#4339531 - 02/22/17 07:17 PM
Re: First cast pic for the Young Han Solo film
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I had no idea that Emilia Clarke will be in it!
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#4365227 - 06/21/17 01:14 PM
Re: First cast pic for the Young Han Solo film
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Yeah I read about that too this morning. Apparently they had constant clashes with Kathleen Kennedy due to creative differences.
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#4365236 - 06/21/17 01:35 PM
Re: First cast pic for the Young Han Solo film
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Disney wants to bring the more conventional family type adventure to this movie. Rumor is that these directors wanted to do a "Pirates of the Caribbean in Space" kind of deal. Which is terrible, because the story of how a man becomes a smuggler should not be light in tone. I wonder if Han would have gone "Yipeee!" when he is doing the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.
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#4365237 - 06/21/17 01:38 PM
Re: First cast pic for the Young Han Solo film
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Which is terrible, because the story of how a man becomes a smuggler should not be light in tone.
Agreed. That corroborates the other rumor that the directors were making the film much lighter in tone compared to the script as written by Kasdan and his son. If that is indeed the case then the firing was the right decision.
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#4365240 - 06/21/17 01:54 PM
Re: First cast pic for the Young Han Solo film
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Does Han Solo really need an origin story? In "Hope", he was pretty much a Yojimbo-like character, and one of Yojimbo's defining traits is that his origin is shrouded in mystery. The audience never learns his backstory, which would have been totally unnecessary for the plot. I don't like what Lucas did to the character in "Jedi" (and in part already in "Empire"). I'm certain I'd like what Disney will do to the character a lot less. Before the great culling of the EU, we knew enough backstory, IMO. Dropped out of the Imperial Academy (hence his uniform trousers with the "Correllian Blood Stripe", whatever that is) due to him witnessing the treatment of Wookie slaves, rescuing Chewie, winning the Falcon in a Sabbac game from Lando. That's quite enough. If they absolutely have to make a Han Solo standalone, show some pre-"Hope" Solo badassery. How he got into his troubles with Jabba. Or take Brian Daley's three novels. Or make up some stories that show the type of Han that shot Greedo first. For all I care, they could even take the Yojimbo or Sanjuro plot and modify it "for Space". I have a bad feeling about what Disney is going to do with the character. I'm afraid all of the above would be better choices of what I fear Disney will do. I hope I will be proven wrong.
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#4365244 - 06/21/17 02:01 PM
Re: First cast pic for the Young Han Solo film
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Does Han Solo really need an origin story? In "Hope", he was pretty much a Yojimbo-like character, and one Yojimbo's defining traits is that his origin is shrouded in mystery. The audience never learns his backstory, which would have been totally unnecessary for the plot. I don't like what Lucas did to the character in "Jedi" (and in part already in "Empire"). I'm certain I'd like what Disney will do to the character a lot less. I really like your comparison of Solo to Yojimbo and I agree that not every character in an established universe needs a fully fleshed out origin story. Actually, the same thing applies to Boba Fett.
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#4365246 - 06/21/17 02:03 PM
Re: First cast pic for the Young Han Solo film
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[ Actually, the same thing applies to Boba Fett. Yes, absolutely. Probably even more so. Although, that character was pretty much "ruined" for me by Lucas (Prequels and Clone Wars animated series), in the same vein as he ruined Vader, by showing us a bratty, whiny kid version.
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#4365255 - 06/21/17 02:24 PM
Re: First cast pic for the Young Han Solo film
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It's just stunning to me that these issues were not identified and corrected much, much earlier into the shoot.
Anyway, the exec producer not liking some of the performances and not liking the action sequences does not equate to a box office loss. People will still go see this in droves and it will make money.
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#4365257 - 06/21/17 02:30 PM
Re: First cast pic for the Young Han Solo film
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IAnyway, the exec producer not liking some of the performances and not liking the action sequences does not equate to a box office loss. Kathleen Kennedy is not only the executive producer, she is the head of Lucas Entertainment and head of Creative for Star Wars with Disney. She has final say and can kill the project if she thinks it would hurt the brand. So they better make something that she likes.
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#4365261 - 06/21/17 02:40 PM
Re: First cast pic for the Young Han Solo film
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Kathleen Kennedy is not only the executive producer, she is the head of Lucas Entertainment and head of Creative for Star Wars with Disney.
She has final say and can kill the project if she thinks it would hurt the brand. So they better make something that she likes.
Yes, but her not liking something in the movie does not mean that the general public won't like it either. There is no hard evidence to prove that direct relationship.
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#4365299 - 06/21/17 04:14 PM
Re: First cast pic for the Young Han Solo film
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I'm assuming that the actor who got the role of Solo auditioned for it and that the role wasn't just given to him outright like what happens in some other films. This guy isn't Tom Hanks or Al Pacino!
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#4365571 - 06/22/17 07:22 PM
Re: First cast pic for the Young Han Solo film
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Well, Kershner was in part responsible for the direction the Han Solo character took. You know, the one Ford came to loath and couldn't wait to have killed off. I heard something similar regarding actors and Francis Ford Coppola in Apocalypse Now. So if actors want to kill themselves or their characters...it must means the movie is really good.
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