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#4359811 - 05/27/17 09:31 AM Re: VKB MCG - Modern Combat Grip [Re: Sokol1]  
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Any chance of a left hand version like Virpil offer? - seriously considering a left and right for my Warthog and FSSB Cougar bases...

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#4359839 - 05/27/17 03:02 PM Re: VKB MCG - Modern Combat Grip [Re: Sokol1]  
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I think they plan make a specific grip for left hand, optimized for space games.

#4359922 - 05/28/17 10:11 AM Re: VKB MCG - Modern Combat Grip [Re: Sokol1]  
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Thanks, good to know.

#4360032 - 05/29/17 12:34 PM Re: VKB MCG - Modern Combat Grip [Re: Sokol1]  
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Google Translator - Recently posted in IL-2.ru, about "to do":

"As for design work.
Work began on the left handle kosmosimov (based at the MCG). Watch for announcements.

Speaking about the plans, but this year we have a pretty tight schedule Design. Work on the 4 types of handles:

- Handle for left hand at the MCG basis (we do not make a complete mirror copy) for the dual-stick (HOSAS) configurations
- Handle for left hand "kosmosima" (as it is called by our foreign clients). A completely new concept, HOSAS hybrid and HOTAS.
- Handle throttle for modern combat aircraft
- Metal components for aircraft of World War II: KG12Pro + throttle handle."

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#4362050 - 06/05/17 12:31 PM Re: VKB MCG - Modern Combat Grip [Re: Sokol1]  
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Thanks for the extra info' - good things on the horizon.

As an aside, Both the MCG and the Virpil version are compatible with the Cougar base as well as the Warthog.

However, since the Cougar doesn't support the button press on the side CMS thumbstick, I assume that means that whatever button is electrically wired to that switch when using a Warthog base is then redundant and non-functional if using a Cougar base?

Just thinking my FSSB Cougar base would make a great left hand control for Star Citizen, Elite etc.

#4362102 - 06/05/17 04:12 PM Re: VKB MCG - Modern Combat Grip [Re: Magic Man]  
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Originally Posted by Magic Man

However, since the Cougar doesn't support the button press on the side CMS thumbstick, I assume that means that whatever button is electrically wired to that switch when using a Warthog base is then redundant and non-functional if using a Cougar base?


Yes, since this button surpass Cougar base possibility became non-functional. In Virpil T50 grip is button 7.

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#4362195 - 06/05/17 09:03 PM Re: VKB MCG - Modern Combat Grip [Re: Sokol1]  
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Thanks for the reply. Perhaps may need to look for new base as well then or second Warthog base.

#4362223 - 06/05/17 10:17 PM Re: VKB MCG - Modern Combat Grip [Re: Magic Man]  
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Originally Posted by Magic Man
... then or second Warthog base.


A bit more expensive (than Warthog base), but the right base:

https://virpil.com/en/shop/sticks/vpc-mongoost-50-base-vpc

#4362596 - 06/07/17 03:59 PM Re: VKB MCG - Modern Combat Grip [Re: Sokol1]  
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Yep smile thanks.

#4362899 - 06/09/17 05:09 AM Re: VKB MCG - Modern Combat Grip [Re: Sokol1]  
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Are the VKB sticks and the Virpil similar in terms of build and quality? I'm slowly planning a replacement stick for my X52 pro .nd I want something of better quality and above all that can be extended to be mounted from the ground for my minimal VR cockpit setup, so I've been looking at the Gunfighter and because of this thread I'm now discovering the Virpil range too

#4362951 - 06/09/17 12:28 PM Re: VKB MCG - Modern Combat Grip [Re: FlyingMonkey]  
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Originally Posted by FlyingMonkey
Are the VKB sticks and the Virpil similar in terms of build and quality? I'm slowly planning a replacement stick for my X52 pro .nd I want something of better quality and above all that can be extended to be mounted from the ground for my minimal VR cockpit setup, so I've been looking at the Gunfighter and because of this thread I'm now discovering the Virpil range too


I cannot speak for Virpil, but I own a TM Warthog, and VKB rudder MK III and Gunfighter. I've owned Saitek in the past--including the X52. VKB is many orders of magnitude superior to Saitek. The VKB rudders are excellent in all respects. My only issue with them is that they lack toe brakes. The Gunfighter is similarly excellent with its metal cam gimbal system and contactless sensor. The KG style grip for the Gunfighter, however, is plastic (with the exception of a metal trigger), but feels sturdy with no flex or give if held firmly. The grip buttons also seem very good but I have no idea of their internals.

Virpil looks very interesting and I would like to get their throttle system as it looks more versatile than the TM (which is also very good). But I haven't heard much about Virpil; I think they are selling their stick portion of the HOTAS now but I don't know anyone who has one.

The problem with waiting and planning is VKB does not produce a steady supply (expect for rudders it seems) of their high end gear, so if you don't order during their production windows you can be left without that option for a very long time.

#4364232 - 06/16/17 03:58 AM Re: VKB MCG - Modern Combat Grip [Re: Sokol1]  
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Thanks for the info Pugio. I'm well aware of the issues with VKB supply and how each time they've got a product you've got to jump on it and purchase within a day or a short time. I had the money ready for a full length stick a while ago but at that stage they had stopped selling sticks (after the mamba I think) so I patiently waited for the next one and got ready for the Gunfighter. But the wait was long, the HTC Vive ended being my major investment last year and when the Gunfighter finally came I hesitated and it was sold out before I made a clear decision. I like to keep a well planned budget and allocate these sort of expenses in advance - with VKB for while it was difficult to predict when the Gunfighter would appear so I did not plan it as something set in stone. Now with a 1 month old baby girl, I find myself even more careful about how I spend my money, so I'm still not sure what to do with the stick project. Maybe I'll keep using my X52 pro for a bit longer after all, and then I'll get to see whether VKB start having a more constant offer or whether Virpil is worth considering too.

#4364245 - 06/16/17 06:08 AM Re: VKB MCG - Modern Combat Grip [Re: Pugio]  
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Originally Posted by Pugio
[quote=FlyingMonkey] The KG style grip for the Gunfighter, however, is plastic (with the exception of a metal trigger), but feels sturdy with no flex or give if held firmly. The grip buttons also seem very good but I have no idea of their internals.


VKB buttons use OMROM (Japanese) switches - similar type used in CH and VirPil grips.

#4370365 - 07/21/17 03:51 PM Re: VKB MCG - Modern Combat Grip [Re: Sokol1]  
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Originally Posted by Sokol1


Prototype.


Any idea when their replica human hands will go into production? It's clearly quite articulate!

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#4373516 - 08/09/17 02:53 PM Re: VKB MCG - Modern Combat Grip [Re: Sokol1]  
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For "Greek and Trojans" hand sizes:

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#4374388 - 08/15/17 01:45 AM Re: VKB MCG - Modern Combat Grip [Re: Sokol1]  
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Now that I've got a Gunfighter Pro (which I absolutely love), I might get the MCG grip if their shipping to Oz is reasonable.

#4376044 - 08/23/17 02:40 PM Re: VKB MCG - Modern Combat Grip [Re: Sokol1]  
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#4376083 - 08/23/17 07:10 PM Re: VKB MCG - Modern Combat Grip [Re: Sokol1]  
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Quick question and apologies if it's been asked before, but are there any plans to make an F-16 stick? If not, why not? What's stopping you guys from making one of the most in-demand stick grips?


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#4376101 - 08/23/17 09:10 PM Re: VKB MCG - Modern Combat Grip [Re: Sokol1]  
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In iL2.ru forum they say that don't make sense make what Thrustmaster already make, so no F-16, F-18.
But VKB (and VirPil) offer support for Tm grips. Warthog grip standalone can be bough from Tm for around $120.

And this MCG is more versatile than "F-16'ish" grip, fit for more planes/games, probable interest more players that this in-demand of Falcon 4.0 players. wink

For similar reason they opt in not make a "replica" of Su-27 stick.


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