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#4373469 - 08/09/17 11:54 AM Re: Game of Thrones : Season 7 [Spoilers] [Re: WhoCares]  
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Originally Posted by WhoCares
As per GoT TV show, Ser Jorah Mormont has a history with the Golden Company, while in the books there is no such direct reference.
(Season 4) When Jorah Mormont advises Daenerys Targaryen not to trust Daario Naharis because he is a sellsword, she points out that he himself fought for the Golden Company before pledging his sword to her brother Viserys.

Maybe he can use his connections to fool up Cerceis plans with the GC...


Good point, and I began to have similar thoughts. While the showrunners ommited large book chunks from the plot, they have shown a tendency to let some of those creep back into their story in some other form, or have given a certain story arc to another, already established character (for example, show-Sansa got parts of poor Jeyne Poole's sad story arc from the books).

Book "spoiler" ahead; remember, though, that even though the show is technically "ahead" of the books, they contain still a lot of plot elements so far untouched by the TV show, that may yet become relevant in some form in future episodes. So, click with care. wink

They gave some of the Jon "Griff" Connington story to Jorah - so far, the journey to Mereen with Tyrion, and the Greyscale - and it stands to reason that he will become involved with the Golden Company, to aid Dany. My guess is that he will steal the gold from Cersei/ the Iron Bank and use it to hire the Golden Company. In "ADWD", Connington did hire the Golden Company and took a couple of castles in Westeros.


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#4373470 - 08/09/17 12:02 PM Re: Game of Thrones : Season 7 [Spoilers] [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer


Anyway, back to GOT. So when will Danaerys "bend the knee" for Jon Snow? wink


I don't think he will, at least until the whole White Walkers thing has been handled.

And Dany is wrong, he is not acting out of pride. He is just doing a piss poor job of explaining himself to her. smile Jon doesn't need a Hand, he needs a communications director. smile

If he'd bent the knee now, he would be obliged to do her bidding (or be considered a traitor if he refused), which would involve actively participating in her war against the Lannisters. His troops in the North are already spread too thin as it is, and he can't afford to send even one of them south.

He will definitely need to find a way soon to convince Dany and the rest of Westeros that the White Walker threat is real, though (as if the birth of Dany's dragons and all the resurging magic didn't give the people enough hints that something is very, very wrong reading ). The only living eyewitnesses are Jon, Sam, the survivors of Hardhome, Bran and Meera. The rest of Westeros probably considers all of that "fake news". smile

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If GoT were a romcom, Dany would bend the knee to Jon in the end, proposing to him. smile

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#4373514 - 08/09/17 02:47 PM Re: Game of Thrones : Season 7 [Spoilers] [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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The last episode was the most watched episode of the series to date. This ratings juggernaut is just incredible and unprecedented.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/weekly-ratings/cable-top-25-for-july-31-aug-6-2017/


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#4373531 - 08/09/17 04:01 PM Re: Game of Thrones : Season 7 [Spoilers] [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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#4373622 - 08/10/17 05:42 AM Re: Game of Thrones : Season 7 [Spoilers] [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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This is great! I've decided to stop watching the show this year and read the spoilers here instead. With that I can get briefly cranky at all the potholes and bad writing from the showrunners instead of fuming during entire episodes (and for a while after them). Maybe one day I'll be able to finally read GRRR Martin's actual plot and compare that to what I've read here about the show's plot. From what I read here it really doesn't look good where the show is heading - it might make great scenes to watch, but story wise I'm not convinced. Now if only GRRR could hurry up a bit...

#4373623 - 08/10/17 05:51 AM Re: Game of Thrones : Season 7 [Spoilers] [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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Wanna bet Drogons arrow hit was poisoned and he dies up north fighting with Blondie and Jon,hence why we see the Night king in one of the early promo shots riding a dragon?

#4373653 - 08/10/17 12:48 PM Re: Game of Thrones : Season 7 [Spoilers] [Re: Jayhawk]  
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Originally Posted by Jayhawk
[quote=PanzerMeyer]


Edit:
If GoT were a romcom, Dany would bend the knee to Jon in the end, proposing to him. smile



propose to her nephew? ewwww

#4373662 - 08/10/17 01:10 PM Re: Game of Thrones : Season 7 [Spoilers] [Re: Falstar]  
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Originally Posted by Falstar
Originally Posted by Jayhawk
[quote=PanzerMeyer]


Edit:
If GoT were a romcom, Dany would bend the knee to Jon in the end, proposing to him. smile



propose to her nephew? ewwww


They're Targaryens*! From their POV, Jon and Dany may as well be completely unrelated. wink


*[Targaryens had a history of marrying off brothers and sisters - to each other]

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#4373677 - 08/10/17 02:15 PM Re: Game of Thrones : Season 7 [Spoilers] [Re: Jayhawk]  
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Originally Posted by Jayhawk
Originally Posted by Falstar
Originally Posted by Jayhawk
[quote=PanzerMeyer]


Edit:
If GoT were a romcom, Dany would bend the knee to Jon in the end, proposing to him. smile



propose to her nephew? ewwww


They're Targaryens*! From their POV, Jon and Dany may as well be completely unrelated. wink


*[Targaryens had a history of marrying off brothers and sisters - to each other]



And yet, even they whisper and chuckle about Jamie and Cersei. Ahh the good ole double standard. lol

#4373678 - 08/10/17 02:19 PM Re: Game of Thrones : Season 7 [Spoilers] [Re: Falstar]  
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Originally Posted by Falstar
And yet, even they whisper and chuckle about Jamie and Cersei. Ahh the good ole double standard. lol



Do any of the Targaryens know about the relationship between Jamie and Cersei?


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#4373700 - 08/10/17 04:26 PM Re: Game of Thrones : Season 7 [Spoilers] [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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Jon doesn't need a Hand, he needs a communications director.


He has one.

But The Onion Knight isn't very good at it.

"This is Jon Snow. He's, um, well, King In The North, so there's that." smile

Instead he should have gotten "Jon Snow, In-numerous of his name, Son of Ned Stark, Leader of The Knight's Watch, Protector of The Wall, White Walker Slayer, Lord of Winterfell, King In The North and Protector of the Realm."

Every good commander needs a solid Sergeant Major, but shouldn't have them have them do the politics.

Did anyone else chuckle when they called their ballista the scorpion?

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But there was this Italian one from the 16th Century, also called a scorpion:

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Neither is quite up to GoT standards, though.


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#4373711 - 08/10/17 04:58 PM Re: Game of Thrones : Season 7 [Spoilers] [Re: Dart]  
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Originally Posted by Dart

"This is Jon Snow. He's, um, well, King In The North, so there's that." smile


I was actually laughing out loud during that scene. That was a great juxtaposition to Dany's tedious list of titles...and illustrated Ser Davos' opinion on that.

Originally Posted by Dart
Instead he should have gotten "Jon Snow, In-numerous of his name, Son of Ned Stark, Leader of The Knight's Watch, Protector of The Wall, White Walker Slayer, Lord of Winterfell, King In The North and Protector of the Realm."


Unbeknownst to Ser Davos, that would have lead to a lot of squirming when issuing a retraction of those "alternate facts", once Bran informs everyone that Jon is actually the son of Prince Rhaegar and Lyanna Stark. smile

Originally Posted by Dart
Every good commander needs a solid Sergeant Major, but shouldn't have them have them do the politics.


This is something that's decidedly absent from the series: a Sergeant-Major-type of lansquenet as a fleshed-out character: those that do the real fighting once the knights got their petty feuds out of the way smile

Originally Posted by Dart
Did anyone else chuckle when they called their ballista the scorpion?


Yup, I was a little puzzled about that term; I was also puzzled by Bronn's uncanny aiming ability, without any sights on that thing whatsoever. smile


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Originally Posted by Jayhawk
Yup, I was a little puzzled about that term; I was also puzzled by Bronn's uncanny aiming ability, without any sights on that thing whatsoever. smile





Well, he did miss on the first shot so he's not perfect!


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#4373714 - 08/10/17 05:21 PM Re: Game of Thrones : Season 7 [Spoilers] [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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Actually, it had a sight. It was an iron circle you aimed through. You see Bron lining the dragon up in it.

#4373716 - 08/10/17 05:34 PM Re: Game of Thrones : Season 7 [Spoilers] [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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You're right, there is one. Even though it looks fake as hell. smile

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#4374224 - 08/14/17 10:55 AM Re: Game of Thrones : Season 7 [Spoilers] [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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So what's going on between Littlefinger, Sansa and Arya? Something tells me that this development doesn't end well for all three of them.


Concerning Danaerys, I'm definitely getting a "messiah goes astray and leads her people to suffering and disaster" vibe. If you are familiar with the Dune universe, think of what happened with Paul and the Fremen and their "jihad" after the events of the first book.


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#4374260 - 08/14/17 03:04 PM Re: Game of Thrones : Season 7 [Spoilers] [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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Did anyone catch the important tidbit about Jon in this episode?

Gilly was reading from a book about the High Priest(?) and mentions the annulement of the marriage between "Ragger" (Raegar) and his wife, and a new "secret marriage in Dorne".

Basically Jon is the true heir to the Iron Throne as he is a child born in wedlock and not a #%&*$#

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Yep, and Little Finger got Arya to walk right into the whole thing. He's been playing this game a lot longer than her and used her very well. Arya's prideful, I think he saw that the week before in the duel while the rest were just thinking about her skills.


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#4374284 - 08/14/17 05:11 PM Re: Game of Thrones : Season 7 [Spoilers] [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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So now we have the "Dirty Dozen" heading up north of the wall to go on a suicidal mission to capture a dead walker soldier "alive". biggrin


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