Hi JJJ,love your "roll" mod,I've tried it with the Alb and Neuip17 so far..and it's incredible.

A massive ask I know but..are you working on other craft I'd personally love the other Albs,the Camel and the SE5 ( I know I'm greedy).

All the best in your continued modding work pal

I am glad you like it, Adger. I have waited for public opinion before I continue with other airplanes. Regarding to (although very limited) feedback received so far it seems I am on the right track so I will definitely proceed with modding of remaining aircraft, time allowing.

Thanks JJJ..anybody else using this roll mod? If so please take a few minutes to give feedback to triple J. I personally feel that if I'm using a mod by anybody I at least try to say thank you..A lot of you modders have spent countless hours improving this great sim,surely a bit of feedback or a thanks to the modders isnt to much to ask guys

Thank you for your continued work mate

FYI JJJ has provided a simple utility to add in the roll factor or take it back out . Couldn't get any easier to try and undo if you don't like it. I have been using it for a while now and it's simply brilliant. I see no degrading of the flight controls and the AI hasn't crashed into one another once so far, even when flying in formation in heavy weather. It sure does look scary though! I literally don't want to fly a later year campaign until the rest of the planes get this. You can't go back after experiencing it, IMHO.

Thanks Adger +1. I know for a fact that RAF_Louvert had solicited feedback on his St Omer mod and to date he has only heard from afew.. In fact he probably is wondering if the mod was worthwhile effort.
If a modder indicates he would like some feedback, those that use the mods should make every effort to provide it. That's how we get ongoing improvements. Just my 2 cents!

Robert, I know I've been guilty of that. I download these mods and enjoy them, and I only give feedback when I find something wrong--I never considered at least giving feedback saying that I've used it.

I agree, though, feedback should be given regardless.

Sorry to ask a silly question but where can I get my hands on this roll dampening mod?

Sorry Ace, not silly question at all. This mod was burried in this topic on page two, so here is the download link again:

Roll_mod

Thanks very much JJJ, I'll give it a try and let you know how I go with it.

Ok, I've had a bit of a go at this with the Fokker E.II and it seems pretty good to me so far.

The wind gusts tend to "grab" a wing at random and I didn't find it rhythmic or predictable in any way for my aircraft. Occasionally the way it affected the AI looked rhythmic but I'm convinced that it isn't the mod itself doing this, it's the way that the AI responds that gives this illusion,

Explanation, when the wind drops a wing on my aircraft I respond to it differently every time depending on how severe the effect is. The AI respond robotically, with the same inputs, each time. I feel as though this is what is giving people the impression of rhythm , not the mod itself. Combined with the up/down drafts I found the rhythmic phenomenon to be barely noticeable for the Fokker E.II and the mod to add a great dynamic component to the immersion factor.

That sounds exactly right and mirrors my own experiences, sir. Well thought out and articulated.

Thx for trying the mod and your feedback, AcePilto. Yes, you are right, the AI roll behaviour is caused by AI aileron control in attempt to stabilize airplane under adverse wind conditions. If you feel it is too much, let me know what plane and I can make an adjustment. That is why I asked for more feedback.

I didn't feel it was too much JJJ, but then I've only tried it a couple of times now in a small formation of Fokker Eindeckers (E.II and III's). I imagine that it might have an appreciably different visual effect in a larger formation.

I really like the way it affects the player aircraft! Very convincing.

Hi Jara,

Quick question on your Roll Mod, is your program reading the xfm file and changing only roll related data and then rewriting the file, or is it doing a replace with a new xfm file?

Reason I ask, if I've got an FM mod on a plane (such as rate of climb or top speed - unrelated to roll), will your program overwrite it. I know my mod will overwrite your Roll Mod, as I'm dropping in a new file with JSGME.

So trying to figure out what happens to my FM mod if I run yours on top of mine.

Thanks!

That is the main advantage of Roll Mod - you can use it over any other third party mods - just install your mod(s) and finally apply the Roll mod. Roll mod just reads and overwrites some values in xfm files, as you have correctly assumed.

That's great news, Jara.

Thank you!

Just want to say in all the time I have been flying with this mod, even during heavy winds, I've never had an AI to AI or AI to me mid-air collision, including during tight formations. They bounce around a bit more but they don't lose control. Outstanding work, Jara. I hope more people will try it.

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+1

So good you had to say it twice!

(Sorry, couldn't resist).