Downloaded ED base game and had a look around for a Cougar profile. Anyone here using this stick? Which profile do you recommend? I have Track IR (I assume that works in ED) and was thinking I would like thrusters on the microstick. I'm using Win 10. Or if you have a better solution I'd like to know.

Does ED recongnize the microstick?

dont know about the cougar ... but i use a X55 and it was quite easy to set up using the in game key mapping .. as for the thrusters you are right to want them on a microstick .. I use one of the four way hats on my throttle and TrackIr is a must ... especially for using the left and right popup menus ... just look to the left or the right and they appear

Microstick in the WH works and I use it for thruster movement (up/down/left/right). TrackIR works... do you have any voice command programs?


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No voice command software, no. When you put thrusters on a microstick is it graduated analog type response? I have it on the radio switch at the mo, but that is digital on/off. Worked OK, but I can see having finer control would be nice.

How did you configure the microstick Ice? Is it through Target, or were you able to set it up in-game?

Dbond,

Just like BMS, I configure all the Cougar buttons and Axes in GAME and set the Cougar to All DirectX commands rather than using a profile (other than programming a dedicated PTT switch).

I don't have the microstick axis programmed for anything at the time (other than the PUSH being used for BOOST) but I am pretty sure it is recognized.

I use the HAT1 (TRIM) for thrust, and you are correct that it is ON OR OFF rather than any analog variation. That said, there are few times you need that level of fine control with Flight Assist and Rotational Correction on.

No profile for me, stuff is mapped directly via in-game UI. Note that I have a TM WH, not a Cougar, but you should be able to map the controls the same way.

You'll use thrusters only occasionally when docking; you'll use the thrusters more in combat really and in that regards, graduated response isn't really a concern

You're right Ice. Digital thrusters are fine. See I had a misconception about how flight in space would be. I thought things in motion would stay in motion for a very long time unless counteracted by an opposing force. Have you ever docked a boat? Like that. But in this sim if you cut the throttle the ship just stops. I wasn't expecting it to work like that.

This is due to the default mode of FLIGHT ASSIST ON, where thrusters automatically fire to kill inertia and get you stopped or correct pitch and yaw inputs.

If you turn FLIGHT ASSIST OFF (I have my Cougar "Autopilot" switch for this, set to HOLD mode) things get more Newtonian and complicated.


Similarly, when entering a rotating Coriolis station, the ROTATIONAL CORRECTION ON toggle automatically compensates for the rotation. You can toggle this off in the right panel under FUNCTIONS.

Yeah... turn all of those off and see if your piloting skills are up to snuff!

Ah, yes, thanks gents. Makes sense. I'm kinda new ya know

Recluse, putting it on AP Override seems a perfect solution, thanks.

It is helpful in Combat when you need to get the nose up/around quickly. A quick flick of the AP OVERRIDE to give you a little more nose authority and then flick it off to stabilize.

There are some YOUTUBE Videos about tips and tricks for using FLIGHT ASSIST OFF..

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=elite+dangerous+flight+assist+off+tutorial

There are a number of vexing things about the physics model in Elite Dangerous....my biggest pet peeve is

- lowering the landing gear or cargo scoop restricts speed (in vacuum?)

Some people have suggested using the Cargo Scoop drop in combat similar to the way you would use Flaps to slow down and increase turn rate in an atmospheric dogfight. Kind of an exploit.

I guess I can buy that there is some type of ENGINE INTERLOCK rather than any "air friction" effect but WHY SHOULD IT MATTER in the slightest???

Haha... yeah, that doesn't make sense at all. Maybe in space stations where you could argue there is some sort of atmosphere inside after the mail slot, but not in outposts or in space...

Here's a few more...

Part of the situation seems to be aimed at safety during the landing phase. Part of it is the speed/engine limiters engage, but also the engine boost function is disabled. I cannot recall if the roll/pitch is lower rated, as well.

I'm not a PvP player, but watching them on YouTube I cannot recall ever having seen a quality player dropping landing gear or cargo scoop during a fight. I'll have to experiment with this on turn rate. But I'm sure that the most competitive CMDRs would be using this tactic, if it offered advantage.

OK MAYBE for Landing gear, but Cargo Scoop? Only used in space? Granted you need to hold down your speed when Scooping, but even with the Cargo Scoop deployed you can go TOO FAST, so I just don't see it.

I heard about the Cargo Scoop/combat maneuver thing on an old Lave Radio episode....it was referred to as BOOST SCOOPING..

http://laveradio.com/lave-radio-episode-112/

I agree with you though, I have never seen it referred to anywhere else and GOOGLE doesn't bring up anything obvious. have never tried it in PvE.