone?

It can fly into flocks of seagulls

LOL!!


I see the point in joining FC3 and WWII into DCS as all three are combat flight simulations. Why bring civvie ops into a combat flight simulation? What convenience would that bring especially considering FSX/P3D/XP11 exists?

Even if ED did decide to bring in civvie flight operartions, considering ED's development schedule, will it really be able to compete with P3D version 30 or XPlane 55?



And for that, you want to reinvent the wheel? Also, have you seen XP11's controller setup page? Compare that to DCS?



XPlane goes off from the actual geometry of the aircraft. You could probably model a brick but give it precalculated values and it will fly in DCS. I don't see how that proves your point.

XPlane goes off from the actual shape of the flight surfaces, so the modelling is very important... and that's why you have Plane Maker. DCS goes off from the precalculated values so it is those pre-set numbers that are important..... where can you make a model in DCS? I don't see how that proves your point.

You were talking about models and I've just shown how models are actually more important in XP than in DCS.
You were talking about flight and I've just shown how XP can claim more realism than DCS.



So why reinvent the wheel just so that you can click on one icon instead of having two icons to choose from on your desktop?



Show me a civvie sim that starts off with ONE aircraft...... and not even the basic or staple training aircraft but rather a complex aerobatic aircraft instead?



Why wait when you can have both NOW? Also, some would argue that by the time you get what you want in DCS, you may be struggling with bad eyesight and arthritis at that point, plus having to pause the sim many times during a flight to go to the toilet



You were making your point poorly.





So you were trying to make a case for DCS and CEII because you introduced DCS to a few people and the only bite you got wanted an aerobatics plane..... but you don't know if he'll stick with DCS, you didn't get him to play other sims to compare, and now the point is there MIGHT be someone who PROBABLY likes the module?

For all you know, you tried to introduce other people to DCS and they didn't play it because they were ALREADY involved in simulations that catered properly to civilian aviation, namely FSX/P3D/XP11..... so there is absolutely no case for DCS in this scenario.

All right, don't laugh. But it did say something about it being a "gift" from ED. A gift is something that someone GIVES to you. You don't pay for it. What if (DON'T LAUGH!) this really is going to be a gift. What if it turns up free with the next patch? I'm serious. Could that be? This probably didn't take a whole lot of man hours to build. No weapons systems or complex avionics. Looks like a really nice little model. All right, I'm finished. Now you can laugh.

Nope, the one within the team which happened this year. Technically, there is no Leatherneck anymore, but M3 still uses the old website and yt channel name.