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#4326515 - 01/06/17 10:42 PM Re: Emergency Jettison vs Ext. Fuel Tanks Jettison? [Re: Wedge]  
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A bit offtopic but concernic the emergency jett button

What is the material that covers the button?

When you press it it seems to be like you broke some glass. I guess it's not glass because it would be diffucult with 1 finger...?


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#4326624 - 01/07/17 03:49 PM Re: Emergency Jettison vs Ext. Fuel Tanks Jettison? [Re: Wedge]  
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Interesting. I thought it was just a button, and the "safety feature" was that you just needed to hold the button in; ie, no accidental ordnance drops due to an accidental momentary button press. Plus I think the button itself is flush with the panel so you can't "brush" against it and accidentally press it.

I don't think there's "glass" that you'd have to "break" to press it. Not a good idea inside a fighter aircraft's cockpit, especially for the pilot's fingers or eyes! Where did you get that "breaking glass" sound?

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#4326705 - 01/07/17 07:52 PM Re: Emergency Jettison vs Ext. Fuel Tanks Jettison? [Re: Wedge]  
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no sound is heard
and on the 1st/2nd and 4th pics you posted you can clearly see that something is covering the button
Maybe some kind of plastic film?






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#4326712 - 01/07/17 08:12 PM Re: Emergency Jettison vs Ext. Fuel Tanks Jettison? [Re: Wedge]  
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Interesting! I've never looked at that button after pressing it... so weird that I realize that only now. I do hope it's only a plastic film like clingfilm or something like that, just a little barrier. Like I said, I don't think "breaking" a solid plastic/glass protector is a good idea in a fighter cockpit, but a cellophane-type material should be okay. Maybe a question for the real Viper drivers!

EDIT: Posted a query on the official forums!

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#4327747 - 01/10/17 10:43 PM Re: Emergency Jettison vs Ext. Fuel Tanks Jettison? [Re: Wedge]  
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thx for getting banned to know the answer lol neaner


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#4327751 - 01/10/17 11:18 PM Re: Emergency Jettison vs Ext. Fuel Tanks Jettison? [Re: Wedge]  
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Haha!! Glad to have helped! Apparently, one of the mods there didn't like being "disobeyed." mycomputer


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#4327857 - 01/11/17 01:01 PM Re: Emergency Jettison vs Ext. Fuel Tanks Jettison? [Re: Wedge]  
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I dunno if it's better or worse than the DCS foras. But since the users are not customers but essentially freeloaders of others' work, they have no right to have free discussions to begin with, if the discussion doesn't please the ppl who do the work and their friends.
That there is the BMS forum.

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#4327947 - 01/11/17 08:11 PM Re: Emergency Jettison vs Ext. Fuel Tanks Jettison? [Re: Wedge]  
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Well, the discussion had absolutely nothing to do with mods or their friends until they chose to step in. Even the guy I was "arguing" with thought that the thread was fine and didn't need mod intervention.

Still better than the DCS forums though! biggrin


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#4328089 - 01/12/17 01:43 PM Re: Emergency Jettison vs Ext. Fuel Tanks Jettison? [Re: Wedge]  
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Huh

But not MUCH better from the looks of things... burnout

#4328104 - 01/12/17 02:52 PM Re: Emergency Jettison vs Ext. Fuel Tanks Jettison? [Re: Wedge]  
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What do you mean?


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#4328111 - 01/12/17 03:15 PM Re: Emergency Jettison vs Ext. Fuel Tanks Jettison? [Re: Wedge]  
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Well

Years ago i was banned from DCS forums for simply asking wether or not they planned to ever make a campaign engine for their software.

I used FALCON 4.0 as a reference to what i was aking and was INSTA BANNED duh

Sadly i see this same stinking attitude still lurks in BMS forums today... cheers

#4328125 - 01/12/17 04:23 PM Re: Emergency Jettison vs Ext. Fuel Tanks Jettison? [Re: Wedge]  
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I'm not surprised re: DCS forums, but I'm not sure what you mean regarding BMS forums....


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#4328135 - 01/12/17 05:14 PM Re: Emergency Jettison vs Ext. Fuel Tanks Jettison? [Re: Wedge]  
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What i mean is simply this...

BOTH DCS and BMS are a bunch of Tossers. biggrin

#4328150 - 01/12/17 06:02 PM Re: Emergency Jettison vs Ext. Fuel Tanks Jettison? [Re: Wedge]  
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I kinda got that feeling, what I wanted to know was why you felt that way regarding BMS forums


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#4328161 - 01/12/17 06:43 PM Re: Emergency Jettison vs Ext. Fuel Tanks Jettison? [Re: Wedge]  
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Too many CHIEFS and not enuff INDIANS...

Lets just say i had a couple of little fallouts with a few of their devs years ago.

Zaggy is sound though,At least he can work out his diff"s without backstabbing.

Bah all water under the bridge now anyway. popcorn

#4328163 - 01/12/17 06:56 PM Re: Emergency Jettison vs Ext. Fuel Tanks Jettison? [Re: Wedge]  
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Yikes...

I didn't realize they were so heavy handed over there. The thread started to get a little sticky but was rounding out fine towards the end. I'm not sure that thread would have incurred bans at the DCS forum...locked maybe...but bans?


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#4328171 - 01/12/17 07:44 PM Re: Emergency Jettison vs Ext. Fuel Tanks Jettison? [Re: Wedge]  
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I see what you mean. Maybe that's changed now?

Force10, yeah, their mods can be a bit funny... I was banned before for replying on an open thread, but I was replying to a banned user. Can't remember the justification for that.


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#4328453 - 01/14/17 10:50 AM Re: Emergency Jettison vs Ext. Fuel Tanks Jettison? [Re: - Ice]  
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Originally Posted By: - Ice
Well, the discussion had absolutely nothing to do with mods or their friends until they chose to step in. Even the guy I was "arguing" with thought that the thread was fine and didn't need mod intervention.

Still better than the DCS forums though! biggrin


Jezz, I don't know!

I think we finally have a winner on the "most ridiculously moderated forum" -> BMS!
IMO this is worse than everything I seen so far in DCS moderation and I've seen some very ridiculous "scenes of moderation" in the DCS forum.

Let's resume: the discussion between Ice and Blu3wolf (in the BMS forum) got a little bit heated (but only a little bit) but without any disrespect.
Then, both (Ice and Blu3wolf) admitted that their discussion was becoming a bit heated and apologised each other and the end result was: THEY WERE BANNED! LoL how's that for a ridiculously moderated forum??

Congrats to the BMS forum moderation - They managed to become more ridiculous than the DCS moderation, a feat that I considered to be IMPOSSIBLE! eek

#4328463 - 01/14/17 12:11 PM Re: Emergency Jettison vs Ext. Fuel Tanks Jettison? [Re: Wedge]  
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Well aware BMS mods are very very sensitive but this lock'n'ban is an all-time-low to be honest.
Really can't put my finger on the initial "take it to PM boys" to begin with.

Forums are getting more weird every day - maybe I am getting way too old.

#4328476 - 01/14/17 02:32 PM Re: Emergency Jettison vs Ext. Fuel Tanks Jettison? [Re: Wedge]  
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/rant

It is not that hard to understand if you think about it. Y'all are guests at the charity of the bms group - remember one pays *nothing* to get the game mod. The forum hosting and maintenance bills also come outta their own pockets. And note that they don't take donations from the public, nor allow payware addons. So behave, smile, say thank you and sing praise, get along with everybody, respect the host's authority, better yet put the host on a pedestal. If you wanna fight and make a mess in my house, then gtfo.. I think that's the gist.

So when it comes down to it, one can say it is 100% justified. It is not a forum for open debates. It is not your traditional, consumer facing, product support/discussion forum where you can talk about even some politics. There is no such supplier-customer, capitalistic, relationship. If you like my stuff then i'll take your thank-yous; if you have a problem with it, you will still like it; if you don't like it, i don't wanna bloody hear it; if you say it, gtfo.

I don't like it one bit. As much as I like modding, this part definitely not. You can't just expect everybody to be "mates" with you and everybody else much less on the internet, even less on an internet forum which is intrinsically negative. It seems to be a common problem with free modding groups where open debates are usually stymied and average users can be justifiably.. trolled. I believe open discussions and criticism although ugly at times are necessary. It is after all healthy to have things out in the open.

But for one that have been accustomed to consumer rights and all that, better adjust as you no longer are one, if wanna continue to be involved with the community. As the saying goes sometimes the most expensive things are free.

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