#4352970 - 04/23/17 03:57 PM
Re: Overmodeled Vortices Take 2
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I've taken to heart a recent post by Swordsman speaking on all of the negative comments on the boards which leads me to my question; does anyone know of a solid way to at least MAYBE get this suggestion in front of somebody's eyes at DCS that has a little pull (it's a loooooong shot I know)? 1. Why are you asking that here? 2. Why not post a thread saying this over on the ED forums? And out of genuine curiosity, what aircraft are you flying and how are the vortices affecting your flight? I would've thought these graphic effects happen behind your head and you as the pilot are looking forward...
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#4352983 - 04/23/17 06:16 PM
Re: Overmodeled Vortices Take 2
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Come now Ice, you know the question would result in a ban from that board.
There was only 16 squadrons of RAF fighters that used 100 octane during the BoB. The Fw190A could not fly with the outer cannon removed. There was no Fw190A-8s flying with the JGs in 1945.
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#4352993 - 04/23/17 07:34 PM
Re: Overmodeled Vortices Take 2
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1. Why are you asking that here? 2. Why not post a thread saying this over on the ED forums?
And out of genuine curiosity, what aircraft are you flying and how are the vortices affecting your flight? I would've thought these graphic effects happen behind your head and you as the pilot are looking forward...
I'm asking here because this is home for me and I honestly didn't think about any other "boards". For as long as the internet, sims, and this place have been around, this is where I've always come...it started with the screenshot forum! Sounds like they may not play very nice over in the ED neck of the woods? I've never been over there so I really have nothing to lose so I'll give it a try...thanks for the suggestion. I see the most noticeable difference while flying the A-10C and the worst I've seen is while watching vids of the Viggen, sometimes it looks like she's dumping fuel! True the vortices are for the most part out of direct FOV from the cockpit but I do like an external view flight to take in the beauty of this sim. I know it's not the end of the world but I DO know that there are little things that drive each of us crazy and this is mine LOL Thanks again
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#4353123 - 04/24/17 03:09 PM
Re: Overmodeled Vortices Take 2
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There are a few sides to vortices in DCS: on one hand they are the best graphical representation of the kind of vortices you sometimes see. They are made of a lot of tiny circles, not so obvious to the casual observer though. This kind of vortex is more noticeable in large aircraft. On smaller aircraft, such as fighters, while the vortex is still made of tiny circles, they appear more like a smoke trail, because the circles are smaller and closer together (visually). So IMO what we have in DCS is quite good, in some situations I would say it's spot on, in other situations...a lot less accurate. The vortices are too large in some cases, not white enough, and some tweaking should be done because as you say, just a small pitch-up can cause vortices sometimes. Notice also that in DCS they are depended on humidity (I guess), so if it's raining you'll have a higher chance of seeing them with small movements of the stick. Does anyone know if this is a tweakable effect somehow, through some LUA files?
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#4353196 - 04/24/17 07:33 PM
Re: Overmodeled Vortices Take 2
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Come now Ice, you know the question would result in a ban from that board. Really? I thought it was the way thoughts and ideas were presented and not the ideas themselves... I'm asking here because this is home for me and I honestly didn't think about any other "boards". For as long as the internet, sims, and this place have been around, this is where I've always come...it started with the screenshot forum! Sounds like they may not play very nice over in the ED neck of the woods? I've never been over there so I really have nothing to lose so I'll give it a try...thanks for the suggestion. Fair enough. Do post over in the official boards though. It is the best way to get your questions answered and get it "officially" on the ED radar. As Krazi said and you might be well aware, tread carefully over there. They don't like people challenging their norms unless it is prefaced with a lot of apologies, praise for the sim, and a decent amount of grovelling. See Frederf's post above for possible outcomes... though there is a 5th possibility and you'll get the response you want, but don't hold your breath on that one.
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#4353348 - 04/25/17 10:12 AM
Re: Overmodeled Vortices Take 2
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I noticed on the Open Conflict server, in a thunderstorm, the F-5 wingtip vortices were visible on the ground while taxiing.
Somethings wrong... Yeah, I noticed that a lot too, it's definitely wrong. That's why I think in general, the whole vortices thing needs to be tuned, but I also think it depends on the aircraft. Some modules seem to develop vortices much more easily, which is not wrong because in reality it is the same, but maybe it means that there are some individual parameters that are tunable for each module. Just speculating here.
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#4353408 - 04/25/17 02:11 PM
Re: Overmodeled Vortices Take 2
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I noticed on the Open Conflict server, in a thunderstorm, the F-5 wingtip vortices were visible on the ground while taxiing.
Somethings wrong... Better start your research for your PhD-level argument lest you get shown the door...
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#4353501 - 04/25/17 09:46 PM
Re: Overmodeled Vortices Take 2
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I noticed on the Open Conflict server, in a thunderstorm, the F-5 wingtip vortices were visible on the ground while taxiing.
Somethings wrong... Better start your research for your PhD-level argument lest you get shown the door... LOL
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Exodus
by RedOneAlpha. 04/18/24 05:46 PM
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