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#4388631 - 11/07/17 02:31 PM Re: The missing forts around Verdun in WOFF [Re: RAF_Louvert]  
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Robert,

It has been a long haul, thanks again for your support and kindness. And to "Barker VC", it is a super read! One of the things I particularly like about Wayne Ralph's handling of the man's story is that he takes you down all sorts of side streets, just far enough that you understand the significance to Barker, but not so far that you don't wish to go on yourself and do further reading and research into the detour. One such is the brief mention of William Wedgwood Benn and the spy mission he and Barker were involved in. If you've not read "In The Side Shows" you really should, and the entire last chapter is about that mission.

Best Regards Mate!

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#4388636 - 11/07/17 02:50 PM Re: The missing forts around Verdun in WOFF [Re: RAF_Louvert]  
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Originally Posted by RAF_Louvert
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Robert,

It has been a long haul, thanks again for your support and kindness. And to "Barker VC", it is a super read! One of the things I particularly like about Wayne Ralph's handling of the man's story is that he takes you down all sorts of side streets, just far enough that you understand the significance to Barker, but not so far that you don't wish to go on yourself and do further reading and research into the detour. One such is the brief mention of William Wedgwood Benn and the spy mission he and Barker were involved in. If you've not read "In The Side Shows" you really should, and the entire last chapter is about that mission.

Best Regards Mate!

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Ah, glad to hear you enjoyed it Lou. I suspected you might be drawn to that part dealing with the spy mission.
I don't want to give too much away in case you haven't yet finished the book, but I particularly was captured by Barker's warning published in the London Sunday Express in 1922 in response to John Galsworthy recommendation to abandon civil and military air activity. He shows an intelligent insight towards the future, much of it bearing significant weight.

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#4388680 - 11/07/17 06:42 PM Re: The missing forts around Verdun in WOFF [Re: RAF_Louvert]  
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Originally Posted by RAF_Louvert
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Good Morning All,

I can't believe it has been nearly five months since I last touched this project, what with the various curve balls RL has thrown at my family and I during the interim. However, I am easing back into my WOFF building efforts and this will be the first one I intend to complete. This last weekend I had time to work on the damaged textures for the forts in order to represent the first half of 1916 when a fair number of them were being attacked. By the last half of 1916 most of the forts to the east and north of Verdun were entirely flattened so my intent will be to have you see this in the sim landscape even if the front lines have not yet swept across the aforementioned forts. As is always the case with OFF/WOFF and its vintage game engine compromises must be made in order to get to where you want to be with such projects.

In addition to the ring of forts around Verdun I am also intending on adding in a few of the more historically important forts along the Western Front that can serve as additional landmarks and navigation aids. I traded emails with Shredward about this and he heartily agrees and will no doubt provide me with more info about such facilities than I will ever be able to use - the man's a wealth of such knowledge.

I am attaching a teaser showing the beginnings of the first of these historically important forts. I knocked together the skeleton for it over the last couple of mornings before work and I have the scale of thing fairly sorted out at this point and am now getting things placed about before I further refine and tweak the textures to blend and fit with the surroundings. You folks will now know at a glance when you are flitting about in the area of Lille. smile2

Later Gents!

Lou

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Lou!

Great to see you back to work on these fantastic improvements to the Western Front. The forts look great from the air - I'm excited to see them fully realized around such an important sector.

Good to see your name popping up on the boards again too, glad to have you back with us mate.

Cheers!

#4388721 - 11/07/17 10:31 PM Re: The missing forts around Verdun in WOFF [Re: RAF_Louvert]  
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Great work Lou it is good to see you back I hope everything is working out for you, you are a fine Gentleman and a scholar! Thanks for the support you give to the WOFF community.
Thanks John

#4388817 - 11/08/17 04:50 PM Re: The missing forts around Verdun in WOFF [Re: RAF_Louvert]  
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#4388873 - 11/08/17 11:19 PM Re: The missing forts around Verdun in WOFF [Re: RAF_Louvert]  
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Hot damn Lou! Great to see you back in action... missed you while you were gone and so looking forward to whatever masterpieces come out of your efforts...

Ahhh.... one request if I may... biggrin

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#4388937 - 11/09/17 01:25 PM Re: The missing forts around Verdun in WOFF [Re: RAF_Louvert]  
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Thanks for the encouragement Gents, it always helps to hear feedback and input on these projects.

James, as I've noted before, I've no clue how to build the 3D models for WOFF, (or any other sim for that matter), so all my work is focused on creating the needed texture files for these projects and then placing already existing buildings and trees and such onto those new textures. People like Geezer are the artists who can actually build the models and I wish we had more of such talent willing to create the much-needed items for WOFF.

To the texture files, I attempt to get as much of the detail as possible "painted" into them as this minimizes the additional load on the graphics side of things. Once I have that sorted out I can add in the other items, as sparingly as possible, to create the new facility. In the end the fewer items I can get by with to create the look of a place the better as it keeps the demand on your system lower which means a smoother running sim.

After these last couple of early mornings before work I have the Citadel textures pretty well fitted and blended into the surrounding landscape and can now continue setting buildings and planting trees. Great fun!

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Attached Files WOFF UE Lille Citadel test 004.jpg

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#4388941 - 11/09/17 01:39 PM Re: The missing forts around Verdun in WOFF [Re: RAF_Louvert]  
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By the way, just as a point of reference, I am working off of the following photo from 1917 and also off of a current Google Earth image to help with some of the finer details.

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#4388954 - 11/09/17 02:48 PM Re: The missing forts around Verdun in WOFF [Re: RAF_Louvert]  
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I second James' request!

The thing that strikes me with the fort you are working on - I must have missed the name and I'm embarrassed to say I can't think of which one it is - is how utterly imposing that fortress is. Seeing it rendered in WOFF gives you a real sense of how massive the thing was and what it must have been like to try to capture it. Makes you shudder just thinking about it. Awesome stuff Lou!

#4388964 - 11/09/17 03:17 PM Re: The missing forts around Verdun in WOFF [Re: RAF_Louvert]  
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Capt, it is the Lille Citadel and it is massive. I've actually had to scale it down slightly in order to fit it on a single 1024 x 1024 DTX3 texture tile, and it's still huge.

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#4388982 - 11/09/17 06:45 PM Re: The missing forts around Verdun in WOFF [Re: OvStachel]  
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I give you the not-yet-Leaning-Virgin. For the disco version, take a jaunt by later in the war.
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#4388993 - 11/09/17 08:05 PM Re: The missing forts around Verdun in WOFF [Re: RAF_Louvert]  
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#4388998 - 11/09/17 08:57 PM Re: The missing forts around Verdun in WOFF [Re: RAF_Louvert]  
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Even after all the years and the thousands of hours I've spent flying about in OFF/WOFF I still see new things and details I never saw before. The sign of a truly great sim, or possibly my own inattentiveness, but I'm going with the former. smile2

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#4389015 - 11/10/17 12:59 AM Re: The missing forts around Verdun in WOFF [Re: RAF_Louvert]  
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Originally Posted by RAF_Louvert
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Even after all the years and the thousands of hours I've spent flying about in OFF/WOFF I still see new things and details I never saw before. The sign of a truly great sim, or possibly my own inattentiveness, but I'm going with the former. smile2

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That makes two of us, Lou! Starting to show my age! hahaha

#4389041 - 11/10/17 08:04 AM Re: The missing forts around Verdun in WOFF [Re: RAF_Louvert]  
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Then fly in the Alsace region, like at the Belfort airstrip. Not much to encounter on enemies, but flying true the mountains is really enjoying WoFF terrain.

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#4389449 - 11/13/17 01:26 PM Re: The missing forts around Verdun in WOFF [Re: RAF_Louvert]  
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dutch, I've probably flown in the Alsace as much as I have around Flanders - love the mountains.

Capt, the advantage we have with our memories and foci getting blurry with age is that we can now enjoy the same things over and over as if they were new. See, silver lining. biggrin

Despite being out most of the weekend I was able to make progress on "la Citadelle de Lille" and now have nearly all the buildings and walls placed and have made a dent in the tree plantings. Also refined the textures and further blended everything to get it looking more as if it belongs in the WOFF landscape. I am hoping to have time this coming weekend to wrap this one up and get back to the forts around Verdun. If all goes as planned I should be able to offer the mod to you folks by Christmas.

Later!

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Attached Files WOFF UE Lille Citadel test 006.jpg

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#4389472 - 11/13/17 04:49 PM Re: The missing forts around Verdun in WOFF [Re: RAF_Louvert]  
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Oh, that is looking very very nice !!!
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#4390024 - 11/16/17 08:57 PM Re: The missing forts around Verdun in WOFF [Re: RAF_Louvert]  
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Lou, the fort looks really, really nice! Too bad we won't be able to see it very long in its untouched, pristine condition!

What a nice addition to the game. My only complaint is the number of pilots I will probably lose who will get caught staring at the scenery when they should have been watching their six instead!

#4390096 - 11/17/17 12:09 PM Re: The missing forts around Verdun in WOFF [Re: RAF_Louvert]  
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Thanks Ted and BB, I appreciate the feedback. BB, the Citadel of Lille was not leveled during the War and in fact is still intact, so you'll be able to enjoy this one throughout the conflict. The same can not be said for many of the forts around Verdun.

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#4390450 - 11/19/17 02:57 PM Re: The missing forts around Verdun in WOFF [Re: RAF_Louvert]  
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For those interested I'm still planting trees and adding details to the Citadel and surrounding grounds. Earlier this AM I did some work along the eastern canal. The whole place is really starting to shape up and fill in, at least I feel like it is, it gets hard to tell sometimes on these long-term projects.

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