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#4367367 - 07/04/17 02:07 AM ...now let's get down to business.  
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#4367369 - 07/04/17 02:24 AM Re: Giggles n' Laughs, Just for the fun of it [Re: OldHat]  
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I say, lieutenant, that's a nice idea, come back and see me once you've made the plane invisible, too...

#4367370 - 07/04/17 02:32 AM Re: Giggles n' Laughs, Just for the fun of it [Re: OldHat]  
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Aw c'mon, don't tease us wink


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16 GB RAM
42 inch Sharp Aquos LCD TV with 120hz refresh
Very old (over 20 years now) Aiwa Receiver/Amplifier
Very old giant stereo speakers with newer sub-woofer
Very old Logitech Wingman joystick with two buttons and a throttle slider
Very old CH Thurstmaster analog footpedals
Manhattan analog/USB converter
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#4367530 - 07/05/17 02:23 AM Re: Giggles n' Laughs, Just for the fun of it [Re: OldHat]  
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Sorry, it's not meant to tease, this was a fun experiment I always wanted to try. So, I've managed to get it to fly inside WOFF, but with the Morane L's flight mechanics. Still trying to figure things out myself here as well.

#4367558 - 07/05/17 10:27 AM Re: Giggles n' Laughs, Just for the fun of it [Re: OldHat]  
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Originally Posted by OldHat
Sorry, it's not meant to tease, this was a fun experiment I always wanted to try. So, I've managed to get it to fly inside WOFF, but with the Morane L's flight mechanics. Still trying to figure things out myself here as well.


Cool, to see you have made that much headway OldHat!!


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Case: Cooler Master Storm Trooper
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MB: Asus Maximus VI Extreme
Mem: Corsair Vengeance (2x 8GB), PC3-12800, DDR3-1600MHz, Unbuffered
CPU: Intel i7-4770K, OC to 4.427Ghz
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Vid Card: ASUS GTX 980Ti STRIX 6GB
OS and Games on separate: Samsung 840 Series 250GB SSD
Monitor: Primary ASUS PG27AQ 4k; Secondary Samsung SyncMaster BX2450L
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#4367596 - 07/05/17 01:54 PM Re: Giggles n' Laughs, Just for the fun of it [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Originally Posted by Robert_Wiggins
Originally Posted by OldHat
Sorry, it's not meant to tease, this was a fun experiment I always wanted to try. So, I've managed to get it to fly inside WOFF, but with the Morane L's flight mechanics. Still trying to figure things out myself here as well.


Cool, to see you have made that much headway OldHat!!


Indeed!

Regards,

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WOFF:UE Computer Specs and set-up:
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Intel i5-3570k mildly overclocked to 3.8ghz
AsRock Z75 mobo
Nvidia GTX 1060 6GB (EVGA one fan version)
16 GB RAM
42 inch Sharp Aquos LCD TV with 120hz refresh
Very old (over 20 years now) Aiwa Receiver/Amplifier
Very old giant stereo speakers with newer sub-woofer
Very old Logitech Wingman joystick with two buttons and a throttle slider
Very old CH Thurstmaster analog footpedals
Manhattan analog/USB converter
W10
#4367696 - 07/06/17 02:58 AM Re: Giggles n' Laughs, Just for the fun of it [Re: OldHat]  
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Skinning was a pain and seems wrong, looks like a ball of wires with wings and flys terrible. Must be a Farman.


#4367794 - 07/06/17 06:50 PM Re: Giggles n' Laughs, Just for the fun of it [Re: OldHat]  
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Man, that is beautiful! Even though I know it is a WIP, I always thought it would be wonderful to have these earlier planes available for training purposes (or even a 1914 [!] campaign). I feel that your work is a possible first step, but I'm also quite aware of the huge amount of work it takes to make it happen...still, a static Farman placed at Sutton's Farm (or other British aerodromes) would be a wonderful touch!

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Homebuilt Computer!
Intel i5-3570k mildly overclocked to 3.8ghz
AsRock Z75 mobo
Nvidia GTX 1060 6GB (EVGA one fan version)
16 GB RAM
42 inch Sharp Aquos LCD TV with 120hz refresh
Very old (over 20 years now) Aiwa Receiver/Amplifier
Very old giant stereo speakers with newer sub-woofer
Very old Logitech Wingman joystick with two buttons and a throttle slider
Very old CH Thurstmaster analog footpedals
Manhattan analog/USB converter
W10
#4368132 - 07/09/17 05:48 AM Re: Giggles n' Laughs, Just for the fun of it [Re: OldHat]  
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I agree and changed my mind about the Farman. In fact, I started to put together the longhorn and I kindda enjoyed it. So much that I adjusted all the wires n' stuff to make sure it looks about right. Wow! what a sight at early sunrise to see all those wire and strut shadows on the cockpit. Even without the prop animation, it looks awesome and the video doesn't do it enough justice. Anyone have a few hours to spare to work on its flight model "xfm file"? -doesn't need to be perfect, just want to see the outcome in WOFF.


#4368133 - 07/09/17 05:59 AM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OldHat]  
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Good luck, OldHat, that looks super!
Sorry I can not help since I am working on four projects simultneously now smile .

#4368170 - 07/09/17 03:02 PM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OldHat]  
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OldHat;

The creation of the ".xfm" files for an aircraft are relatively simple. It's the collection of relevant data pertaining to the aircraft that is the heavier task.
I have messed with these ".xfm" files and have some familiarity with them. I could help you if you have the necessary historical data to feed into the file.

PM me if you wish to dialogue on the process

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#4368171 - 07/09/17 03:04 PM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OldHat]  
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What Witchcraft is this ?


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#4368174 - 07/09/17 03:44 PM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: Shredward]  
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Originally Posted by Shredward
What Witchcraft is this ?


He He!!


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CPU: Intel i7-4770K, OC to 4.427Ghz
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OS and Games on separate: Samsung 840 Series 250GB SSD
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#4368176 - 07/09/17 04:13 PM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: Shredward]  
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Originally Posted by Shredward
What Witchcraft is this ?

I would have to say this is more of a sorcery than witchcraft.


"Take the cylinder out of my kidneys,
The connecting rod out of my brain, my brain,
From out of my arse take the camshaft,
And assemble the engine again."
#4368188 - 07/09/17 04:56 PM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OldHat]  
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Awesome project.

#4368211 - 07/09/17 08:01 PM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OldHat]  
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I have the data, if anyone wants it
Cheers,
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#4368212 - 07/09/17 08:04 PM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OldHat]  
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#4368219 - 07/09/17 09:45 PM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OldHat]  
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#4368233 - 07/09/17 11:20 PM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OldHat]  
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I appreciate the assistance guys and I'll take both offers to help with this project.

Shred and Robert, I'd like to start with the longhorn to complement my training missions and see how things work out. Also, now I really like the MF.7 for some strange reason. Robert, once you are able to get the fm ready, I'd be glad to test it out and we can continue via PM for sure.

#4368234 - 07/09/17 11:55 PM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OldHat]  
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Did I miss the super nova here OldHat?
Are you making (new) planes from scratch??

#4368236 - 07/09/17 11:55 PM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OldHat]  
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#4368237 - 07/09/17 11:57 PM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OldHat]  
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OldHat, Did you model this or modify something existing? I've been wanting to do this forever but was unsure how to go about the process for bringing it into WOFF. If you have time in the near future sir, I'd love to pick your brain! I'm fairly tech savvy !

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#4368239 - 07/10/17 12:24 AM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OldHat]  
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Sure thing, guys. I'd be glad to share the love. However, I didn't make these from scratch, therefore, I'm waiting on permission to use the models from other Modders.

So, hang tight and by the time Robert and Shred are able to help with the fm and I can test it out, then I'll probably hear back from the modders at some point.

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#4368241 - 07/10/17 12:31 AM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OldHat]  
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WOFF:UE Computer Specs and set-up:
Homebuilt Computer!
Intel i5-3570k mildly overclocked to 3.8ghz
AsRock Z75 mobo
Nvidia GTX 1060 6GB (EVGA one fan version)
16 GB RAM
42 inch Sharp Aquos LCD TV with 120hz refresh
Very old (over 20 years now) Aiwa Receiver/Amplifier
Very old giant stereo speakers with newer sub-woofer
Very old Logitech Wingman joystick with two buttons and a throttle slider
Very old CH Thurstmaster analog footpedals
Manhattan analog/USB converter
W10
#4368242 - 07/10/17 01:03 AM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OldHat]  
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Just noticed it. Happy Birthday Robert Wiggins! happy_bday

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"Take the cylinder out of my kidneys,
The connecting rod out of my brain, my brain,
From out of my arse take the camshaft,
And assemble the engine again."
#4368247 - 07/10/17 01:15 AM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: Fullofit]  
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Originally Posted by Fullofit
Just noticed it. Happy Birthday Robert Wiggins! happy_bday


Thanks mate! Time marches on!!! I usually have only one question first thing in the morning. Who is that person staring back at me through the mirror??? nope


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Mem: Corsair Vengeance (2x 8GB), PC3-12800, DDR3-1600MHz, Unbuffered
CPU: Intel i7-4770K, OC to 4.427Ghz
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 240M Liquid CPU Cooler
Vid Card: ASUS GTX 980Ti STRIX 6GB
OS and Games on separate: Samsung 840 Series 250GB SSD
Monitor: Primary ASUS PG27AQ 4k; Secondary Samsung SyncMaster BX2450L
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#4368251 - 07/10/17 01:48 AM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Originally Posted by Robert_Wiggins

Thanks mate! Time marches on!!! I usually have only one question first thing in the morning. Who is that person staring back at me through the mirror??? nope

When I wake up it's too early for questions like this, but the answer to this one is easy: It's Alice without makeup.
Now back to the originally scheduled program. Thank you Gentlemen for your efforts. Hope OBD can make an add-on out of it!


"Take the cylinder out of my kidneys,
The connecting rod out of my brain, my brain,
From out of my arse take the camshaft,
And assemble the engine again."
#4368253 - 07/10/17 02:14 AM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: Fullofit]  
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Originally Posted by Fullofit
Originally Posted by Robert_Wiggins

Thanks mate! Time marches on!!! I usually have only one question first thing in the morning. Who is that person staring back at me through the mirror??? nope

When I wake up it's too early for questions like this, but the answer to this one is easy: It's Alice without makeup.
Now back to the originally scheduled program. Thank you Gentlemen for your efforts. Hope OBD can make an add-on out of it!


Damn, I nearly scared myself when I read your comment! I had a vision of "Alice" cooper!!


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Case: Cooler Master Storm Trooper
Pwr Sup: OCZ, GameXStream,1000-Watt
MB: Asus Maximus VI Extreme
Mem: Corsair Vengeance (2x 8GB), PC3-12800, DDR3-1600MHz, Unbuffered
CPU: Intel i7-4770K, OC to 4.427Ghz
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 240M Liquid CPU Cooler
Vid Card: ASUS GTX 980Ti STRIX 6GB
OS and Games on separate: Samsung 840 Series 250GB SSD
Monitor: Primary ASUS PG27AQ 4k; Secondary Samsung SyncMaster BX2450L
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#4368258 - 07/10/17 04:04 AM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Originally Posted by RAF28Jenks
Best wish Wiggins!!
Did you have some cake buddy?


Thanks for the wishes Jenks. Cake? Well, I much prefer pies but candles really don't work well on those, so I guess I will have to bite the cake instead! biggrin


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MB: Asus Maximus VI Extreme
Mem: Corsair Vengeance (2x 8GB), PC3-12800, DDR3-1600MHz, Unbuffered
CPU: Intel i7-4770K, OC to 4.427Ghz
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 240M Liquid CPU Cooler
Vid Card: ASUS GTX 980Ti STRIX 6GB
OS and Games on separate: Samsung 840 Series 250GB SSD
Monitor: Primary ASUS PG27AQ 4k; Secondary Samsung SyncMaster BX2450L
Periphs: MS Sidewinder FFB2 Pro, TrackIR 4

#4368357 - 07/10/17 02:56 PM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OldHat]  
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I'm working on the Flight model so hopefully I will have something soon.........(two weeks! ) biggrin


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Pwr Sup: OCZ, GameXStream,1000-Watt
MB: Asus Maximus VI Extreme
Mem: Corsair Vengeance (2x 8GB), PC3-12800, DDR3-1600MHz, Unbuffered
CPU: Intel i7-4770K, OC to 4.427Ghz
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 240M Liquid CPU Cooler
Vid Card: ASUS GTX 980Ti STRIX 6GB
OS and Games on separate: Samsung 840 Series 250GB SSD
Monitor: Primary ASUS PG27AQ 4k; Secondary Samsung SyncMaster BX2450L
Periphs: MS Sidewinder FFB2 Pro, TrackIR 4

#4368423 - 07/10/17 06:09 PM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OldHat]  
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Old Hat and Robert,

I also have some experience playing around with the .xfm files, so I may also be able to help out. The only problem is that I am fairly swamped right now with work, cloud mod, etc. so I don't know when I might be able to do much on my own at the moment. However, I would be more than willing to help with testing, feedback, and suggestions as time permits.

One question: since we don't have access to .cfg and .air files anymore, how do you control parasitic drag, for example? Perhaps Shredward or Polvoski can help out in that regard?

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Originally Posted by BuckeyeBob
Old Hat and Robert,

I also have some experience playing around with the .xfm files, so I may also be able to help out. The only problem is that I am fairly swamped right now with work, cloud mod, etc. so I don't know when I might be able to do much on my own at the moment. However, I would be more than willing to help with testing, feedback, and suggestions as time permits.

One question: since we don't have access to .cfg and .air files anymore, how do you control parasitic drag, for example? Perhaps Shredward or Polvoski can help out in that regard?



Good to know you have some expertise with .xfm files. I will probably PM you later.
On the matter of cfg and air files Iconcur with you. We shall see how far we can get.

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MB: Asus Maximus VI Extreme
Mem: Corsair Vengeance (2x 8GB), PC3-12800, DDR3-1600MHz, Unbuffered
CPU: Intel i7-4770K, OC to 4.427Ghz
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 240M Liquid CPU Cooler
Vid Card: ASUS GTX 980Ti STRIX 6GB
OS and Games on separate: Samsung 840 Series 250GB SSD
Monitor: Primary ASUS PG27AQ 4k; Secondary Samsung SyncMaster BX2450L
Periphs: MS Sidewinder FFB2 Pro, TrackIR 4

#4368442 - 07/10/17 06:56 PM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OldHat]  
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Originally Posted by OldHat
Skinning was a pain and seems wrong, looks like a ball of wires with wings and flys terrible. Must be a Farman.

Lacks only a pilot and a rotating prop. Will these be forthcoming? Also...I seemed to hear the huffing of a train, but never could see it. Was there really one there?


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#4368458 - 07/10/17 07:44 PM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Originally Posted by Robert_Wiggins
Originally Posted by BuckeyeBob
Old Hat and Robert,

I also have some experience playing around with the .xfm files, so I may also be able to help out. The only problem is that I am fairly swamped right now with work, cloud mod, etc. so I don't know when I might be able to do much on my own at the moment. However, I would be more than willing to help with testing, feedback, and suggestions as time permits.

One question: since we don't have access to .cfg and .air files anymore, how do you control parasitic drag, for example? Perhaps Shredward or Polvoski can help out in that regard?



Good to know you have some expertise with .xfm files. I will probably PM you later.
On the matter of cfg and air files Iconcur with you. We shall see how far we can get.

Cheers


Looking forward to hearing from you!

BTW, when do you ever find time to sleep? sleepy

P.S. Happy Birthday! happy_bday

#4368465 - 07/10/17 08:04 PM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: Fullofit]  
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Just noticed it. Happy Birthday Robert Wiggins! :


Happy Birthday, dear Robert. happy_bday

#4368482 - 07/10/17 09:15 PM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: Hauksbee]  
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Originally Posted by Hauksbee

Lacks only a pilot and a rotating prop. Will these be forthcoming? Also...I seemed to hear the huffing of a train, but never could see it. Was there really one there?


I have them both. I can add the pilot, But I don't know how to get the prop to spin like I did with the bullet.
I'm trying to figure that piece out since I have the model for static, slow and fast props.

Another issue I'm trying to resolve is how to change into the cockpit view with the correct cockpit model I already have. Seems that it's not switching models when I want to move from external view to cockpit view.

Also, I'm struggling with getting some of the skins to correctly display on the plane. This is way beyond me and will probably need someone more experienced in skinning.

Other than that, it's ok for external screenshots until I get the FMs.

I imagine if we truely want our own select plane MODs, its going to need a team effort from the community with the skills to make it really happen.

#4368488 - 07/10/17 09:49 PM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OldHat]  
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You guys are genii! Happy birthday, Robert!!

#4368491 - 07/10/17 09:58 PM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OldHat]  
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#4368526 - 07/11/17 01:34 AM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OldHat]  
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Thanks guys, for the Bday wishes. I actually had a free lunch on the wife and desert on the house, Oh and I forgot to mention three samples of a local micro brewery's ales. I then went home and had a nap!
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#4368529 - 07/11/17 01:42 AM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Originally Posted by Robert_Wiggins
Thanks guys, for the Bday wishes. I actually had a free lunch on the wife and desert on the house, Oh and I forgot to mention three samples of a local micro brewery's ales. I then went home and had a nap!
Oh what I life!!

Sounds like a life of RAF pilot in WOFF!


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The connecting rod out of my brain, my brain,
From out of my arse take the camshaft,
And assemble the engine again."
#4368530 - 07/11/17 01:43 AM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OldHat]  
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Nearly belated birthday wishes, Robert!

#4368534 - 07/11/17 02:07 AM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OldHat]  
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Skins are a mapping issue. Every part needs to be mapped to a section and assure the sections don't cross over.

I can help skin it, I've got nothing on my plate as of now.

I just need it to be selectable in QC so I can see the results in the game

Ovs


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#4368535 - 07/11/17 02:11 AM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OldHat]  
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Happy birthday aahhhh Mr..Wahiggins...

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Originally Posted by OvStachel
Happy birthday aahhhh Mr..Wahiggins...

Ovs


Thanks OV and Raine

OV, do you have any flight model data that you can share regarding the Maurice Farm and MF7?


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#4368540 - 07/11/17 02:43 AM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OldHat]  
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Negative, I never got into that side of the game. You can ask Shredward. He probably does, or can get it.


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#4368547 - 07/11/17 03:12 AM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OldHat]  
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Hi OvS. Sent you a PM.

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#4368627 - 07/11/17 03:04 PM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OldHat]  
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Just to give an update....

I have permission to use a few planes inside WOFF. I'll post a list of which ones soon.

These are 15 year old models, so they will not be up to OBD's beauty, but will look ok when done.

They can fly inside WOFF if you are comfortable with editing the campaign mission file. There is no other way to get them into WOFF without OBD's permission and help. However, the cockpit view and spinning propeller are still not ready.

Also, they can be static planes to pepper the current airfields... with Panama's help, of course.

They can be made into AI controllable planes and inserted into campaign missions to fly with or against.


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Was it mentioned where these models are from?
I have a guess but missed an "official statement" in this thread unless the info is on the downlow.

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15? Wow... that's amazing. Can't wait to see the list.

Also, adding these as AI non-flyable is not such a bad thing. It will still add to the depth of the game and provide plenty of visual to be enjoyed.

Better to leave as AI rather than have something that gives you all kinds of headaches trying to make it work.

Just my 2 cents.

OvS

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OV I hate it when you guys in the US can get your "two cents" worth in! The Canadian government took all our cents away and left us to up our anti to five cents! I can only surmise that our government was short of sense (cents) and needed all the cents that the general public was in possession of! biggrin

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#4368841 - 07/12/17 04:33 PM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Originally Posted by Robert_Wiggins
The Canadian government took all our cents away and left us to up our anti to five cents!


I wish that the US would do the same thing. In my opinion, pennies are annoying and virtually worthless. I just toss the ones that I receive now.

If my bill is $10.67 and I give the cashier $11.02 it just baffles them.

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#4368861 - 07/12/17 06:23 PM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OvStachel]  
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Originally Posted by OvStachel
Can't wait to see the list.


Pending no objections from mod authors.... here's.....

The List...

Avro504C
Avro504D
BristolM1C
FarmanMF11
FarmanMF11b
FarmanMF11c
FarmanMF7
FokkerB.I
FokkerB.II
Hp0/400
HalberstadtCL.IV
HanriotHD.1
HanriotHD.1 Dual
Hansa BrandenburgD.1
MartinsydeG100
MartinsydeG102
MartinsydeS1
Morane Bullet
Morane TypeH
PfalzBI
PfalzEI
PfalzEIV
PflazEV
PhonixKDI
Salmason2a

It would help to know which planes have similar performance specs to ones already in WOFF UE (or if I have any planes listed that are already included), so that I can release them quicker.....

.....or before this brief moment of insanity I got myself into wears off.

#4368864 - 07/12/17 06:36 PM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: Fullofit]  
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#4368871 - 07/12/17 07:05 PM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OldHat]  
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Originally Posted by OldHat
Originally Posted by OvStachel
Can't wait to see the list.


Pending no objections from mod authors.... here's.....

The List...

Avro504C
Avro504D
BristolM1C
FarmanMF11
FarmanMF11b
FarmanMF11c
FarmanMF7
FokkerB.I
FokkerB.II
Hp0/400
HalberstadtCL.IV
HanriotHD.1
HanriotHD.1 Dual
Hansa BrandenburgD.1
MartinsydeG100
MartinsydeG102
MartinsydeS1
Morane Bullet
Morane TypeH
PfalzBI
PfalzEI
PfalzEIV
PflazEV
PhonixKDI
Salmason2a

It would help to know which planes have similar performance specs to ones already in WOFF UE (or if I have any planes listed that are already included), so that I can release them quicker.....

.....or before this brief moment of insanity I got myself into wears off.



eek and all those FM'S.....


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#4368873 - 07/12/17 07:17 PM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OldHat]  
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Putting together our own little Skunkworks are we?

This is great news! Maybe we will finally be able to fill in some of the aircraft that are currently AWOL in WOFFUE.

Personally, I have been hoping for the Salmson2a to be a part of WOFF for a long time. I am willing to work on the FM for it if someone can send me some info about dimensions and performance. I also noticed you have a model for the HP 0/400. I might be able to work on the FM for that as well, although I would probably feel more comfortable working on the HP 0/100 instead.

Finally OldHat, does anyone have a model for the Sopwith Dolphin? I'd like to see that in WOFF eventually, as well.

And to be really ambitious, if we are able to assemble relatively decent models of a handful of these aircraft we just might be able to convince OBD to include some, or all of these planes into WOFF as an unofficial add-on! A WWI enthusiast can dream can't he?

#4368875 - 07/12/17 07:21 PM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Originally Posted by Robert_Wiggins
Originally Posted by OldHat
[quote=OvStachel]Can't wait to see the list.


eek and all those FM'S.....

A number of those are Austrian-Hungarian, so wouldn't be seen much over the Western front at present. Maybe as a later add-on pack? This would cut down on the number of new FM's that would have to be put together.

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Can remove some that WOFFUE doesn't cover....

No Eastern Front:
Hansa BrandenburgD.1
PhonixKDI
FokkerB.I
FokkerB.II

No Belgians:
HanriotHD.1
HanriotHD.1 Dual

The FokkerB.I can be used as the Fokker M 7, which had been operated by the Naval air service of the Kaiserliche Marine from 1915.

Eliminate those and the list gets a little easier. But again, these are not in the main data files , so they won't be active in campaigns without some renaming and file trickery for lack if better words. Sort of like how Pat Wilson created the Western Front Patch for those that remember... ugh...15 years ago...

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#4368890 - 07/12/17 08:34 PM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: BuckeyeBob]  
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Originally Posted by BuckeyeBob
Putting together our own little Skunkworks are we?

This is great news! Maybe we will finally be able to fill in some of the aircraft that are currently AWOL in WOFFUE.

Personally, I have been hoping for the Salmson2a to be a part of WOFF for a long time. I am willing to work on the FM for it if someone can send me some info about dimensions and performance. I also noticed you have a model for the HP 0/400. I might be able to work on the FM for that as well, although I would probably feel more comfortable working on the HP 0/100 instead.

Finally OldHat, does anyone have a model for the Sopwith Dolphin? I'd like to see that in WOFF eventually, as well.

And to be really ambitious, if we are able to assemble relatively decent models of a handful of these aircraft we just might be able to convince OBD to include some, or all of these planes into WOFF as an unofficial add-on! A WWI enthusiast can dream can't he?


Having contacted Pol on this mod, it's not totally out of the question for this to be released by OBD at some time in the future.
That said, the mod would need to be up to the standard we and OBD would wish. If some of these models are 15 years old, then their quality must be questionable. In the past modders have come and gone and even when aircraft have been submitted to OBD, the quality left a lot to be desired, in addition to the need of quality texture files, cockpits, LOD models, FM, XML files, historical data and the WOFF folder system, to name just a few of what is required.
As we all know, at the moment its full steam ahead with WOTR, so obviously this mod is not an OBD priority right now. However, user generated mods have made their way into WOFF, so never say never.


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#4368898 - 07/12/17 08:51 PM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Definitely a great deal of work, blood, sweat, and tears must go into these models, probably more than I can even imagine!

Besides the actual aircraft model that appears in game, the biggest stumbling block is probably creating the aircraft hit box models. OBD has every right to expect that these are drawn with the same level of care and sophistication that already exists in the official WOFF aircraft. Unfortunately, I have absolutely no artistic or drawing ability (or vision)! OTOH, I am perfectly willing and able to work on both the FM and DM files that would help bring life to some of these models.

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Originally Posted by OldHat
Originally Posted by OvStachel
Can't wait to see the list.


Pending no objections from mod authors.... here's.....

The List...

Avro504C
Avro504D
BristolM1C
FarmanMF11
FarmanMF11b
FarmanMF11c
FarmanMF7
FokkerB.I
FokkerB.II
Hp0/400
HalberstadtCL.IV
HanriotHD.1
HanriotHD.1 Dual
Hansa BrandenburgD.1
MartinsydeG100
MartinsydeG102
MartinsydeS1
Morane Bullet
Morane TypeH
PfalzBI
PfalzEI
PfalzEIV
PflazEV
PhonixKDI
Salmason2a

It would help to know which planes have similar performance specs to ones already in WOFF UE (or if I have any planes listed that are already included), so that I can release them quicker.....

.....or before this brief moment of insanity I got myself into wears off.



Wow!


Originally Posted by OvStachel
Can remove some that WOFFUE doesn't cover....

No Eastern Front:
Hansa BrandenburgD.1
PhonixKDI
FokkerB.I
FokkerB.II

No Belgians:
HanriotHD.1
HanriotHD.1 Dual

The FokkerB.I can be used as the Fokker M 7, which had been operated by the Naval air service of the Kaiserliche Marine from 1915.

Eliminate those and the list gets a little easier. But again, these are not in the main data files , so they won't be active in campaigns without some renaming and file trickery for lack if better words. Sort of like how Pat Wilson created the Western Front Patch for those that remember... ugh...15 years ago...


FWIW I would vote to keep the Hanriot's in, as we can simulate a Belgian career.

Regards,

Jeff


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AsRock Z75 mobo
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16 GB RAM
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Very old (over 20 years now) Aiwa Receiver/Amplifier
Very old giant stereo speakers with newer sub-woofer
Very old Logitech Wingman joystick with two buttons and a throttle slider
Very old CH Thurstmaster analog footpedals
Manhattan analog/USB converter
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#4368917 - 07/12/17 10:59 PM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OldHat]  
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I will be happy to fill your glass "again" the next time we meet. Ohio ?? WW1 gathering again? About one year from now?

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Really helps to know which planes to work on and leave. Thanks for that info.

I don't have access to a "free" sop. dolphin, yet.

I have access to a few more "free" models of planes which are already inside WOFF. I can basically make minor adjustments to those model's wings/fuselage/etc... wider/larger/narrower.. to make variants. Maybe not as good-looking as OBD models, but at least more plane variety.

Also, would help to know which FMs I can recycle and reuse to make variants. Any suggestions? This is a large project and any helpers are welcome. Just say what you're working on to avoid duplication of effort.

OBD would need to make some kind of programming "hole" in WOFF for these planes to be inserted and integrated without resorting to manually editing campaign files. These are "free" models and can't be sold.

Updated LIST

Avro504C
Avro504D - Model in Final Stages, Robert FM
BristolM1C - low priority
FarmanMF11 - Working on Model for minor adjustments
FarmanMF11b
FarmanMF11c
FarmanMF7 - Model and FM done, now testing.
FokkerB.IM7
FokkerB.II
Hp0/400 - BuckeyeBob FM (Future)
HalberstadtCL.IV
HanriotHD.1
HanriotHD.1 Dual
Hansa BrandenburgD.1
MartinsydeG100
MartinsydeG102
MartinsydeS1
Morane Bullet - model in final stages, BuckeyeBob FM
Morane TypeH - using FokkerEI FM, low priority
PfalzBI
PfalzEI - using FokkerEI FM, building model
PfalzEIV
PflazEV
PhonixKDI



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#4368952 - 07/13/17 08:35 AM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OldHat]  
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If the deep need for the Beligans arises, the Pup can be used in place of a low-quality HD-1 model. The Camel is already in the game, as is the Spad VII. The HD.1 was very close in ability and design to the Pup. So it makes sense to use it as a viable sub.

What is more difficult is activating the squadrons in the game as part of campaign mode. It just won't happen correctly (if at all) without direct involvement of the devs.

So, leave out the HD.1 until it can be added properly.

Just my $1.68.

Ok...

Pfalz B.I... not sure there even was such a plane. Could be a variation of the Parasol, or even an unarmed 2-seater Fokker D.II?

Here is a little discussion on the type...or lack there of...

http://combatace.com/topic/81039-additional-info-on-pfalz-bi-in-the-downloads-section/

Pfalz E.IV/V... don't waste your time with these. There were very few built and of those that were, they were not well liked and replaced very quickly with Fokker types.

The E.I would be great to see active. You can use the DM/FM from the Fokkers as they were nearly identical in characteristic other than the color and cowlings.

The Morane Type H is effectively a Pfalz E.I... well... vice-versa really... the Type H was produced first by the French. Pfalz then produced it under license as the Pfalz E.I....which eventually sparked interest from Fokker who took the design, improved it, added the history making synchro-gear for the MG and sold it as the E series to Germany...thus creating the world's first fighter plane.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morane-Saulnier_H

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I have the FM for the FarmanMF11b Longhorn ready for testing. PM me so we can discuss


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#4368980 - 07/13/17 03:03 PM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OldHat]  
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26 Morane H types ordered; 3 in escadrille service, 2 in reserve with MS31 from 24/09/14 06/11/14, when they were replaced with Morane Ls and relegated to training units. Two Hs were assigned to the CRP.
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#4368982 - 07/13/17 03:09 PM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OldHat]  
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#4368983 - 07/13/17 03:14 PM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OldHat]  
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OvS and Shred... appreciate the input. Good Stuff, indeed! - Anyone is welcome to contribute or let me know if I've made mistakes.

I've updated the list above. Will continue to update as time goes on.

Thanks for the FM Robert, I will test it soon.

....can't wait....exciting times ahead.

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#4369014 - 07/13/17 05:24 PM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OldHat]  
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I am willing to work on the FM for the Salmson2a first, and then the HP 0/400 after that. I can also work on the DM for both, although I will need a volunteer who is willing to draw the actual damage boxes.

Is there anything else I need to know? I have some basic information about the Salmson2a, but not a lot.

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I do miss the albatros two seaters, think these planes do belong in this game.
Maybe this plane could also be interested, the Short bomber that was in OFF2, this plane could be a good and an simple to start plane.


Need to know are we creating these planes for the campaign mode or just as an extra for the Quick mission.




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#4369072 - 07/13/17 08:41 PM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OldHat]  
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Alb 2-seaters are certainly needed.

#4369079 - 07/13/17 09:34 PM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OvStachel]  
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Originally Posted by OvStachel

What is more difficult is activating the squadrons in the game as part of campaign mode. It just won't happen correctly (if at all) without direct involvement of the devs.


Well, yes and no. WOFF campaign mission file can be edited to include any plane with any squad combo. Look at my training mission editing thread for example.

Basically, in a campaign mission, I can swap out any "AI" plane and rename the squad to match accordingly without actually revealing waypoints. If you happen to encounter them while flying your campaign mission, you can identify the squad and planes. Nice of OBD to allow this neat feature.

However, I can't get these planes to show in QC due to restrictions.

The damage models and boxes will have to be done on a later project. Right now, they'll burn and smoke and crash using default settings, but not show phyisical damage.

I found a few more planes, but need to test them first. I may have the Alb 2 seater and Dolphine. In case they don't work,
Anyone know what these 2 planes closely resemble with what changes. I know the Alb went from Bs to Cs with variations

#4369081 - 07/13/17 09:46 PM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: dutch]  
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Originally Posted by dutch
I do miss the albatros two seaters, think these planes do belong in this game.
Maybe this plane could also be interested, the Short bomber that was in OFF2, this plane could be a good and an simple to start plane.


Need to know are we creating these planes for the campaign mode or just as an extra for the Quick mission.

My understanding is that these will work "out of the box" in QC missions. In the campaign, you will not see them unless you use JJJ's mission editor to manually insert them into friendly and enemy flights. Fortunately, that is not hard to do, but it does delay the start of the mission. Getting them into the campaign automatically will require a modification to the global.xml file, which I believe has been encrypted by OBD.

EDIT: what OldHat said!

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However, I can't get these planes to show in QC due to restrictions.

]I thought that if the plane is in the aircraft folder, it can be selected as a plane to fly or as an opponent in the QC screen. I could be mistaken, however.

Sorry, strike that. OldHat is right. There may eventually be a way to solve that, however.

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#4369092 - 07/13/17 11:25 PM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OldHat]  
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Originally Posted by OldHat
PfalzEI - using FokkerEI FM, building model


From what I've read, Pfalz was inferior to Fokker. If possible, Fokker's FM should be tweaked to bring the Pfalz down a notch. Unfortunately I have no idea which characteristics made it inferior.


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#4369131 - 07/14/17 06:19 AM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: BuckeyeBob]  
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However, I can't get these planes to show in QC due to restrictions.

]I thought that if the plane is in the aircraft folder, it can be selected as a plane to fly or as an opponent in the QC screen. I could be mistaken, however.

Sorry, strike that. OldHat is right. There may eventually be a way to solve that, however.

These planes must be included in their respective "<Country name>Aircraft.txt" encrypted files. That is why we need the OBD to cooperate.

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Does anyone have any information about detailed specs for the Morane N (Bullet) other than Wikipedia, theaerodrome, or militaryfactorycom?

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#4369545 - 07/17/17 02:34 AM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OldHat]  
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Not just AI controlled planes anymore, now with a view from the cockpit and working controls....



Thanks OBD!! and thanks to Robert for the modified FM.

#4369550 - 07/17/17 02:44 AM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OldHat]  
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Originally Posted by OldHat
Not just AI controlled planes anymore, now with a view from the cockpit and working controls....



Thanks OBD!! and thanks to Robert for the modified FM.


amazing progress with the model OldHat. Won't be long till we have it skinned mate!


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#4369565 - 07/17/17 04:20 AM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OldHat]  
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Please keep on!

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Impressive progress.

It would be great to see squadrons of these additional aircraft eventually make their way seamlessly into WOFF's dynamic campaign.

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Originally Posted by ArisFuser
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ditto!


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#4369720 - 07/18/17 03:39 AM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OldHat]  
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This will be my last plane for a while until I'm able to figure out how parts of the model work. Thanks.


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Originally Posted by OldHat
This will be my last plane for a while until I'm able to figure out how parts of the model work. Thanks.


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#4370595 - 07/23/17 03:14 PM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OldHat]  
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Going through the list of available aircraft for various squadrons in WOFF, the biggest gaps that need to be filled, IMHO, are the following:

Farman F.40 (used by several French squads mid 1916 to mid 1917).
Salmson 2a (used by both French and Americans early 1918 on).
Armstrong Whitworth FK8 (British 2-seater used in several squads mid 1917 on).

It would be nice if someone could find models for these planes. If we get models, we can create FM's for them, too. yep

I haven't looked at the German's yet, although I'm sure there are several missing types there, as well.

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http://combatace.com/files/file/9815-ai-salmson/

http://combatace.com/files/file/8730-81st-squadrigallia-itlay-hanriot/

I do not know if any good, but sure as an AI should be no problem I guess. Stumpy can be found at the simouthouse forum.

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Thanks for the intell, dutch. I'll see if Stumpy is willing to share his Salmson model, but I'll have to join combatace, first!

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Here's a look see at some of the stuff that is going on behind the scenes at the ole OldHat's Skunkworks factory:

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The Morane N model seen above is still a work in progress. In fact, OldHat as just sent me and Robert an updated version of the Morane, so things are moving along. Anyone out there with knowledge of the dark and mysterious art of Gmax? We also could use someone who has some knowledge about drawing damageboxes.

In the next week or so, we hope to be able to share a brief video of a mock "dogfight" involving either the Morane or the Longhorn. Please stay tuned.

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Ok folks, here is a video of combat between the Morane_N and the Fokker EII. It is short because I wanted to avoid long upload times in order to get this to you as soon as possible.
The creation of the Morane model and FM is a work in progress and there is still work to be done on the skinning side as well but the video provides a rudimentary experience of things to come.

Many thanks to OldHat and BuckeyeBob for all the fine work they are doing.




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#4371967 - 07/31/17 09:17 PM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OldHat]  
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#4371988 - 07/31/17 10:14 PM Re: ...now let's get down to business. [Re: OldHat]  
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Unbelievably cool. Kudos to all those who are able to make such things happen! Nice flying and shooting too, Robert!


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