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#4348981 - 04/04/17 02:19 PM Still another WOFF moment.  
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Good day folks.
Last night I had one of the most hair raising moments, or the latest one anyway, that I can remember. Flying a Pup in May 1917 we were tasked with destroying a balloon southeast of Monchy. I was flying #3 in a flight of 4 armed with rockets. All went well with no contact while descending toward the target. About 5 miles away at about 10,000' I looked around and my wingman and #4 were gone. The flight leader was still headed toward the balloon. I kept looking around and soon saw 5 planes mixing it up behind me and at a little lower altitude. 3 against 2 so figured I would even things up. I peppered one and he went packing. Above, my mate was going round with a DIII so in I went and scored some hits. He went down and away with my mate after him. Looking around again I found my other mate in a tangle with the third one. I went to join and was soon on his tail. My accuracy is about 24% but with the new head shake it is more spray and pray. Close on his tail and shooting in long bursts he finally nosed over and went down. I pulled up and before I could have a good look around tracers fly by my head and audible hits on my machine can be heard.

Now it gets real interesting. I find myself in a circle with 5 DIII's about a mile the other side of the lines. "this might be it" me thinks! We circle and circle. I finally get a line on one and when I press the trigger there is dead silence. Out of ammo! This is not good! While circling around with the 5 wondering how in the world I can get out of this mess it dawned on me I still have my rockets. During the next few circles I pulled back hard on the stick until my machine was pointing in their direction and let loose with my rockets. I didn't hit anything but they scattered like a covey of quail! I took that moment to head west at full throttle and even remembered to hit "full rich" on the mixture as we had lost altitude. They did not stay scattered for long and 4 soon were gaining on me. I would turn and go head to head with them, narrowly missing a collision, wing over and head west again. I lost count of how many times I did this, gaining a few yards west each time. On one bluff when I turned into them and came around I saw two of them have a slight collision. One went down and the other left. Now I am left with 2. One of them soon gives up but the last one will not give up. I finally reached out trenches and the ground fire sent him back home. Once safely across the lines and no EA in sight I let out a sigh and noticed my stick hand was cramping up. Swapped hands for a bit and made it back to our field.

I learned upon landing that my wingman and one of my flight mates would not be coming home. The other, an HA was wounded but will be back.

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#4349002 - 04/04/17 04:16 PM Re: Still another WOFF moment. [Re: MFair]  
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Don't you just love those moments!! Nice report Sir, I enjoyed it thoroughly!

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#4349104 - 04/04/17 11:29 PM Re: Still another WOFF moment. [Re: MFair]  
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Excellent tactics and great story MFair!

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#4349116 - 04/05/17 12:36 AM Re: Still another WOFF moment. [Re: MFair]  
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Great story! I agree with the 'head shake' change. The 'head shake' definitely changes how I shoot, now. I used to use the open sights (or the telescopic sight on Allied birds) but not any more. It's too hard to line them up. I shoot like I do archery. It's a Zen kind of thing. Sorry to get off topic but is there a way to reduce the 'head shake'?

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#4349121 - 04/05/17 01:20 AM Re: Still another WOFF moment. [Re: MFair]  
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Nice, MFair, but I must say, 24% accuracy? If I make 10%, I am thrilled! hahaha salute

#4349123 - 04/05/17 01:30 AM Re: Still another WOFF moment. [Re: MFair]  
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Rick, I'll say! MFair, that was one heck of a story. I tensed up just reading it!


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#4349138 - 04/05/17 02:27 AM Re: Still another WOFF moment. [Re: MFair]  
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Terrific story and a great job getting home!

#4349210 - 04/05/17 01:26 PM Re: Still another WOFF moment. [Re: MFair]  
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Thank you for the comments Gents! I don't know if anyone ever used rockets against a flock of Albatri but it was the only trick in the bag. Rick, I checked my accuracy for this pilot and it is down to 14%! see you all in the skies.


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#4349260 - 04/05/17 03:38 PM Re: Still another WOFF moment. [Re: MFair]  
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Yarn of the month award materiel if you ask me. Good show!


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#4349283 - 04/05/17 04:54 PM Re: Still another WOFF moment. [Re: ARUP]  
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Originally Posted by ARUP
Sorry to get off topic but is there a way to reduce the 'head shake'?


Robert Wiggins created a JSGME mod that allows you to easily adjust it. Or you can just entirely eliminate it by changing the "headshake" value in the file to zero, which is what I've done. You can find it on Sandbagger's mods site: http://www.thatoneplease.co/indexWOFF.html


Its the "WOFF UE custom settings for the d3d8.dll file" one, quite a ways down the page.

#4349364 - 04/05/17 09:14 PM Re: Still another WOFF moment. [Re: MFair]  
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Good Show, old boy

#4349392 - 04/05/17 11:29 PM Re: Still another WOFF moment. [Re: MFair]  
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Ripping good yarn MFair, describing another one of those white-knuckle rides this wonderful sim is famous for.


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#4349459 - 04/06/17 12:35 PM Re: Still another WOFF moment. [Re: MFair]  
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Great write up - I have posted before about Sir Gordon Taylor's write up in his book Sopwith Scout 7309 with a similar situation, many Albatros aircraft and all he could do is out turn them whilst in his Pup low over the lines, and try to gain a little ground towards home on each turn. He was also very lucky though as he had tail damage but stil made it back as his mechanic had fitted extra tail controls (without his knowledge)..
Great stuff!


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#4349612 - 04/06/17 11:43 PM Re: Still another WOFF moment. [Re: MFair]  
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Riveting Read Mfair! Thanks for sharing. Too often (well, few and far between when it happens) I fail to share some interesting tales of my own.
However its nice to see others are!
Gotta watch those close scrapes!!! duck Statistics will catch up with you and one day it'll be a hard smash!


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#4349686 - 04/07/17 01:01 PM Re: Still another WOFF moment. [Re: MFair]  
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Thanks Gents. But the real question is did anyone ever use rockets against other aircraft! Jenks, yes, statistics will catch up with me, they always do!


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#4349802 - 04/07/17 10:59 PM Re: Still another WOFF moment. [Re: MFair]  
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Wait, are you asking if any historical pilot ever used rockets, or if it's possible to use rockets successfully in game? If it's the former, I don't know. If it's the latter...

#4349836 - 04/08/17 03:51 AM Re: Still another WOFF moment. [Re: Rick_Rawlings]  
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[quote=Rick_Rawlings]Wait, are you asking if any historical pilot ever used rockets, or if it's possible to use rockets successfully in game? If it's the former, I don't know. If it's the latter...


Well I think, one of your bullets richochet off of the side of a rocket and hit him in the vitals!! Excellent deflection technique Rick!! biggrin

Ok, Ok, I can't prove it, so I will abide by your judgement!! yep


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#4349866 - 04/08/17 12:33 PM Re: Still another WOFF moment. [Re: MFair]  
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MFair,

I read somewhere that Albert Ball once let his Le Prieur go at a formation of Albatri and broke up the formation without hitting anything. To my knowledge that's the only use not involving a captive balloon or airship.

#4350228 - 04/10/17 03:05 PM Re: Still another WOFF moment. [Re: Raine]  
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Originally Posted by Raine
MFair,

I read somewhere that Albert Ball once let his Le Prieur go at a formation of Albatri and broke up the formation without hitting anything. To my knowledge that's the only use not involving a captive balloon or airship.


Thank you Sir! I was wondering if it had happened in real life. Nice to know. Had never used them against planes before but it was my only option and was in a bit of a pickle!


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#4350259 - 04/10/17 04:53 PM Re: Still another WOFF moment. [Re: MFair]  
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This question reminded me of an after action report I read back in 1982. A British battalion during the Falkland War came under air to surface attack from Argentinian jets. They had not landed their AA weapons yet and found that their most effective defense was firing paraflares in volleys. The Jets broke away, not wanting to suck a flare into their intakes.

I've wondered why HD fighters didn't use LePrieurs to break up Gotha formations over England.

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