#4369446 - 07/16/17 01:01 PM
48 years ago, today...
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#4369448 - 07/16/17 01:31 PM
Re: 48 years ago, today...
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Yeah man. I was on the beach about 20 miles south when it lifted off.
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#4369451 - 07/16/17 01:58 PM
Re: 48 years ago, today...
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Sad how little manned spaceflight has progressed since.
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#4369531 - 07/17/17 12:33 AM
Re: 48 years ago, today...
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I was in Viet Nam didn't get to see it for awhile,,Got a radio message the We had men on the moon..Later that night the skies were clear and looked at the moon in a different way,,Sotrta like a Forrest Gump moment I was there from December of 1968 to Dec of 1969, so we were in country at least during the same event. I remember the news, but it was pretty secondary to the experience at hand. I barely remember any of it now. Cheers
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#4369719 - 07/18/17 03:33 AM
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Sad how little manned spaceflight has progressed since. I strongly disagree. First, we sent people to the moon nine times. We brought back something like 800 pounds of moon rock/dust/etc. At that point there's not much more to gain sending people there. Second: Going to Mars would be the logical next step, but before you do that you need to seriously gain some knowledge and experience with having people in space for months at a time. To do that you need an orbiting space station. To really build said station you need a Space Shuttle. Then you spend YEARS in that phase. Which has been (and is still being) done. Around the end of that phase you start working on your actual rockets/spacecraft that will be used for that manned Mars mission. Which has been (and is still being) done. Going to the moon is peanuts compared to going to Mars. It's probably an even bigger difference than comparing a trip across town in a Model T versus cross country in an airliner. Granted we probably could have achieved it faster if more money had been thrown at it, but going to the moon was a literal national priority at the time. Mars, not so much. But ironically with all that said I think sending people to Mars in THIS century is a waste of money. We're on the cusp of an age of unlocking technological knowledge at a rate the world has never seen, so in my opinion it's better to wait for the inevitable newer tech - because it's coming. Materials, computers, all of it's about to explode like nothing seen in all of history.
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#4369725 - 07/18/17 04:26 AM
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Sad how little manned spaceflight has progressed since. I strongly disagree. First, we sent people to the moon nine times. We brought back something like 800 pounds of moon rock/dust/etc. At that point there's not much more to gain sending people there. So if early European explorers had visited North America nine times they would have learned all there is to know about the continent? The moon's surface is roughly comparable to Asia, we've only explored 6 small areas, all very close to the equator and all on the near side, we've not sent humans to the far side nor the polar regions. There is much more to be learned by further lunar exploration.
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#4369729 - 07/18/17 05:15 AM
Re: 48 years ago, today...
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Sad how little manned spaceflight has progressed since. I strongly disagree. First, we sent people to the moon nine times. We brought back something like 800 pounds of moon rock/dust/etc. At that point there's not much more to gain sending people there. So if early European explorers had visited North America nine times they would have learned all there is to know about the continent? The moon's surface is roughly comparable to Asia, we've only explored 6 small areas, all very close to the equator and all on the near side, we've not sent humans to the far side nor the polar regions. There is much more to be learned by further lunar exploration. The surface of the earth has diversity and variances orders of magnitude (MANY) beyond the surface of the moon. You could travel the whole moon and not find much new information. That's not to say I'm some anti-science person, it'd be GREAT if we could go and learn more there. But reality is what it is, and your analogy is, with no offense, extremely weak.
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#4369736 - 07/18/17 06:43 AM
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Hasn't the moon been considered a dead rock with not much to offer besides records of a long past history ? On the other hand, there has been much talk about using the moon as a launch pad for space exploration, avoiding the earth's gravity pull right from lift off.
Wonder what happened to that theory !
Cheers, Slug
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#4369747 - 07/18/17 09:31 AM
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there has been much talk about using the moon as a launch pad for space exploration, avoiding the earth's gravity pull right from lift off.
Wonder what happened to that theory !
Cheers, Slug
Well, you don't. In interplanetary scales the moon is still well within the Earth's gravity - after all, it's the Earth that holds the moon in orbit, and the moon isn't exactly a lightweight object. That theory is more of a "staging" thing. Like many rockets - rather than have one big huge fuel tank carried all the way you break it up into stages. Big huge first stage, burn off fuel, ditch that heavy tank, ignite second stage on much lighter craft..... Adding a second launch point from another gravity source (the moon) isn't going to make sense from a purely energetic standpoint. Where it COULD make sense is if you have some kind of BASE on the moon. It's still going to be more energetically expensive, but sometimes it's just easier to pay for fuel.......
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#4369770 - 07/18/17 02:10 PM
Re: 48 years ago, today...
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Oh well, you just crushed my dreams for an easy solution to intergalactic exploration !
Cheers, Slug
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#4369796 - 07/18/17 04:15 PM
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I think the moon would be useful as a sort of proving ground for Mars mission/colony technology. It's subject to far colder and far hotter temps than Mars is, it gets hit with higher radiation levels than Mars does, and in case of an emergency it's only 3 days away from LEO. Plus, being composed of part of earth it has the same elements and minerals so habitats & equipment for both lunar and Martian settlements could be built there, along with boosters and fuel to send them on their way to Mars. It may not require less fuel, but it won't require more, either.
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