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#4359841 - 05/27/17 03:08 PM Wait...what?!  
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#4359850 - 05/27/17 04:48 PM Re: Wait...what?! [Re: Jayhawk]  
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Wow. That's some crazy wake turbulence. I guess larger separation distances will be put in place now.

#4359862 - 05/27/17 06:19 PM Re: Wait...what?! [Re: Jayhawk]  
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#4359902 - 05/28/17 01:05 AM Re: Wait...what?! [Re: Jayhawk]  
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Ah, the Starfox method of dealing with things:

"Do a barrel roll!"


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#4359923 - 05/28/17 10:12 AM Re: Wait...what?! [Re: Zamzow]  
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Nice video Zamzow.

Ignorant me always thought it was just "dirty" a/c in approach configuration that caused wake turbulence.


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#4359931 - 05/28/17 11:59 AM Re: Wait...what?! [Re: Nixer]  
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Originally Posted by Nixer
Nice video Zamzow.

Ignorant me always thought it was just "dirty" a/c in approach configuration that caused wake turbulence.


Mid-air collision

On 8 June 1966, XB-70A No. 2 was in close formation with four other aircraft (an F-4, an F-5, a T-38, and an F-104) for a photoshoot at the behest of General Electric, manufacturer of the engines of all five aircraft. After the completion of the photoshoot, the F-104 drifted into contact with the XB-70's right wing, flipped over and rolled inverted over the top of the Valkyrie, striking the vertical stabilizers and left wing of the bomber. The F-104 exploded, destroying the Valkyrie's rudders and damaging its left wing. With the loss of both rudders and damage to the wings, the Valkyrie entered an uncontrollable spin and crashed into the ground north of Barstow, California. NASA Chief Test Pilot Joe Walker (F-104 pilot) and Carl Cross (XB-70 co-pilot) were killed. Al White (XB-70 pilot) ejected, sustaining serious injuries, including one arm crushed by the closing clamshell-like escape crew capsule moments prior to ejection.

The USAF summary report of the accident investigation stated that, given the position of the F-104 relative to the XB-70, Walker, the F-104 pilot would not have been able to see the XB-70's wing, except by uncomfortably looking back over his left shoulder. The report said that it was likely that Walker maintained his position by looking at the fuselage of the XB-70, forward of his position. The F-104 was estimated to be 70 ft (21 m) to the side of, and 10 ft (3 m) below, the fuselage of the XB-70. The report concluded that from that position, without appropriate sight cues, Walker was unable to properly perceive his motion relative to the Valkyrie, leading to his aircraft drifting into contact with the XB-70's wing The accident investigation also pointed to the wake vortex off the XB-70's right wingtip as the reason for the F-104's sudden roll over and into the bomber.


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The Fw190A could not fly with the outer cannon removed.
There was no Fw190A-8s flying with the JGs in 1945.
#4359932 - 05/28/17 12:44 PM Re: Wait...what?! [Re: Jayhawk]  
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