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#4365531 - 06/22/1705:43 PMRe: Wait, don`t forget about Star Trek Discovery
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#4365594 - 06/22/1710:25 PMRe: Wait, don`t forget about Star Trek Discovery
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Those looked to me like they should be fishing the Atlantic with those wool looking turtle necks. I like Picard's gray uniform with the red biker jacket. Too bad they couldn't have some friggin pockets.
I also love this uniform, so utilitarian and believable:
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#4365619 - 06/23/1712:44 AMRe: Wait, don`t forget about Star Trek Discovery
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#4366778 - 06/29/1705:14 PMRe: Wait, don`t forget about Star Trek Discovery
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I heard Jonathan Frakes will be joining this as director.
At first I thought...that's great!
Then I remembered "Insurrection"...so, maybe not so great...
#4366785 - 06/29/1705:27 PMRe: Wait, don`t forget about Star Trek Discovery
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Originally Posted by Bib4Tuna
Then I remembered "Insurrection"...so, maybe not so great...
That was really the fault of the crappy script and not the director.
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#4366787 - 06/29/1705:35 PMRe: Wait, don`t forget about Star Trek Discovery
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by Bib4Tuna
Then I remembered "Insurrection"...so, maybe not so great...
That was really the fault of the crappy script and not the director.
I hear this so many times, but, unless the director is a cheap hire for the studio, they usually have final say on what's on the script.
He directed it like it was a TV episode. That was not the fault of the script.
To bring a more positive note, he did direct First Contact. That is, in my opinion, the best of the TNG movies.
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#4366789 - 06/29/1705:45 PMRe: Wait, don`t forget about Star Trek Discovery
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Why are we assuming that Frakes had final say with the script in the TNG movies he directed? Rick Berman was running the ST franchise at the time and he ruled it with an iron fist. His reputation was very well established in that respect.
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#4367105 - 07/01/1711:35 PMRe: Wait, don`t forget about Star Trek Discovery
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Those would be good as the equivalent to today's service khakis, worn by officers, warrant officers, and senior chiefs as a daily duty uniform when service dress, full dress, or dinner dress uniforms aren't more appropriate. But petty officers would need uniforms more appropriate for supervising work details or doing their day-to-day jobs, lower enlisted would need duty and work uniforms, etc. The "Enterprise" style coveralls would be most practical for that. Although the navy seems to be the service with the deepest traditions, so maybe dungarees or utilities would be better as daily work uniforms for enlisted below the rank of senior chief, with coveralls authorized as a replacement by the captain. Just as long as they don't have as many uniforms as today's navy! Enlisted up to PO1 should have daily work, service, and dress (even though I don't think there's a need for uniforms you can't fight or do your wartime job in), and senior chiefs, warrants, and officers would have service, dress, undress mess (basically the equivalent of black tie), and dress mess (white tie.)
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#4371931 - 07/31/1707:21 PMRe: Wait, don`t forget about Star Trek Discovery
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This makes no sense, it's pure political correctness. "God" and or religion was mentioned in every single series that comes, chronologically, after STD: TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY.
"But Discovery is just... weird in its choices. Like, remember how it was so adamant about “breaking” Roddenberry’s rule about interpersonal conflict among the crew? Despite the fact that this rule hadn’t been enforced for decades? Why adhere to the letter of Roddenberry’s religion vision rather than simply the spirit of that rule? Everything, everything about this show confuses me."
Exactly.
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#4371933 - 07/31/1707:29 PMRe: Wait, don`t forget about Star Trek Discovery
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Even shows like Battlestar Galactica and Babylon 5 which had very liberal writing staffs made frequent use of the word "god".
This is just Milennial social warrior justice crap going on here.
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#4371944 - 07/31/1707:54 PMRe: Wait, don`t forget about Star Trek Discovery
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Here's a video about Discovery that doesn't paint a rosy picture, but then I think the expectations have been dropping quite a bit lately. If you've got 20 minutes to kill, it's interesting to see how things have been developing. I think the discussion about how the fan reaction was handled is interesting - it starts at the 15 minute mark.
I read elsewhere that the Nicolas Meyer series referenced here is actually about Khan on Ceti Alpha V, prior to STII, which doesn't sound that interesting to me.
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This makes no sense, it's pure political correctness. "God" and or religion was mentioned in every single series that comes, chronologically, after STD: TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY.
"But Discovery is just... weird in its choices. Like, remember how it was so adamant about “breaking” Roddenberry’s rule about interpersonal conflict among the crew? Despite the fact that this rule hadn’t been enforced for decades? Why adhere to the letter of Roddenberry’s religion vision rather than simply the spirit of that rule? Everything, everything about this show confuses me."
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#4373180 - 08/07/1706:54 PMRe: Wait, don`t forget about Star Trek Discovery
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That said, this is picking up very strong with Trekkies. On the major ST message boards there seems to be a lot of enthusiasm and people looking forward to it. The word is that it was a smart move to cast Michelle Yeoh as captain, as this has raised the interest in China to be able to see this.
This is really weird, considering how much they hated Enterprise before it even aired.
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#4374208 - 08/14/1703:48 AMRe: Wait, don`t forget about Star Trek Discovery
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Is anyone here going to at least watch the pilot episode that will air on CBS? I'll give it a shot.
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#4374236 - 08/14/1712:47 PMRe: Wait, don`t forget about Star Trek Discovery
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#4374247 - 08/14/1701:51 PMRe: Wait, don`t forget about Star Trek Discovery
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I'll subscribe to watch the show, unless I hate it after a few episodes. Then drop it, just like I do with HBO and GoT.