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Not cool leaf...don't go there.

It was't a comeback. It was a statement of FACT.

Btw, the TM booth was a bit more than just the ED display.

Ah, sorry. I forgot you cherry-pick parts of people's posts and if you just consider what you've cut out, then yeah, that is FACT. Now try tackling it again in context of everything else I said surrounding that cut-out part...


Which is irrelevant considering the thread topic....
BTW, E3 is more than just TM and ED

You are the one who was complaining about TM's display, which was irrelevant considering the thread topic.

Wrong thinking.

Was I really complaining about TM's display? Re-read the post again.


How so? I know TM steering wheels exist and can be used with consoles, but what offerings are there on the console for a HOTAS?

Hello Kitty Adventures. Forza. I don't know. Why would your position be to deny until proven useful instead of have it work for everything and let the user decide if it's useful or not. People play Dark Souls with a Guitar Hero guitar.

Hahahaha! Yeah, I suppos you could use the split throttles as throttle-and-brakes and use the stick as POV control and use the hat switch for steering....

several month before EA

They won't release until it has (among other things) "compelling game play"

Vaporware confirmed.

I keed, I keed.


But seriously, it at least looks amazing so far.

Hmmm... I think 2018 will see the Hornet where they thought they'd be in 2016.

Wonder how the dev of ground radar is going - wasn't shown in the vid.

Sounds like a release (in early access) for late this year might be possible. I'd imagine it will be in early access for at least a few months after in a best case scenario. I think the complexity of the plane means it will be a while until it is mostly bug free, but it is also ED and their modules tend to be higher quality and pushed to full release quicker. And it is more or less their flagship product for the next few years, like the A-10C was.

Or is it?? l may be wrong but TM's new hornet stick is in a glass shrine whilst the ED stick is a Warthog stick.....would it not be more viable to showcase the hornet stick and hornet for what it is. Photos look quite dodgy and not 4K resolution of the flight stick being available for public testing

I'm not sure I follow.

• While a hornet stick with a hornet sim makes perfect sense for a demo, we don't know how far along TM is in interfacing the hornet stick with the WH base. Perhaps all they have right now is a physical prototype in a glass case.
• TM has product lines for PC and console that crosses genre. ED develops niche high-end flight sims that lost mass popularity with the rise of the first person shooter in the late 1990s.
• I'm sure you saw the interview where the person asked Wags what consoles DCS worked with. That is the nature of mass market video games now. Even most brick and mortar game stores have removed their PC shelves, or at best have limited them to a single section with EA, Activision, and Tycoon Simulator titles.

Why would it be a good strategy for ED to have their own booth at E3 with such unfavorable market dynamics? If ED had their own booth, people would be (rightly) criticizing them for whacked priorities.

Wasn't shown, because there's nothing, to err... display yet. Straight from horse's mouth (Olgerd, one of the devs): "Yes, the AG radar picture itself works. It is not integrated into F/A-18 displays yet.". That's all we've been told though.

I agree with you Blastman, that actually does look OK in the first video. I may install it and try it again to see what differences there are. It was 4.33 because I still have it on my backup drive. But it looks like there was another update. I will install it later on this weekend. If I do I will correct some of my earlier posts.

By the way, I did correct my previous post regarding the graphics in BMS. I don't know why my experience was so different. But I did change it to show that it wasn't posted as a factual statement regarding BMS for everyone.

Hey *Striker*, here's an idea --- maybe sign up on the BMS forums so that you can get an authentic copy of the BMS installers and also get up to 4.33.3. I don't know where you got your copy of BMS but if the MP is buggy and you don't recognize the default BMS 4.32/4.33 terrain (Polak tiles), then you may not be playing BMS... you may be playing a pre-4.32 version in which case everything you've said thus far needs to be retracted.

Also, when you sign up on the BMS forums, you can report that disappearing airbase bug and you can find out how accurate your "saying that you can fly other air frames inside BMS is a really nonsense talking point" statement. Best to hear those from the horse's mouth.

Seeing as you're in the mood to retract non-factual falsehoods, here's a few more:



I've also re-uploaded my F4.0 and BMS4.33.3 comparison screenshots for you to refresh your memory.



I hope you can see the difference between vanilla Falcon 4.0 and vanilla BMS 4.33.3 this time around. If your copy of BMS doesn't look like the 2nd picture, you know you're doing something wrong. If you get a good copy of BMS 4.33.3 running, install Israel or Ostsee or Balkans and prepare to have your socks blown off. Not DCS-level, sure, but if you approach those add-on theatres knowing what the BMS team had to work with in terms of code, you will fully appreciate the leaps and bounds they've done to get it where it is now. When you're done, install some skins from JanHas....

I do have a BMS account, that's where I got the download.