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#4334752 - 02/05/17 02:52 AM AI Beats Some of the Worlds Best Poker Players As The Computer Began To Learn More and More Each Day of the Tournament  
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On Day 1, it had played well, but it wasnt impressive, Les said. Whats impressive is how this thing has learned and evolved, how much better it has gotten every day.

"Machines have learned a lot about how to play games. Twenty years ago, they figured out checkers, and 10 years ago they toppled the Russian grandmasters of chess. Even Chinas game of go has been solved. But poker remained firmly in the hands of humans"

By the end of the 20-day competition, the AI called "Libratus" was declared the winner, up more than $1.7 million in chips. This is a major milestone for AI, said Andrew Ng, a computer scientist at Stanford University who followed the tournament.



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#4334798 - 02/05/17 01:07 PM Re: AI Beats Some of the Worlds Best Poker Players As The Computer Began To Learn More and More Each Day of the Tournament [Re: Haggart]  
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AI is serious trouble for competitive advantages

it's worth investing heavily into AI companies, but you might want to use AI to analyze your stock purchase first.. seriously!

#4335288 - 02/07/17 01:32 PM Re: AI Beats Some of the Worlds Best Poker Players As The Computer Began To Learn More and More Each Day of the Tournament [Re: Haggart]  
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Interesting thought VF9_L. For years of course brokers and others have been using software programs to assist them in making client investment decisions. The extent to which more advanced AI may someday make buy, sell or hold calls though is intriguing.


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#4335289 - 02/07/17 01:39 PM Re: AI Beats Some of the Worlds Best Poker Players As The Computer Began To Learn More and More Each Day of the Tournament [Re: Haggart]  
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Were they trying to make that woman look like Caprica Six in that pic? She looks a bit like Tricia Helfer.

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#4335467 - 02/08/17 12:28 PM Re: AI Beats Some of the Worlds Best Poker Players As The Computer Began To Learn More and More Each Day of the Tournament [Re: Haggart]  
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The matter with AI playing these sort of games, being it chess or cards (including poker) is that these games (or other similar ones) have a limited number of possible moves and as such there's also a limited number of possible actions (even if we're talking about large thousands of possible moves) and therefore you can compute all those possible moves and actions into a dedicated "AI" and since computers can access memory banks (where the moves/actions are stored) much faster than humans then there's no surprise that an AI can beat the "best humans" in such games.

However if we're talking about games which aren't limited by a number of strict moves/actions and where you can always devise and come up with new and very different actions like for example in an open world simulator than I'm sure the result would be far different (and definitely not favourable to the AI).

Honestly I don't think that we're seeing that much of an AI evolution nowadays as the media likes to report. To be honest I don't think we're having an evolution at all in terms of AI - We just need to look at computer games which traditionally are the "vanguard" of AI technology and if we look at this example (computer games) I would even say there's a stagnation or even a small step backwards in terms of AI evolution.

Now the great technological advance of nowadays is IMO the electronic component miniaturization or the so called nanotechnology which allows for example an AI that previously in order to run it would require a somehow big computer like a desktop or even bigger now this same AI can be fitted in much smaller computers that can be fitted inside the head of humanoid robots or even inside a small drone/UAV.
As such I believe that many people confuse this with an actual AI technological advancement.

#4335517 - 02/08/17 03:23 PM Re: AI Beats Some of the Worlds Best Poker Players As The Computer Began To Learn More and More Each Day of the Tournament [Re: Haggart]  
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It's this an annual AI event of some sort? I believe 2/10 is the anniversary of the Big Blue chess win.


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#4335765 - 02/09/17 02:33 PM Re: AI Beats Some of the Worlds Best Poker Players As The Computer Began To Learn More and More Each Day of the Tournament [Re: Haggart]  
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Nanotechnology in my opinion is not the only significant technology helping to advance AI. We're also making significant advancements in physical mobility of machines as well as technology designed to make processing units aware of their surrounding physical environments

The AI evolution is under way and when you start looking around at companies like Nvidia and other tech companies whose stock is really beginning to surge you start to see the trend


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#4335866 - 02/09/17 08:08 PM Re: AI Beats Some of the Worlds Best Poker Players As The Computer Began To Learn More and More Each Day of the Tournament [Re: Haggart]  
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Originally Posted By: Haggart
Nanotechnology in my opinion is not the only significant technology helping to advance AI. We're also making significant advancements in physical mobility of machines as well as technology designed to make processing units aware of their surrounding physical environments


Well I believe that you are actually agreeing with me, albeit and apparently a bit "unconsciously".
We already had excellent AIs in the recent past (likely better than many AIs developed today) which were well aware of their surroundings. For example I like to mention the AI from SWAT 3 and 4.
However this AI is only aware of their surroundings in a virtual world/map.

However nanotechnology allows the development of much better sensors while at the same time being much more compact/smaller which makes the AI much more "aware" of a real world surrounding and at the same time nanotechnology also allows the development of much better and again much more compact/smaller and effecient actuators which together with the ability to store the AI routines in very small spaces and together with the previously mentioned superior and compact sensors allows the AI a much better mobility in the real world.


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