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#4325356 - 01/02/17 06:54 PM Re: No Bombing missions in WOFF UE? [Re: ricnunes]  
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First of all thanks for the replies.

@Fullofit,

Yes, recently I created a Gotha pilot and in this case I had no problems in being assigned a bombing mission. I guess that here there's no surprise since the Gotha squadron where I created the pilot had the main role of "Heavy Bombing".

Regarding the RFC 70, no I really didn't get any bombing missions at all. However there's a thing that I done differently from you which is that I haven't actually played the missions. I just generate them, either by getting out and in again from the campaign and mission briefing screens and/or by manually advancing the campaign either by flight, by day, by week and in a couple of occasions even by month.

This is really odd indeed and if this is due to being "unlucky" than I guess that I'm the most unlucky guy in the whole world frown


By the way and for curiosity what's the rank of your pilot?


@Stache,

Thanks for the reply but that's really weird indeed.
I also played with the 8th Aero and here I played a considerable number of missions but I also didn't get any bombing missions.
Actually the reason why I'm now trying the 166th Aero is that the 8th is called a "Recon" squadron and the 166th a "Bombardment" squadron and as such I hoped to have a better chance to get bombing missions with the later squadron (166th).

Like I asked Fullofit, what's the rank of your pilot?

#4325362 - 01/02/17 07:24 PM Re: No Bombing missions in WOFF UE? [Re: ricnunes]  
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But that's the thing. 166th is listed as recon or bombing and if the attitude is defensive then it'll probably be recon only, I suppose. I'd give 166th a pass if you want to bomb something.



I've used the default rank, so whatever the lowest one is for the given service.


Now this is strange. You've said you used the time-advance button. I seem to be missing that one and assumed it was removed. I know I used to have it, but now it's missing. What gives?


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#4325368 - 01/02/17 07:36 PM Re: No Bombing missions in WOFF UE? [Re: Fullofit]  
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You need to turn on manual advance in the workshop.


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#4325375 - 01/02/17 08:34 PM Re: No Bombing missions in WOFF UE? [Re: ricnunes]  
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Thanks Stache! Totally forgot about that!


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#4325376 - 01/02/17 08:34 PM Re: No Bombing missions in WOFF UE? [Re: ricnunes]  
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Originally Posted By: ricnunes
However there's a thing that I done differently from you which is that I haven't actually played the missions. I just generate them, either by getting out and in again from the campaign and mission briefing screens and/or by manually advancing the campaign either by flight, by day, by week and in a couple of occasions even by month.


ricnunes, if you are not successfully completing assigned missions this may be part of your problem. WOFF has a propensity to keep assigning you very similar missions over and over until you get it right. Sometimes it will even tell you in the briefing that because you didn't succeed the last time HQ needs you to fly the exact same mission again as it is vital that you complete it.

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#4325490 - 01/03/17 10:43 AM Re: No Bombing missions in WOFF UE? [Re: ricnunes]  
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Originally Posted By: ricnunes
First of all thanks for the replies.

@Fullofit,

Regarding the RFC 70, no I really didn't get any bombing missions at all. However there's a thing that I done differently from you which is that I haven't actually played the missions. I just generate them, either by getting out and in again from the campaign and mission briefing screens and/or by manually advancing the campaign either by flight, by day, by week and in a couple of occasions even by month.



Voila, you need to actually fly, and complete missions - or at least attempt them properly - or WOFF will insist you actually do the damn mission!
You can't skip missions and pretend you don't want to fly those, that's the whole point of WOFF you are a cog in the war not someone who is controlling it or winning it wink


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#4325525 - 01/03/17 01:43 PM Re: No Bombing missions in WOFF UE? [Re: ricnunes]  
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Before I reinstalled the game (using the tips from FAQ Section 17) I played lots of missions and attempted to complete them (most of the times successfully, I believe) and it was after playing mission after mission that I actually noticed this issue (no Bombing missions).

But I admit that I haven't played actual missions that much after reinstalling the game so when I get some free time I'll try to fly (and complete) the proper missions in order to see if something has changed. I'll report my findings.

Anyway, thanks for the replies, help and heads up.


@Fullofit,

I'll give the 166th squadron "a pass" and play with another one as you suggested, thanks for the reply.

#4326528 - 01/06/17 11:52 PM Re: No Bombing missions in WOFF UE? [Re: ricnunes]  
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OK, finally a casual Friday and as such finally some free time to play WOFF UE smile

After patching up to version 4.12 (and after all the steps that I've taken before which were already I posted here) I decided to start a new pilot, this one from the 8th Aero flying the DH.4 and starting from August 31th since after this date this squadron starts to have an "Offensive Attitude" and as per Fullofit's suggestion a squadron having a "Defensive Attitude" could be a reason why so few (or none) Bombing missions would spawn.

So after starting a new campaign with the 8th Aero and of course successfully ending all the missions (or at least trying to) that would spawn in the meanwhile, I finally got a Bombing mission on my 4th mission/sortie! thumbsup boing





I don't know if the issue where I didn't have any bombing missions before was "cured" by a proper reinstall and as such it was due to a bad installation or due to other reasons but anyway, thanks for help and for the information that you actually have to end a mission in order to "progress" to other new kinds of missions - Somehow I got the idea that the type/kind of WOFF missions where generated "randomly".


Anyway if I still believe that Bombing missions should spawn more often in WOFF UE - Like something closer to 50%, specially when flying 2 seater bomber/recon aircraft or at least give the player such an option. How's that for a future request? wink

Nevertheless, I'm happy that I finally got a bombing mission smile

#4326534 - 01/07/17 12:32 AM Re: No Bombing missions in WOFF UE? [Re: ricnunes]  
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Oh and as a side note, that Bombing mission was a blast! thumbsup

The target was an enemy airfield located well inside enemy lines.

On route to target and already well inside enemy territory my flight composed by two (2) DH.4 accompanied by an another flight from my squadron or two more DH.4 and escorted by an escorting flight of 5 (five) SPAD XIII from another squadron (Esc 92) was jumped by a flight of around 6 to 7 enemy Fokker D.VII.

The escorting flight rushed to engage those enemy Fokkers and as such they managed to keep the enemy away from the us (the DH.4 bombers) and despite getting the order (by looking at the Tactical Display) to retreat back to friendly lines I (and as the leader) decided to press on the attack.

Once I got near the airfield I saw a group of 5 (five) enemy Fokker D.VII taking off. Unfortunately I was too high at the time which took me some time to get lower and as such I wasn't able to bomb the enemy aircraft before they took off. However me and my wingman eventually got at a lower altitude (in order to have a better bombing precision) and we were able to hit and destroy at least a few Hangar tents and likely other stuff around the tents.

However the "sh*t hit the fan" once it was time to return to base! When trying to escape away from the enemy airfield and back to base I was jumped by a few Fokker D.VIIs - presumably the ones that I saw taking off earlier - one of them closed me head to head and I was able to hit him a few time before we ended up crashing against each other (despite my best attempts to avoid him) but to my surprise, my plane apparently didn't take much damage apart from stiffer controls, namely on the ailerons thus making the aircraft harder to turn) but the enemy aircraft got some severe engine and/or fuel related damage and then caught fire - Last time I saw it, it was spiralling and burning towards the ground - YAY, one claim for me - The first one by the way! smile

However the celebration was cut short when more Fokker D.VIIs (at least a couple of them) jumped on me and "sprayed" my plane (which by now it didn't turn that well) with bullets and thus filling it with bullet holes, wounding me and my gunner in the process. All I could do and fortunately managed to do, was to perform an emergency landing (behind enemy lines). I was even able to avoid A FENCE at the last minute (by narrowly flying over it) and finally landed the aircraft.

Since I was wounded, I was sent to (an enemy) hospital where I spent six days recovering. Fortunately in the process I was able to seduce a gorgeous nurse which helped me escape just after being discharged from the hospital and thus in theory I only spent "one day" in captivity.

Here's the mission debrief:


#4326535 - 01/07/17 12:34 AM Re: No Bombing missions in WOFF UE? [Re: ricnunes]  
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Ricnunes, glad you got your problem sorted out. (Got to love that bombing accuracy percentage - are you trying to win the war by yourself?) As to the bombing mission frequency, I suppose it depends what's happening around you. Is there a major offensive going on nearby? Don't know about 50% but take look at the log below. Nothing but bombing missions.



Good luck and check six (and twelve).


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#4326543 - 01/07/17 01:11 AM Re: No Bombing missions in WOFF UE? [Re: Fullofit]  
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Originally Posted By: Fullofit
(Got to love that bombing accuracy percentage - are you trying to win the war by yourself?)


LoL! Hell yeah biggrin


I guess I was lucky and hit an area of the airfield with lots of enemy stuff/objects around.

But I also believe that there's and another factor which together with the "luck factor" played an important role in this bombing result - The 230lb bomb! And the DH.4 carries two (2) of them.

Besides also the default bomb load for this mission was two (2) 125lb bombs but "of course" I changed it to two 230lb bombs biggrin

This bomb surely looks to be a "beast of a bomb", this of course taking into account a WWI standard.
For example, if I'm not mistaken the Stutter's maximum/"best" bomb load is 4 (four) 80lb bombs, correct?


Originally Posted By: Fullofit

As to the bombing mission frequency, I suppose it depends what's happening around you. Is there a major offensive going on nearby?


No, I don't think there is.


Originally Posted By: Fullofit

Don't know about 50% but take look at the log below. Nothing but bombing missions.

Good luck and check six (and twelve).


Cool!! I hope some day to have as many or as frequent bombing missions like the ones you're experiencing thumbsup

#4326576 - 01/07/17 06:09 AM Re: No Bombing missions in WOFF UE? [Re: ricnunes]  
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The 166th Aero arrived very late on the scene, and did not see a lot of action, as reflected in WoFF. However, every bombing raid they made is there, starting on 18 October '18.
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#4326773 - 01/08/17 01:00 AM Re: No Bombing missions in WOFF UE? [Re: Shredward]  
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Originally Posted By: Shredward
The 166th Aero arrived very late on the scene, and did not see a lot of action, as reflected in WoFF. However, every bombing raid they made is there, starting on 18 October '18.
Cheers,
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Sure, however I was referring to when the Realistic Mission option (in the Workshops) is set to "OFF".
In this case whatever the squadron did historically shouldn't matter that much or shouldn't affect the missions spawned to that squadron.

What it seems to me (although I could be wrong) is that there doesn't seem to be much of difference between setting the Realistic Mission option either to "OFF" or "ON".

#4326810 - 01/08/17 05:27 AM Re: No Bombing missions in WOFF UE? [Re: ricnunes]  
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Originally Posted By: ricnunes

there doesn't seem to be much of difference between setting the Realistic Mission option either to "OFF" or "ON".


This.

Also, it has caused me many moons of frustration trying to make my custom mission files consistently work. For example, even if set to "OFF", it will try to locate a Reccy mission, and throw an error if it can't find one. It would be a nice feature to have the "OFF" allow random missions.

In the older game (OFF-BH&H}, it worked where I could fill a mission file with only solo, or escort, or bombing missions and it would work.

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I would also like to add that I can somehow confirm Fullofit's comment/finding that a squadron with a "Defensive" Attitude won't get (or likely won't get) Bombing missions.

For example I started a campaign with the RNAS-8 flying the Strutter 1/2 from the 25th of October where I always got missions such as Recon, Artillery Spotting and Patrol Behind Friendly Lines until the 3rd of November.
On the 3rd of November my pilot was wounded and spent 6 days in hospital.

When my pilot returned to active duty (on the 9th of November), I instantly received a Bombing Mission!


Therefore and having in mind what Fullofit said about the "Defensive" and "Offensive" Attitude of a squadron, I noticed that the RNAS-8 has a "Defensive" Attitude from the 25th of October (the very beginning) until the 3rd of November. After the 3rd of November the RNAS-8 Attitude is "Offensive".

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Originally Posted By: OldHat
This.

Also, it has caused me many moons of frustration trying to make my custom mission files consistently work. For example, even if set to "OFF", it will try to locate a Reccy mission, and throw an error if it can't find one. It would be a nice feature to have the "OFF" allow random missions.

In the older game (OFF-BH&H}, it worked where I could fill a mission file with only solo, or escort, or bombing missions and it would work.[/size]



Hi OldHat,

Thanks for the reply and to somehow confirm my "theory" or "findings" about the Realistic Mission option apparently not changing the way on how missions are generated in WOFF UE.

I also had the idea that in OFF-BH&H I could spawn any kind of mission within of course the capabilities of the aircraft/squadron being flown at the moment.

I believe it would be great to have this feature/capability back when the Realistic Mission option is set to "OFF".

#4328461 - 01/14/17 12:05 PM Re: No Bombing missions in WOFF UE? [Re: ricnunes]  
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Originally Posted By: ricnunes
I would also like to add that I can somehow confirm Fullofit's comment/finding that a squadron with a "Defensive" Attitude won't get (or likely won't get) Bombing missions.

For example I started a campaign with the RNAS-8 flying the Strutter 1/2 from the 25th of October where I always got missions such as Recon, Artillery Spotting and Patrol Behind Friendly Lines until the 3rd of November.
On the 3rd of November my pilot was wounded and spent 6 days in hospital.

When my pilot returned to active duty (on the 9th of November), I instantly received a Bombing Mission!


Therefore and having in mind what Fullofit said about the "Defensive" and "Offensive" Attitude of a squadron, I noticed that the RNAS-8 has a "Defensive" Attitude from the 25th of October (the very beginning) until the 3rd of November. After the 3rd of November the RNAS-8 Attitude is "Offensive".



As a side note to the quoted part above, I can now confirm that I'm getting more bombing missions (and a very good number/percentage of such missions) while flying for the RNAS-8 with the Strutter 1/2 from November 3rd onwards. smile

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