I see, so you have absolutely zero first hand experience with any DCS modules since 2011. Now I understand your lack of a coherent discussion.

Ok guys, but what is with the "I don't buy it" thing?
Even bad publicity is publicity, isn't it?
In my opinion ED doesn’t need any more publicity.
I will not buy any overpriced module or map anymore. It’s really so easy.
Ed looks like a drug dealer with a too big mouth just a short time before he will get a big slap in his face. I have a feeling we will see this in a short time; can’t last so long anymore.
They act right now like a publisher with too many open bills and some guys sitting in their back and swing a racket spiked with those open bills.
The first thing those guys say is:
“rise your #%&*$# prices… NOW and spilt all you can.
You need DLC, DLC and … DLC.
And use micro transfers; 1 Module without any campaign; separate the ai; and textures, and modules and sell it as something good.
Someone wants to add a dedicated server? Ok, let him pay for all the stuff he doesn’t need. And if enough people has different servers with different modules ALL have to buy all of the stuff to play this game online. There is a new sp campaign? Here we go the same way as before and the best point is…. You are the good guy because the other guys creating the campaigns or the server stuff will get butt hurt. So ED.. that’s your win win situation (if the guys on the other side are blind white knights or junkies)."

We can't do anything against it. We only can wait and see what's happen.
I think it doesn't look good in many ways for ED.
The game is a big mess in many directions.
The campaigns are mostly "out of order".
Many modules are not working like they should.
Every patch[/u] add several old and new bugs to the game only to put a new AC into the game.
Every second announcement is an announcement of a delay![u]
And so on…..

So... if you don't like it, don't buy it... and watch the train wreck.... or the phoenix... who knows?

I don't have to buy any modules past that date. There's enough people posting first-hand experience to create a clear picture of the current state of DCS. Please feel free to point out where my discussion points are not on-target regarding DCS.... until you do, I suggest you go and play with little kids and leave the grown up discussion to the grown ups. I'm tired of having to call the Waaahmbulance...

Enjoy your Lays potato chips!

Hahaha!! Indeed! If you don't like it, don't buy it!

Then there are people here who think first-hand experience and actually OWNING a module is needed for your opinion to count. Why should I waste my money when I can do two clicks on the internet and find out what the module is a waste of money? Do I have to burn my cash as well in order to call a module bad? It's thinking like this that allows ED to thrive.

I've seen ED start to go down this route way back then... I only need a few moments to confirm that they're still going down this route and even forging new frontiers on their way down. I don't need to waste a single cent of my hard-earned money to do this.... I'd rather give my coins to the bum on the street corner. A hot cup of coffee will do him more good and will contribute to the positivity of the world than giving it to ED.

The fact that you refer to him as bum is very telling. Thanks for the insight.

Pffft!! Yeah, concentrate on the fact that I referred to him as a "bum" rather than some other term that is more in line with your sensibilities. Nevermind the fact that I'm giving him money, helping him out. Selective reading much? Oh, yeah, you go out of context to snipe at other posters because you can't handle the CONTENT of their posts. Thanks for the insight!

The salt bottle just fell down the TV

Oh my what have I done!

Looking at your posts, I just thought we were posting random incoherent stuff.

Looks I was right.

I guess you missed all of David_OC's posts.

Also, do you have something to contribute to the thread or are you just here to fling your poop around?

I think any hobby can become expensive if you pursue it to any decent level. My first telescope cost about $150 but I ended up sinking thousands into Astro-imaging. Learning to fly costs thousands and yet I did that as a hobby/pastime even though I really wasn't earning much (but I fly for a living now so I guess it wasn't a waste of money in the end).

This is so true! Heck, in pursuit of my simulation hobby, I needed to learn how to work with wood and had to buy the necessary tools as well. An el-cheapo £20 drill that goes on/off was okay, but when I bought a B&D one for £35, the ability to control the speed of the drill based on finger pressure on the trigger made life so much more easier. I can also make cuts using a jigsaw, but using a circular saw was easier. Both were then trumped when I got a router.

However, it's not really the expense that people are lamenting about. People are not exactly complaining about the 1080 or 1070 that they are buying to run this sim. It's the fact that even at $60 or $50 or $40, the sim does not feel "worth it".... for reasons that have been repeated so many times. If ED cleaned up their act and sorted out those concerns, these complaints would go away. I'd happily pay for £100-150 for a good meal for the family at a nice place and it'll be money well spent. £40 at McDonalds? YGTBSM!!

That depends on if you consider McDonalds to be a good analogy for DCS. Personally I think it is pretty amazing, but we both know that our positions on that are polar opposite.

And im somewhere between you two, i love and hate dcs 50/50 ... if only falcon BMS will get VR support , then i dont have to play dcs until its fixed enough for me ( 90% of my hate is because dcs AI is so bugged that making missions is pain in my butt)

I wish they could make the maps a little better in BMS and not have so much repetition to the look of the land and cities. VR support would be good, you would think flyinside would go after this market if they could.

The world would be a different place if we had a combat sim like F4 with its Dynamic Campaign and with DCS visuals, well most of the time, they seem to be playing with things at the moment.

Not a direct comparison, no. Just comparing paying for a nice meal at a fancy place and then paying too much for "junk food." McDonalds, Burger King, take your pick. Not that fast food isn't "amazing," it can be especially when you're hungry at 4am and everywhere else is closed.... but again, I was comparing cost vs. what you get for the money.


The new Korea map has removed a good deal of the repetition... and then I suggest you look at the 3rd-party add-on maps and then tell me if you still have this "repetition" issue

In my opinion , its not worth it unless it had a good discount

Remember, unless you are an elected official, you have no business criticizing elected officials. You don't have the knowledge or experience necessary to know what they should or shouldn't do.




The Jedi Master

And unless you have actually EATEN poop, you can't ever say "This tastes like #%&*$#!!"