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#4367258 - 07/03/17 01:44 PM DCS F/A-18C #1 Hornet Video With Carrier Trap  
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Here's Wags first video talking about the Hornet progress and a carrier trap at the end.

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#4367311 - 07/03/17 05:09 PM Re: DCS F/A-18C #1 Hornet Video With Carrier Trap [Re: *Striker*]  
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Thanks, the external model is beautiful. I'm looking forward to see a video about the new A-G radar and the Flight model!

#4367315 - 07/03/17 05:15 PM Re: DCS F/A-18C #1 Hornet Video With Carrier Trap [Re: *Striker*]  
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Way over in Perth, Western Aus...
And carrier ATC... marshall stack, bolters, wave offs, push times etc...


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#4367383 - 07/04/17 10:08 AM Re: DCS F/A-18C #1 Hornet Video With Carrier Trap [Re: *Striker*]  
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Very nice video... I was always curious as to the physical dimensions of the Hornet. So many arguments about the unloaded and fully-loaded weight of the Hornet, and don't get me started with wingspan dimensions folded/un-folded arguments!! Also very nice of Wags to include which parts are aluminum alloy, which parts are titanium, which parts are steel, and which are plastics... they obviously needed years of research for this!

I'm sorry, but what Wags seems to miss is that at this point, we're not interested in FACTS about the actual Hornet aircraft but rather facts about the actual Hornet DCS module. So what if they've modeled Engine A instead of Engine B? So what if the crew can change the engines quickly and that they're interchangeable? We don't interact with those systems in the sim and I'm sure nobody is going to skip out on buying the Hornet because they wanted Engine B and ED modeled Engine A. At 6:05, he fires a couple of rockets... but there weren't any rocket pods shown in the Hornet earlier. Sure, he could've flown a different Hornet and at 4:46, the pods can be seen briefly, but the point here is that this is something that we're going to be using when we get the Hornet but he neither shows them in detail nor does he talk about them... but we needed to know which system powers the canopy and APU igniters duh

While he talks about weapons at 8:58, I'm surprised that he says "more and more weapons will be added" later on... wait, they've not even modeled the weapons yet? Not even the dumb bombs?

Really looking forward to the weapons portion of this series of videos then...


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#4367398 - 07/04/17 11:53 AM Re: DCS F/A-18C #1 Hornet Video With Carrier Trap [Re: - Ice]  
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Originally Posted by - Ice

While he talks about weapons at 8:58, I'm surprised that he says "more and more weapons will be added" later on... wait, they've not even modeled the weapons yet? Not even the dumb bombs?



I just hope they are not going to sell the weapons for the Hornet as a separate DLC neaner

#4367400 - 07/04/17 11:58 AM Re: DCS F/A-18C #1 Hornet Video With Carrier Trap [Re: mdwa]  
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Originally Posted by mdwa
And carrier ATC... marshall stack, bolters, wave offs, push times etc...


Ah I think you have confused what CTD promised with their now defunct E\F hornet with included carrier flight deck crew with what ED have produced.

#4367401 - 07/04/17 12:03 PM Re: DCS F/A-18C #1 Hornet Video With Carrier Trap [Re: - Ice]  
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Originally Posted by - Ice
Very nice video... I was always curious as to the physical dimensions of the Hornet. So many arguments about the unloaded and fully-loaded weight of the Hornet, and don't get me started with wingspan dimensions folded/un-folded arguments!! Also very nice of Wags to include which parts are aluminum alloy, which parts are titanium, which parts are steel, and which are plastics... they obviously needed years of research for this!

I'm sorry, but what Wags seems to miss is that at this point, we're not interested in FACTS about the actual Hornet aircraft but rather facts about the actual Hornet DCS module. So what if they've modeled Engine A instead of Engine B? So what if the crew can change the engines quickly and that they're interchangeable? We don't interact with those systems in the sim and I'm sure nobody is going to skip out on buying the Hornet because they wanted Engine B and ED modeled Engine A. At 6:05, he fires a couple of rockets... but there weren't any rocket pods shown in the Hornet earlier. Sure, he could've flown a different Hornet and at 4:46, the pods can be seen briefly, but the point here is that this is something that we're going to be using when we get the Hornet but he neither shows them in detail nor does he talk about them... but we needed to know which system powers the canopy and APU igniters duh

While he talks about weapons at 8:58, I'm surprised that he says "more and more weapons will be added" later on... wait, they've not even modeled the weapons yet? Not even the dumb bombs?

Really looking forward to the weapons portion of this series of videos then...



If only mudspike endorsed a true presentation of what is portrayed in the video as you do Ice. It won't happen as mudspike's reviews are written by ED's testers and endorsed by ED themselves. A true review of overall presentation as what you have put forth Ice is what divide's Ed's fiction from your facts Ice.

#4367474 - 07/04/17 06:27 PM Re: DCS F/A-18C #1 Hornet Video With Carrier Trap [Re: Winfield]  
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Originally Posted by damson
I just hope they are not going to sell the weapons for the Hornet as a separate DLC neaner

Hahaha!! No, you'll get a certain amount of weapons per day... then you have to buy "packs" if you want to use more of a particular weapon. For example, you have an allocation of 6 Mavericks per day. Once you go through that, you'll have to use other weapons.... or buy a Maverick pack for [amount to be determined]. This is a great idea really because it motivates people to try other weapons they otherwise might not have tried **OR** they can just buy more of the weapon they want to use. As ED have said, it's all about providing YOU, the end customer, with choices! biggrin

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If only mudspike endorsed a true presentation of what is portrayed in the video as you do Ice. It won't happen as mudspike's reviews are written by ED's testers and endorsed by ED themselves. A true review of overall presentation as what you have put forth Ice is what divide's Ed's fiction from your facts Ice.

Never really looked deeper into Mudspike... isn't that where BeachAV8R migrated to? In any case, I've only really taken a critical view of the video released so far... smile


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#4367484 - 07/04/17 08:40 PM Re: DCS F/A-18C #1 Hornet Video With Carrier Trap [Re: *Striker*]  
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Earning weapons one by one based on flying hours might be the best thing that could ever happen to DCS multiplayer

#4367492 - 07/04/17 09:09 PM Re: DCS F/A-18C #1 Hornet Video With Carrier Trap [Re: Frederf]  
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Originally Posted by Frederf
Earning weapons one by one based on flying hours might be the best thing that could ever happen to DCS multiplayer

Yeah, but flight hours does not equal skill. Someone could have the A-10 just on autopilot orbiting a waypoint for 4-5 hours while the player does something else.... so maybe a mix of flight hours, successful missions, and mission kills? 10 missions with 10 A-A kills should be worth less XP than 10 missions with 15 A-A kills. Then comes the question: is an A-A kill worth more XP than an A-G strike?

If we do go this way, I also vote that carrier traps be graded and given a corresponding XP bonus. A 3-wire should be worth more than a 1-wire or a 4-wire, and losing an airframe during a mission is a loss of XP... losing an airframe because you've slammed it into the carrier would be an even bigger XP loss. smile


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#4367498 - 07/04/17 09:44 PM Re: DCS F/A-18C #1 Hornet Video With Carrier Trap [Re: *Striker*]  
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I think ED should charge the full and correct prices as per real life for individual weapons/missiles within a full load-out. That should also ensure that it puts an end to SP-AMRAAM attacks as novice pilots think carefully about their bank balance


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#4367500 - 07/04/17 10:03 PM Re: DCS F/A-18C #1 Hornet Video With Carrier Trap [Re: Paradaz]  
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Originally Posted by Paradaz
I think ED should charge the full and correct prices as per real life for individual weapons/missiles within a full load-out. That should also ensure that it puts an end to SP-AMRAAM attacks as novice pilots think carefully about their bank balance

??? Pilots don't pay for ordnance use in real life.... weapon employment carries different penalties IRL wink Maybe ban the pilot from flying for a week for a blue-on-blue?


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#4367522 - 07/05/17 12:52 AM Re: DCS F/A-18C #1 Hornet Video With Carrier Trap [Re: Paradaz]  
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Originally Posted by Paradaz
I think ED should charge the full and correct prices as per real life for individual weapons/missiles within a full load-out. That should also ensure that it puts an end to SP-AMRAAM attacks as novice pilots think carefully about their bank balance


Seems feasible if not realistic smile

#4367538 - 07/05/17 04:27 AM Re: DCS F/A-18C #1 Hornet Video With Carrier Trap [Re: - Ice]  
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Originally Posted by - Ice
Originally Posted by Paradaz
I think ED should charge the full and correct prices as per real life for individual weapons/missiles within a full load-out. That should also ensure that it puts an end to SP-AMRAAM attacks as novice pilots think carefully about their bank balance

Pilots don't pay for ordnance use in real life


But in DCS World we are both pilots and tax-payers.
Paradaz is right smile

#4367667 - 07/05/17 08:41 PM Re: DCS F/A-18C #1 Hornet Video With Carrier Trap [Re: - Ice]  
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Originally Posted by - Ice

??? Pilots don't pay for ordnance use in real life.... weapon employment carries different penalties IRL wink


I don't recall ever buying an asset pack for anything in real life either....for example, driving down the motorway - there are no signs, buildings or features that I ever recall contributing to. ED are now charging for everything on that soul-less landscape, they'll be bagging up fresh-air next and trying to charge us for that too! stirthepot


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#4367670 - 07/05/17 08:51 PM Re: DCS F/A-18C #1 Hornet Video With Carrier Trap [Re: theOden]  
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Originally Posted by Paradaz
I don't recall ever buying an asset pack for anything in real life either....for example, driving down the motorway - there are no signs, buildings or features that I ever recall contributing to.

It's called taxes smile


Originally Posted by theOden
But in DCS World we are both pilots and tax-payers.
Paradaz is right smile

True! Point conceded! biggrin


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#4368805 - 07/12/17 12:55 PM Re: DCS F/A-18C #1 Hornet Video With Carrier Trap [Re: - Ice]  
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Originally Posted by - Ice
....I'm sure nobody is going to skip out on buying the Hornet because they wanted Engine B and ED modeled Engine A....


You apparently haven't spent much time in modern flight sim forums then smile

Besides, everyone knows Engine D was the one worth flying. It had the cowl straps on the side! biggrin




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#4368854 - 07/12/17 05:31 PM Re: DCS F/A-18C #1 Hornet Video With Carrier Trap [Re: AggressorBLUE]  
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Originally Posted by AggressorBLUE
You apparently haven't spent much time in modern flight sim forums then smile

Besides, everyone knows Engine D was the one worth flying. It had the cowl straps on the side! biggrin

Apparently not!! I didn't know Engine D existed! Shame on me! biggrin
Maybe we should do a poll to see which engine the community wants the most.... so that ED can take their time "developing" that engine and sell it as a separate DLC! wink


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#4368878 - 07/12/17 07:47 PM Re: DCS F/A-18C #1 Hornet Video With Carrier Trap [Re: Paradaz]  
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Originally Posted by Paradaz
Originally Posted by - Ice

??? Pilots don't pay for ordnance use in real life.... weapon employment carries different penalties IRL wink


I don't recall ever buying an asset pack for anything in real life either....for example, driving down the motorway - there are no signs, buildings or features that I ever recall contributing to. ED are now charging for everything on that soul-less landscape, they'll be bagging up fresh-air next and trying to charge us for that too! stirthepot


I guess you are not old enough to remember buying a car and adding features to the car.


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The Fw190A could not fly with the outer cannon removed.
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#4369073 - 07/13/17 08:57 PM Re: DCS F/A-18C #1 Hornet Video With Carrier Trap [Re: *Striker*]  
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You don't need to 'add features' to a car in order to fulfill its purpose.


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