#4374338 - 08/14/17 08:36 PM
Re: Wait, don`t forget about Star Trek Discovery
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Is anyone here going to at least watch the pilot episode that will air on CBS? I'll give it a shot. Probably not . . . For me, Star Trek ended (and began) with "These Were the Voyages." Rather than deal with all the political correctness/SWJ nonsense sure to be in this one, I will leave it there . . .
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#4374865 - 08/17/17 02:09 AM
Re: Wait, don`t forget about Star Trek Discovery
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Is anyone here going to at least watch the pilot episode that will air on CBS? I'll give it a shot. Probably not . . . For me, Star Trek ended (and began) with "These Were the Voyages." Rather than deal with all the political correctness/SWJ nonsense sure to be in this one, I will leave it there . . . Agree with you Nimits. Wheels
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#4375082 - 08/18/17 12:19 AM
Re: Wait, don`t forget about Star Trek Discovery
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You realize most of what you mention has nothing to do with the SJW nonsense that many find objectionable, right? If you mean the bi-sexual alternate universe stuff, yes, that was an evil character (in the context of the show) featured in three or four episodes. While I did find it mildly objectionable for bi-sexualism to be featured on an ostensibly family-suitable show, I never felt the writers were requiring me to empathize with or approve of that character's choices. Overall, TNG-ENT had a dozen or so, out of hundreds total, objectionable/"parable" episodes praising homosexuality/transgenderism/global warming hysteria/assisted suicide, mixed in with many good ones, including some (especially TOS and DS9) praising true virtues such as patriotism. It seems like the balance will be way over to the other side, this time.
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#4375106 - 08/18/17 03:37 AM
Re: Wait, don`t forget about Star Trek Discovery
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I forget what sjw even means. LOL I've only seen that here somewhere, is that a SimHQ pwec forum term?
Personally, I'd be just fine if they left sexuality of any kind out entirely. It doesn't really have a place in a semi-military environment IMO, and its all been covered in all forms before. I know, they aren't the military necessarily. Still, I'd like some originality, and no time travel, transporters rendering people immaterial, or teenagers saving the incompetent adults either. You never even see a toilet, why do we need to be included in the sex lives of the crew?
Just have to wait and see. No one's even seen it yet, no need to be negative about it at this point.
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#4375147 - 08/18/17 11:47 AM
Re: Wait, don`t forget about Star Trek Discovery
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I forget what sjw even means. LOL I've only seen that here somewhere, is that a SimHQ pwec forum term?
Personally, I'd be just fine if they left sexuality of any kind out entirely. It doesn't really have a place in a semi-military environment IMO, and its all been covered in all forms before. I know, they aren't the military necessarily. Still, I'd like some originality, and no time travel, transporters rendering people immaterial, or teenagers saving the incompetent adults either. You never even see a toilet, why do we need to be included in the sex lives of the crew?
Just have to wait and see. No one's even seen it yet, no need to be negative about it at this point. SJW = social justice warrior. The sexuality aspect with a science fiction show depends really on WHAT kind of sci-fi you are talking about. The vast majority of the scifi we get on US tv is what I like to call "dramatic and character driven" sci-fi. By that I mean a show that has its focus on the relationship between the different characters and thus is more character driven than plot driven. In those types of shows it makes logical sense to have sexuality since sexuality after all is a big component of the human condition. This is really the type of scifi that "sells" on US television. It also helps explain why we've not seen a tv adaptation for hard scifi stuff like the Foundation series which is overwhelmingly a plot-driven story and thus would not need to involve sexuality since it would really be superfluous.
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#4375722 - 08/21/17 07:07 PM
Re: Wait, don`t forget about Star Trek Discovery
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Personally, I'd be just fine if they left sexuality of any kind out entirely. It doesn't really have a place in a semi-military environment IMO, and its all been covered in all forms before. I know, they aren't the military necessarily. Still, I'd like some originality, and no time travel, transporters rendering people immaterial, or teenagers saving the incompetent adults either. You never even see a toilet, why do we need to be included in the sex lives of the crew?
I agree. Which is why, for example, my favorite Sci Fi movies are things such as Aliens and Wrath of Khan (which, while it admittedly uses transporters and a super-weapon, is otherwise basically just a naval adventure set in space). But, evidently, we are in a minority.
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#4378612 - 09/09/17 02:35 AM
Re: Wait, don`t forget about Star Trek Discovery
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#4378866 - 09/10/17 06:26 PM
Re: Wait, don`t forget about Star Trek Discovery
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Its probably all moot, anyway, since there is no way I am paying for CBS All Access just to watch one show (seriously, if it supposedly that good, show it on prime time, or release via Netflix, etc.); I limit myself to supporting only one blatant money grap at a time (and already paying out the nose for the privilege of watching the NFL, so . . .) but, everything I am hearing continues to reinforce that I will not be missing much by not watching this show.
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#4379991 - 09/17/17 05:18 PM
Re: Wait, don`t forget about Star Trek Discovery
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Just got notice from Netflix, Discovery will be available on Nexflix monday 25th here in Norway (and elsewhere outside the US I assume).
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#4380035 - 09/18/17 12:29 AM
Re: Wait, don`t forget about Star Trek Discovery
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Just got notice from Netflix, Discovery will be available on Nexflix monday 25th here in Norway (and elsewhere outside the US I assume). Yeah, that was I believe reason number one I said "Screw Star Trek Discovery". I'm a paying Netflix customer too, but they apparently think that American customers are dumb enough that they can squeeze an extra $8 a month out of to pay for another pay per view service.
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#4380053 - 09/18/17 05:03 AM
Re: Wait, don`t forget about Star Trek Discovery
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Maybe if they get good numbers everywhere else but crappy in the US they'll release it to Netflix eventually. The only people that will subscribe are the more hard-core fans, but that isn't enough to make a show succeed. Unfortunate that CBS is trying to force their app with this show.
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#4380110 - 09/18/17 04:10 PM
Re: Wait, don`t forget about Star Trek Discovery
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Netflix has been very tight-lipped about what amount of viewers it needs in order for one of their streaming shows to stay in production.
Unless you work for CBS or work for the studio making ST Discovery, it's really anyone's guess if 2 million subscribers are good enough for the show to stick around.
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