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#4336558 - 02/12/17 01:18 PM The Blue Max Over Flanders Fields  
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I have a very silly question.

If someone were so inclined to attempt to recreate the story of Bruno Stachel from the film (and novel) The Blue Max, roughly what time and what Jasta would be the most appropriate to do so?

#4336562 - 02/12/17 01:25 PM Re: The Blue Max Over Flanders Fields [Re: The_3rd_Guru]  
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You can't. Ursula is still not in the game.


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#4336580 - 02/12/17 02:11 PM Re: The Blue Max Over Flanders Fields [Re: The_3rd_Guru]  
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According to the scene in the movie where Otto is standing in front of the pilot roster as he talks to Bruno, they are Jasta 11...but as we all know, that can't be as he eventually is visited by MvR himself and asked to join his Jasta. Also, they fly a totally non-historical lozenge pattern, which makes it more difficult.


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#4336581 - 02/12/17 02:15 PM Re: The Blue Max Over Flanders Fields [Re: The_3rd_Guru]  
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You're safe using...
Jasta 3, 9, 16b and 23b. I say these because for the most part, they are not flashy and use mostly base colors for the squadron. Plus they are in the area that Otto points to as he shows Bruno their patrol sector.

OvS


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#4336592 - 02/12/17 03:24 PM Re: The Blue Max Over Flanders Fields [Re: OvStachel]  
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Originally Posted By: OvStachel
You're safe using...
Jasta 3, 9, 16b and 23b. I say these because for the most part, they are not flashy and use mostly base colors for the squadron. Plus they are in the area that Otto points to as he shows Bruno their patrol sector.

OvS


Ah! Thank you very much.

I supposed anyone who chose their name as OvStachel would be the man to ask!

#4336615 - 02/12/17 05:21 PM Re: The Blue Max Over Flanders Fields [Re: The_3rd_Guru]  
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Whats the use of playing if Ursula not in the game. darkcloud

#4336660 - 02/12/17 08:21 PM Re: The Blue Max Over Flanders Fields [Re: The_3rd_Guru]  
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I just watched it...great movie.

As for timing, he's around but still pretty new when he meets the Red Baron who dies on April 18, 1918.

Later, in the big German push (right around the hour mark) someone yells, "We've taken Bapaume". Presumably this was on March 24, 1918 (According to Wiki).

It sounds like the point where Stachel disobeys his CO is during the 100 days offensive which began on August 8, 1918.

So that should frame it a bit for ya.


#4336750 - 02/13/17 01:47 AM Re: The Blue Max Over Flanders Fields [Re: The_3rd_Guru]  
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Thank you for the time suggestions, Deacon. All of those make sense. Basically, you and OvStachel did the leg work I was too lazy to do! But I really appreciate the help.

So let me sum up just in case anyone else is as silly as me:

The Bruno Stachel Experience

Time Frame: February 1918
Best Squadron: Jasta 12 or Jasta 34

And if anyone is interested I made an aged photo of Bruno Stachel:




[Edit: Sorry, I meant to say that OvStachel helped me, too, but I got confused. I've edited my post to correct this. Sorry, OvSatchel! I really did appreciate your help!)

[Edit 2: I updated to a higher-resolution picture of Bruno Stachel.]

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#4336751 - 02/13/17 01:51 AM Re: The Blue Max Over Flanders Fields [Re: The_3rd_Guru]  
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Yeah... no Ursula 'Undress' Andress! The CO's wife is prettier!

#4336793 - 02/13/17 06:21 AM Re: The Blue Max Over Flanders Fields [Re: The_3rd_Guru]  
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@the_3rd_Guru...

Yes... I have a definite interest in seeing you do this... LOL!

My Jasta 13 D.VII, with Blue Max wings and markings. I've been flying this one for 2 years now.. smile

OvS



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#4336796 - 02/13/17 06:52 AM Re: The Blue Max Over Flanders Fields [Re: The_3rd_Guru]  
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#4336798 - 02/13/17 07:01 AM Re: The Blue Max Over Flanders Fields [Re: The_3rd_Guru]  
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Anytime Baby!

LOL!


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#4336802 - 02/13/17 07:42 AM Re: The Blue Max Over Flanders Fields [Re: The_3rd_Guru]  
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Ok I'm in...but we need hard dates/timings perhaps like R is R campaign


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#4336817 - 02/13/17 09:49 AM Re: The Blue Max Over Flanders Fields [Re: OvStachel]  
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lederhosen, Ha! I never thought my question would encourage other people to do the same! My silly madness is contagious, I think!


Originally Posted By: OvStachel
My Jasta 13 D.VII, with Blue Max wings and markings. I've been flying this one for 2 years now.. smile






OvStachel, do you have any accurate skins from the movie that you can share?

For that matter, are there any authentic Blue Max skins available anywhere for Wings Over Flanders Fields? (I've never tried those player-created skin packs on the mods page. I know that Rise of Flight has some Blue Max skins available.)

#4336842 - 02/13/17 12:01 PM Re: The Blue Max Over Flanders Fields [Re: The_3rd_Guru]  
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I'll have a look and could make my own skin


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#4336861 - 02/13/17 12:59 PM Re: The Blue Max Over Flanders Fields [Re: lederhosen]  
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Originally Posted By: lederhosen
Ok I'm in...but we need hard dates/timings perhaps like R is R campaign


Yeah, that's true, and the ultimate goal should be getting the Blue Max, of course.

Originally Posted By: lederhosen
I'll have a look and could make my own skin


I'm going to take a look at the Blue Max skins from Rise of Flight, and maybe I can adapt their elements to skins in Wings Over Flanders Fields. However, I'm pretty poor at making skins, and, unfortunately, there aren't any layered templates available. I really wish there were as it is kind of frustrating making skins using the dds files in the sim's folders.

#4336890 - 02/13/17 02:50 PM Re: The Blue Max Over Flanders Fields [Re: The_3rd_Guru]  
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its not mine, I just found it today




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#4336900 - 02/13/17 03:06 PM Re: The Blue Max Over Flanders Fields [Re: The_3rd_Guru]  
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T3G, you really should watch the wonderful skinning tutorial that Rick Rawlings created. Creating skins isn't really that difficult, it just requires practice like everything else. Anyway, the tutorial is awesome and you can find it in the FAQ thread at the top of the page.


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#4336912 - 02/13/17 03:40 PM Re: The Blue Max Over Flanders Fields [Re: Banjoman]  
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Originally Posted By: Banjoman
T3G, you really should watch the wonderful skinning tutorial that Rick Rawlings created. Creating skins isn't really that difficult, it just requires practice like everything else. Anyway, the tutorial is awesome and you can find it in the FAQ thread at the top of the page.


Hey, Banjoman,

Oh, I did watch it! And I've read his whole tutorial post in detail. I've actually been making tons of skins for my L'Escadrille Américaine pilots (and myself). But, you know, I am just not a visual artist, and while I can do some really basic edits to these skins, I just don't have the computer graphic skills to edit things in any kind of detail. Rise of Flight offered skinning templates for all of their planes. These had multiple layers, and, even for me, they were simple to change. With using the Wings Over Flanders Fields pre-existing dds files, I am just not able to create the skins that I'm imagining. I just don't possess those skills.

#4337054 - 02/13/17 09:46 PM Re: The Blue Max Over Flanders Fields [Re: The_3rd_Guru]  
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almost got it right...but I just thought of a way to fo it better.





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