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#4355358 - 05/04/17 05:20 PM UCR: Maybe a real alternative TARGET for DIY-HOTAS in future  
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Hello to all HOTAS-builders,

as some of you already know (Sokol, Kbird, Taz etc.) I'm building a homepit. The problem with my selfbuilt HOTAS was always to get it compatible with more than only one simulator. Specially some of my older sims I still want to use, cause I love them. My electronics get more and more a real nightmare biggrin , cause I'm already using old components of the gameport era (FLCS/TQS/WCS2) which I combined to "Frankenstein-HOTAS-Boards" with partial USB support (only for the main flight controls).

With older simulations or sometimes also with not so good configurable simulators, you have the problem to get controls configured for inputs which are using axis (potentiometers). In this case it's a real advantage to use a software which is able to program the axis (eg. antenna knobs or something else) to act like you would press simple keys at your keyboard. Sadly only a few, mostly real expensive, HOTAS have a software which allows you to configurate keyboard emulation to your gear.

UCR ( Universal Controller Remapper) can do such things. At the moment its already in a very early state, but in future it could be the poor mens TARGET software. It's also very interesting for people which built their own HOTAS with the use of MMJoy2 or something else. This way you could control functions in your sim which aren't configurable with simple DirectX input, cause the ingame settings do not allow to bind a button or an axis to it. Some things the TM stuff could do are still missing, but I have contacted the author about implementing some few extra features. I hope he will hear my prayers notworthy .

I focused at the "antenna dial" programming (the way it was possible for the old TQS = eg. 1, 2, 3, 4.... .... 4,3,2,1 or + + + + ....
....- - - - and so on) cause I thought its one of the most significant features to have. The " 1, 2, 3-thing is already possible to program, but only for 10 ranges. It's called "axis range to buttons". You could easily modify the AHK-file, so that you could have more ranges.

I also asked to have a feature for mapping defined joystick axes to the mouse cursor. This way you could built a microstick (gamepad thumb stick or PSP mini joystick) for using it with MFD input. I know many people hate the old erazer hat at the TQS, but I really loved it. I never owned a Cougar, so I couldn't tell if the microstick is much better, but I think so. I will use mini joysticks similar to the one the old Sony PSP uses. They are easier to fit to the housing of a throttle quadrant.

I hope UCR will get the missing features in the future, so that I could throw my "Frankenstein-boards" away biggrin . If you only play more modern sims like Falcon BMS, MSFS or IL-2 there is no need for the keyboard emulation orgy, but if you love stuff from the 90's like the Jane's series its really good to have the possibility to bind keystrokes to your controls.

As UCR is the successor of the well known UJR (Universal Joystick Remapper)it has also the features this software had given you (merge axis, split axis, virtual joystick etc.)

P.S: If some of you familiar with coding and the way Autohotkey works, it would be nice to add some work to UCR. The software uses a plugin system and you could make own user-files. As I'm a really great noob in coding, it would also nice to share your progress with me biggrin yep and the rest of the community hahaha wink






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#4355382 - 05/04/17 06:45 PM Re: UCR: Maybe a real alternative TARGET for DIY-HOTAS in future [Re: Viper1970]  
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Viper,

Have you look at Joystick Gremlin - this include functions of Universal Joystick Remapper, Joystick Curves, FreePie, AutoHotkey in one GUI for delivery functions similar to TARGET, Manager.

https://whitemagic.github.io/JoystickGremlin/

#4355391 - 05/04/17 07:23 PM Re: UCR: Maybe a real alternative TARGET for DIY-HOTAS in future [Re: Viper1970]  
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Hello Sokol,

yes I've tried it, but had no success to get it running. It always closes without any message if I try a profile. The last version I had was incompatible with vjoy 2.1.8 and the new one 7.1 simply does not run. Maybe some conflict with one of the other tools I have installed for testing. There is also Pinnacle Game Controller installed, but I will deinstall it soon, cause it's more focused on gamepads than useable for a HOTAS.

Hope I will find a solution for my gear, to be able to come to the new world biggrin . Oh man, I must be a bit crazy! After getting all the old stuff finaly running, I take a look at all and thought that it's no good solution. It's simply to complex. If you want to change the layout for another aircraft to fly, you have to reboot to DOS, program the TM stuff, go back to windows program the rest of the exchangable throttle panel (light, tank, engine switches) and after 20 minutes of fiddling you are ready to fly. No good solution at all. Will end in never changing the HOTAS for the desired aircraft, which is totally opposite to what I want.


CockpitPC1: Ryzen9 5950X|64GB DDR4|512GB M2 SSD|2TB M2 SSD|Geforce RTX3090|Reverb G2|Win11Pro
CockpitPC2: PhenomII X6 1100T|32GB DDR2|2x 2TB HDD|2x Geforce GTX660 SLI|Win7Pro64
ComUnitPC1: Ryzen9 3900XT|32GB DDR4|2x 2TB HDD|Geforce RTX2070|Win11 Pro
ComUnitPC2: PhenomII X6 1100T|16GB DDR2|2x 2TB HDD|Geforce GTX660|Win7Pro64
ComUnitPC3: AthlonII X2 250|2GB DDR2|2TB HDD|Geforce 5950Ultra|2x VoodooII SLI|WinXPPro32&WinME
ComUnitPC4: K6-2+|768MB SDR|640GB HDD|Geforce 256DDR|VoodooI|Win98SE

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