#4353620 - 04/26/17 01:18 PM
Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11.
[Re: Dart]
|
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 24,029
oldgrognard
Administrator
|
Administrator
Lifer
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 24,029
USA
|
Dart, it's been over a year since my visit. Surely it's time for me to come back.
Good people sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
Someday your life will flash in front of your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching.
|
|
#4353761 - 04/26/17 09:05 PM
Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11.
[Re: Dart]
|
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 24,712
Dart
Measured in Llamathrusts
|
Measured in Llamathrusts
Lifer
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 24,712
Alabaster, AL USA
|
I think it should be flying before your next trip up!
Right now it's all just airplane pieces scattered around a hangar.
The opinions of this poster are largely based on facts and portray a possible version of the actual events. More dumb stuff at http://www.darts-page.comFrom Laser: "The forum is the place where combat (real time) flight simulator fans come to play turn based strategy combat."
|
|
#4353765 - 04/26/17 09:23 PM
Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11.
[Re: Dart]
|
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 24,029
oldgrognard
Administrator
|
Administrator
Lifer
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 24,029
USA
|
Can you believe over a year ? Man how the time goes by.
Good people sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
Someday your life will flash in front of your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching.
|
|
#4353795 - 04/26/17 11:25 PM
Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11.
[Re: Dart]
|
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 24,712
Dart
Measured in Llamathrusts
|
Measured in Llamathrusts
Lifer
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 24,712
Alabaster, AL USA
|
Yep, that's what it is. But it's to show fuel is flowing. Btw, big smile on doing all the woodwork in the cockpit, burnishing the outside of the aluminum, and not taking some rubbing alcohol to remove the factory stencils on the inside of it. Gotta be a Robert Baslee/Airdrome Aeroplanes construction! Re-polished the crankshaft, polished the inside of the prop hub, heated it to a tad over 400* degrees and she fell right down to the oil slinger like it was supposed to in the first place. While I was waiting on it to heat up on the hot plate, I also put a new big N on the tail. Time to put it all back together! * All the instructions say "heat it to where it will fall down the crankshaft freely." No numbers with that. I called Great Plains and they said "somewhere around 400 degrees." Well, 400 didn't cut it, so I took out my torch and heated her up as evenly as I could to about 475 or so and she plopped right on. The problem, I think, is that the "400" assumes an oven with the whole thing heated up equally. I don't have an oven in the hangar, so I had to make due.
Last edited by Dart; 04/26/17 11:43 PM.
The opinions of this poster are largely based on facts and portray a possible version of the actual events. More dumb stuff at http://www.darts-page.comFrom Laser: "The forum is the place where combat (real time) flight simulator fans come to play turn based strategy combat."
|
|
#4353826 - 04/27/17 02:52 AM
Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11.
[Re: Dart]
|
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,506
Brit44 'Aldo'
Every Human is Unique
|
Every Human is Unique
Member
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,506
|
Dart, I understand about the prop hub stopping upon install, but why did you have to tear down the crankshaft to remove? What you did is called an interference fit., or so I was learned . Be careful how you heat things. You can make them soft or brittle. " "400" assumes an oven with the whole thing heated up equally " You are correct in that it assumes an even heat. If you ever learn how to bore a cylinder, you have already learned how to press a sleeve.
Last edited by Brit44 'Aldo'; 04/27/17 02:55 AM.
TPA who TWI "The 10th Amendment simply says that any powers that aren’t mentioned in the Constitution as belonging to the government belong to the states themselves."
|
|
#4353829 - 04/27/17 03:13 AM
Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11.
[Re: Dart]
|
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 24,712
Dart
Measured in Llamathrusts
|
Measured in Llamathrusts
Lifer
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 24,712
Alabaster, AL USA
|
In order to remove the prop hub which was on half way, I had to use a puller. The only way to get a grip on it was to have the crankshaft out of the engine.
And I needed to inspect the crankshaft and the woodruff key that the hub fits over. The only way to do that is by removing it.
The upside is that I kept the rods, bearings, etc. on the crankshaft so it'll be quick to put it all back together. Clean everything up, put the crankshaft back in (lining it up with the camshaft), mate the case, put the pistons back in the cylinders, wrist pins to rods, heads on cylinders, valve rods and lifters on, carb, oil screen, oil pump, and I'm ready to start thinking about triple checking timing marks and spark plugs...
The opinions of this poster are largely based on facts and portray a possible version of the actual events. More dumb stuff at http://www.darts-page.comFrom Laser: "The forum is the place where combat (real time) flight simulator fans come to play turn based strategy combat."
|
|
#4354275 - 04/28/17 07:32 PM
Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11.
[Re: oldgrognard]
|
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 8,926
ArgonV
Hotshot
|
Hotshot
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 8,926
College Station, Texas, USA
|
Dart, here are a couple pictures from Sun n Fun that you might find interesting. What is the clear tube on the left side of the cockpit in the fourth picture ? Surely it isn't for fuel. Great thread! Been reading through what I missed... I will only chime in to say, that's actually an oil pulsator for rotary engines.
"Go Fly A Kite!" -Jason R. FS-WWI Project Leader FS-WWI Plane Pack SiteIntel i9 10900k Gigabyte Z490 Aorus Elite AC 64GB Corsair DDR4 2933 Vengeance RGB Pro AMD XFX 7900 XTX Merc310 Black Edition LG UltraGear 38GN95B-B 38" monitor Corsair HX1200 PSU 1TB EVO 980 Pro M.2 PCIe x4 SSD 2TB EVO 980 Pro M.2 PCIe x4 SSD Two 2TB EVO 860 SSDs Sound Blaster ZxR Win 10 x64 Pro HOTAS Cougar #4069 w/Uber II Nxt mod #284 & UTM bushings
|
|
#4354346 - 04/29/17 04:06 AM
Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11.
[Re: Dart]
|
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 24,712
Dart
Measured in Llamathrusts
|
Measured in Llamathrusts
Lifer
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 24,712
Alabaster, AL USA
|
Yes, but he's running a VW with a reduction drive.
The opinions of this poster are largely based on facts and portray a possible version of the actual events. More dumb stuff at http://www.darts-page.comFrom Laser: "The forum is the place where combat (real time) flight simulator fans come to play turn based strategy combat."
|
|
#4356558 - 05/10/17 02:53 AM
Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11.
[Re: Dart]
|
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 24,712
Dart
Measured in Llamathrusts
|
Measured in Llamathrusts
Lifer
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 24,712
Alabaster, AL USA
|
Hmmm, let's try this again. Prop hub on the crankshaft? Yep. Everything all lined up and the case put back together? Yep. After torquing the case nuts I stopped for the day. I was getting all scatter brained and started setting things down and forgetting where I put it and not finding things that were right in the open. Not a good way to be when I had the task of positioning piston rings and putting the pistons in the cylinders. Better to call it a day, drink some water, and get something to eat. I borrowed a bit from the instructions on the circle thingie that goes between the flat oil slinger and the prop hub. With it on the crankshaft I couldn't get a good view if the prop hub was fully seated or not when mounting it. It said that it could be split and the join rotated horizontally in the case once joined, so I did that.
The opinions of this poster are largely based on facts and portray a possible version of the actual events. More dumb stuff at http://www.darts-page.comFrom Laser: "The forum is the place where combat (real time) flight simulator fans come to play turn based strategy combat."
|
|
#4358104 - 05/18/17 07:14 PM
Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11.
[Re: Dart]
|
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 24,712
Dart
Measured in Llamathrusts
|
Measured in Llamathrusts
Lifer
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 24,712
Alabaster, AL USA
|
I need a pinion removal tool to back out and re-align the distributor gear...I was off a tooth when I put the darned thing back together. It's on its way and should be here Tuesday or Wednesday. Then it's a matter of putting the bolt into the prop hub (Dave has it to drill a hole for the cotter pin), putting the Diehl case and starter on the back of it, putting the spark plugs in, mounting it on the engine, filling it with oil, and seeing if she'll start and adjust the timing. Getting closer....
The opinions of this poster are largely based on facts and portray a possible version of the actual events. More dumb stuff at http://www.darts-page.comFrom Laser: "The forum is the place where combat (real time) flight simulator fans come to play turn based strategy combat."
|
|
#4360150 - 05/30/17 04:19 AM
Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11.
[Re: Dart]
|
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 24,712
Dart
Measured in Llamathrusts
|
Measured in Llamathrusts
Lifer
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 24,712
Alabaster, AL USA
|
So engine is pretty much done. Just have to put on the valve covers, torque the spark plugs and hook them up, and mount the engine and prop.
Just to show how my "bad luck/good luck" life works, there's a little spring that goes between the cam gear for the distributor and the distributor. Once everything is lined up as it should be, one simply drops it into a hole on the gear and puts the distributor on top of it.
There is a cut in the side of the well where the distributor fits in to meet the gear, no doubt to allow oil in and out, and is about a third the way up from the cam gear. It is horizontal. The spring goes in vertically.
I know that it is the perfect size - not one bit bigger or smaller than absolutely necessary for a zero tolerance fit - for the spring to fit through. The spring fell to its side and I used my little wooden skewer to pick it up and it simply vanished. Gone. Not popped out, just gone.
The spring is in the engine. The tiny half inch long three eighths inch wide spring Is. In. The. Engine.
Breathe.
Flashlight down the hole. Can't see it. Start undoing the bolts to the plate where the mechanical fuel pump would go.
Have my two Pros From Dover gently step in and volunteer, suggesting I sit in a chair and let them do it.* Apparently I looked like I was about to rip the whole thing apart with my bare hands while producing a stream of profanities that would probably take the paint off the cars parked outside the hangar.
Pump plate removed. Flashlight. No spring seen.
Oil filler plate removed. Flashlight. Silence. More flashlight. "Hand me that magnet," Rusty says, and expertly removes it from the bottom of the engine.
So fantastically terrible luck in having the spring go into the engine, but also wondrous good luck that it could be spotted and fished out.
From there things went pretty quickly, and we moved the engine onto a stand over by the aircraft, hooking up various electrical things and turning it over to set the timing. It was off initially, but thanks to the flashy flash gun and an allen wrench, we soon got things right.
* LOL, it's been a long time since I was put in "Time Out."
The opinions of this poster are largely based on facts and portray a possible version of the actual events. More dumb stuff at http://www.darts-page.comFrom Laser: "The forum is the place where combat (real time) flight simulator fans come to play turn based strategy combat."
|
|
#4360834 - 05/31/17 06:47 PM
Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11.
[Re: Dart]
|
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 24,712
Dart
Measured in Llamathrusts
|
Measured in Llamathrusts
Lifer
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 24,712
Alabaster, AL USA
|
Next up is my mildly bent engine mount.
I'm going to try and jury rig a press to see if I can straighten it. If not, then I'll have to make a new one.
The opinions of this poster are largely based on facts and portray a possible version of the actual events. More dumb stuff at http://www.darts-page.comFrom Laser: "The forum is the place where combat (real time) flight simulator fans come to play turn based strategy combat."
|
|
#4361142 - 06/01/17 11:49 AM
Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11.
[Re: Dart]
|
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 24,029
oldgrognard
Administrator
|
Administrator
Lifer
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 24,029
USA
|
Here you go Dart. This would finish off your airplane nicely. http://www.gunbroker.com/Item/650580678
Good people sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
Someday your life will flash in front of your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching.
|
|
#4361516 - 06/02/17 02:53 AM
Re: 7/8 scale Nieuport 11.
[Re: Dart]
|
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 24,712
Dart
Measured in Llamathrusts
|
Measured in Llamathrusts
Lifer
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 24,712
Alabaster, AL USA
|
Holy crap, it would be cool to have one. Even cooler to have the money to afford it. Bonus plan - nobody would suspect it was real.
The opinions of this poster are largely based on facts and portray a possible version of the actual events. More dumb stuff at http://www.darts-page.comFrom Laser: "The forum is the place where combat (real time) flight simulator fans come to play turn based strategy combat."
|
|
|
|