It took me some time to realize that perhaps the flight model I am getting in my installation is not the one intended. I reinstalled the game some time ago, but think it used to be like these before, too. I have searched the net and found quite a few number of reports on that issue, but no satisfactory solution. I am using T-Flight X HOTAS and it works great in most of the sims I am flying - had to invert the axes in F/A-18 Hornet PSF and use two other pieces of software like Joystick Curves and the like for Digital Integration F/A - 18 E Super Hornet , bu that's all. However,, F-15 is simply unplayable as it seems; I can't stabilize the VV enough to land on numerous attempts and while in flight the jet is behaving like an overloaded lorry on a mountainous track, the nose keeps bobbing like hell., even if equipped with guns and Sidewinders only. Actually it's the last flight sim to fly on my list - it's not the navy aviation after all - and I know that lots of missions from F-15 trickled into F/A-18 Iraqi addon, but thought it won't hurt to be able to fly an Eagle. So far it's a waste of time. I am using the game on Win7 X64, Nvidia graphic card, the drivers for the joy are in place, I was trying with various in-game flight model options, but the bobbing issue has never gone away a single time.

Do you have v1.17 patch installed? I can't remember if it changed anything to the FM, but I was able to land easily each time. I did altered the joystick curves in game options though since the plane is very twitchy and can increase AoA very fast. The default corve setting is just too sensitive. Note that I have the same joystick as you. Also bear in mind that you have to be very gentle on the controls - at corner speed if you yank the stick full back you will bleed off speed instantaneously.

Hi, burroughs,

Seems to me - though I may be wrong - you're running an 'unpatched' version (1.02 ?). As mentioned above you might want to get the 1.17 patch installed.

Anyways, I thought I'd give you a link to some interesting article 'Jane's F-15 to the max' featured on the archives from the good old website Combatsim : http://www.combatsim.com/memb123/archive/htm/htm_arc2/f15max4.htm
You'll find a picture showing some custom settings for the joystick in Jane's F-15. It's kind of small to look at but you can make out the values if you pay enough attention to it.

Finally, I'll point you towards one of my posts summarizing some of the improvements and changes brought by the 1.17 patch : http://SimHQ.com/forum/ubbthreads.p...u-usaf-working-under-seven-6#Post3860369

Hope that helps,

Fly safe,

Andro.

Thanks guys. The game is and had been previously patched to 1.17, too. I am slowly digesting the content and input you have kindly provided. Well, so far I have adjusted the joystick curve in the game controller setup, but it was of little use so far - perhaps I should not be landing with full combat gear, but that's just theory - in practice this bird could be just returning from an armed reconnaissance mission which proved to be cold. Anyway, I still can observe the nose bobbing, just gentler perhaps. On final approach I need to work the stick to keep that from diving in a growingly uncontrolled manner, the A0A is about 20 by then and I cannot even see the VV aligned with the glideslope and the centerline., it's somewhere right beyond the cockpit frontal field of view. Every other landing attempt ends in a crash and if I succeed it's like landing in an early naval Phantom - no sight of the strip.

I could not log in here for some time ... Odd or not?

By the looks of it it seems to me you try to land on specific speed which is a bad habbit. You should forget about the speed and land on AoA. The appropriate landing speed is tied to gross weight, but the AoA should be always the same regardless of weight. So if you have lots of fuel and didn't spent your loadout, you might found yourself landing @200kts. As long as sink rate is not exceeded, you should be fine.

Also if you have patch installed you should check out the patch.txt file in your install directory. There are plenty of useful info about the changes, such as:

That would get the job done on most occasions according to what i have tried so far, but I must admit I am a bit puzzled by the way it works. I can remember that there was a remark somewhere that a real-life F-15 E pilot once praised the way the game models the aircraft, but that was before the later patch. Was that patch 1.17? Besides I had an impression that the patch somehow eased the way the aircraft was handled and that diminished the realism of the simulation. Well, that's likely, but it's hard to say that it's easier in any way.

However, the sim is too good to be left out as it seems so I hope that it's just the practice which makes best.