#4357443 - 05/15/17 01:40 PM
Re: Who grills & smokes meat & other stuff at home?
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We do here in Germany, but i am really just a beginner. Bought a grill with a lid to shut (Weber 57 centimeters), so you can do indirect grilling and barbecue. One of my favourites are those "Moink" balls (from "moo" and "oink" ). You get grinded beef, and add a bought or self-made rub (e.g. "magic rub") to it. You mix it with the rub, then inject a bit of Jack D. or other whiskey, and then mix it again. You can then create fist-sized portions, and then roll slices of bacon around it crosswise. Then you put it in the fridge for the night. Next day you grill it directly for two minutes, then put it aside from the direct flame, and add a bit of BBQ sauce with a brush. It will then caramelize and be ready in 5-10 minutes. Advantage is you do not need to stand beside the grill all the time, which is of course true for all kind of indirect grilling, or smoking. There are some great recipes, also for hamburgers.. real good beef like rib-eye can also easily be made, direct grilling two minutes each side, then lay it aside and let it grill indirectly for three to seven minutes, depending on how raw or well done you want to have it. It is all much fun and tastes great!
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#4357444 - 05/15/17 01:42 PM
Re: Who grills & smokes meat & other stuff at home?
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We do here in Germany, but i am really just a beginner.
Out of curiosity, where does Germany import most of its beef from? If I'm not mistaken, there really isn't much domestic cattle raising in Germany.
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#4357445 - 05/15/17 01:48 PM
Re: Who grills & smokes meat & other stuff at home?
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Out of curiosity, where does Germany import most of its beef from? If I'm not mistaken, there really isn't much domestic cattle raising in Germany. Huh, we have a lot of cattle here, all kinds of. You can of course buy imported meat (though e.g. Kobe cattle is wayyy to expansive and overhyped i think). Germany has "produced" 8,25 Million tons of meat in 2016. A lot of certain cattle like Wisent and Angus, and so called "Heckrind" ( https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckrind) is currently at a peak, and easy to get.
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#4357446 - 05/15/17 01:51 PM
Re: Who grills & smokes meat & other stuff at home?
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And then it starts..,. First you get the brinkman. Then you buy a Weber Smokey Mountain. Then maybe a horizontal Smoker, or a Drum Barrel Smoker. Then you are lusting after the Komando Grills.... Next something on a trailer.... Aim your browser at www.amazingribs.comThis is Grill School. You can learn everything here. Meathead has a book out and it is the fastest way to learn all the good stuff. I went from a moron with no clue to a guy that people want me to grill for them. Rule 1 you will learn is get a good instant read thermometer. The thermometer on the grills are crap and will ruin your meat because they are usually far off. www.thermoworks.com has a sale today for 15% off. You want their Smoke dual thermometer. $100 You put one probe on grill and one in your roast. Fantastic and no guessing. Start with a pork shoulder. Easy to do hard to screw up. Long cook ant least 8 hours.
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#4357448 - 05/15/17 01:53 PM
Re: Who grills & smokes meat & other stuff at home?
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Huh, we have a lot of cattle here, all kinds of. You can of course buy imported meat (though e.g. Kobe cattle is wayyy to expansive and overhyped i think). Germany has "produced" 8,25 Million tons of meat in 2016. A lot of certain cattle like Wisent and Angus, and so called "Heckrind" ( https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckrind) is currently at a peak, and easy to get. Thanks for that info Catfish. I see I was greatly mistaken. Whenever I finally visit Germany I'll be sure to try a steak on my first day there.
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#4357450 - 05/15/17 02:06 PM
Re: Who grills & smokes meat & other stuff at home?
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[...]Whenever I finally visit Germany I'll be sure to try a steak on my first day there. You are welcome! Just do not eat at those pesky "Autobahn" rest stops, mostly expensive and not worth the money at all. If you're near Hannover let me know. Longbow certainly hit a nerve here I foresee hundreds of answers, just for today lol
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#4357452 - 05/15/17 02:10 PM
Re: Who grills & smokes meat & other stuff at home?
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Longbow certainly hit a nerve here I foresee hundreds of answers, just for today lol I've never met a guy who didn't like a good steak or ribs so I think you are right!
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#4357455 - 05/15/17 02:25 PM
Re: Who grills & smokes meat & other stuff at home?
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A great book to own as a go-to for how and why is this https://www.amazon.com/Cooks-Illustrated-Guide-Grilling-Barbecue/dp/0936184868In this book they do a fantastic job on telling you how and why to grill xxx that way. They setup 10 charcoal and gas grills and try every recipe differently. The explaination on grilled chicken wings is about 4 pages! The thing to learn here is to brine the meat to make it most and juicy. Brining the chicken wings makes a huge difference. This book covers all the meats, sides and rubs/sauces. Between Meathead and this book you don't need anything else. Also the forum on Amazing Ribs is worth joining. Very helpful and you can ask anything.
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#4357456 - 05/15/17 02:26 PM
Re: Who grills & smokes meat & other stuff at home?
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Huh, we have a lot of cattle here, all kinds of. You can of course buy imported meat (though e.g. Kobe cattle is wayyy to expansive and overhyped i think). Germany has "produced" 8,25 Million tons of meat in 2016. A lot of certain cattle like Wisent and Angus, and so called "Heckrind" ( https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckrind) is currently at a peak, and easy to get. Thanks for that info Catfish. I see I was greatly mistaken. Whenever I finally visit Germany I'll be sure to try a steak on my first day there. You'll have more easily pork and sausages (delicious by the way ) and of course a Helles or a Weisse "dazu".
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#4357458 - 05/15/17 02:39 PM
Re: Who grills & smokes meat & other stuff at home?
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We do here in Germany, but i am really just a beginner.
Out of curiosity, where does Germany import most of its beef from? If I'm not mistaken, there really isn't much domestic cattle raising in Germany. What do think happens with the old dairy cows?
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#4357460 - 05/15/17 02:50 PM
Re: Who grills & smokes meat & other stuff at home?
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We use two large terra cota pots (one right side up and one upside down on top of the other), a hot plate, a metal container for the wood and a thermometer to put in the pot on the top for temperature monitoring. We live beside an apple orchard so apple wood is usually there for the taking when they trim or cut the trees. We smoke pork butts in the Fall mostly.
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#4357508 - 05/15/17 06:31 PM
Re: Who grills & smokes meat & other stuff at home?
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I do both. However, i fully admit that I take the easy way out on smoking. My masterbuilt electric smoker makes it really easy to temperature control. Hell I can even control it with my remote without having to step outside.
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#4357559 - 05/16/17 01:04 AM
Re: Who grills & smokes meat & other stuff at home?
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Might as well spray your food with light fluid. Speaking of, never use that either!
I've cleared that myth up with a lot of people over the past 30 years (but yeah I usually prefer a chimney starter for convenience/time). The trick is: 1. Don't hit ALL the coals with it. 2. Let it SOAK into the coals for a couple minutes. 3. Don't cook until the coals are WHITE (yep, a few BTU's of heat are ultimately "wasted"). 4. Know your coals, BBQ, wind, layout, etc so you are NOT EVER having to add additional lighter fluid. You'll never taste it.
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#4357576 - 05/16/17 03:16 AM
Re: Who grills & smokes meat & other stuff at home?
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On Germany and beef:
Yes, they have beef. Good beef. Schwartzwald beef is the best.
No, you can't get an honest steak there for some reason. The mysteries of a big thick ribeye or t-bone continues to elude them.
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#4357579 - 05/16/17 03:42 AM
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I love to run my smoker on the weekends. I started with a Brinkman too! Now I have a Smokin' It Model 1 that I love. Electric with a metal box where you add just a small chunk of the wood of your choice at the start. I'm talking about a small 2"x3" chunk is all you need! I put a pork butt on at 9pm and let it go all night at 230 degrees. Once it is up to pulling temp (about 12 hours later when it comes apart easy), which I check via remote thermometer, I pull it out and wrap in foil, then into a cooler wrapped in towels to rest until it's time to shred and eat. Heaven! Check out this great website for ideas on what and how to smoke: Smokingmeatforums Smokin' It website: Smokin It
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#4357614 - 05/16/17 10:57 AM
Re: Who grills & smokes meat & other stuff at home?
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[...] No, you can't get an honest steak there for some reason. The mysteries of a big thick ribeye or t-bone continues to elude them. I agree that most 'normal' restaurants will not do it 'right', however the trend is going towards well-made steaks everywhere. There are also excellent new Burger restaurants, who offer well-made "real" steaks as well. Also, blockhouse. "Rib-eye" is nothing else than "Entrecôte" (word borrowed from french), and you can also get it everwhere. There is also a lot of very good french beef from that special french cattle, but you often have to order this. There's also excellent french/algerian "Merguez" sausage, for grilling.
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#4358535 - 05/21/17 09:22 AM
Re: Who grills & smokes meat & other stuff at home?
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To echo some, chimney makes getting it started very easy. I use lump, and brand really matters. Some you get lumps, some you get mostly bits, flakes and dust. The other advantage of lump is less ash when doing long smokes like a brisket. In horizontal you can also use wood chunks in part or whole as fuel. Another cheat, you can use a welders blanket over the unit to help retain heat, helpful with thinner gauge metal, or get some unglazed/naked ceramic tile to place within it. Spare ribs are another good option when getting started, simple and fairly inexpensive in the US at least.. Search 3-2-1 ribs and you'll find plenty of pointers.
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#4359159 - 05/24/17 09:06 AM
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#4359197 - 05/24/17 01:46 PM
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Party at WC's place! I've typically used my grill 2-3 times a week, but since getting a cast iron griddle, I've enjoyed it so much it's become my daily driver. Now I want a full size camp chef griddle for outside. Never had a smoker, but would like an electric one day.
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#4359711 - 05/26/17 09:45 PM
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Party at WC's place! I've typically used my grill 2-3 times a week, but since getting a cast iron griddle, I've enjoyed it so much it's become my daily driver. Now I want a full size camp chef griddle for outside. Never had a smoker, but would like an electric one day. On cast iron - I want one of these: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/6ggiONseXig/maxresdefault.jpgThat way I've got the power of the cast iron sear no matter what grill I'm using (or fire for that matter). Actually I'm going to take one of my old Lodge skillets and drill a bunch of holes in it someday to achieve the same thing.
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#4359785 - 05/27/17 03:38 AM
Re: Who grills & smokes meat & other stuff at home?
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I've never "smoked meat," but I won't judge. Hell, I guess what they say is right - twenty bucks is twenty bucks.
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