Pretty much. If you shout at the screen "no WAY they could do that!" then the film has failed. If on the other hand you're forced to watch the character exit a building, get in their car, turn on their GPS to find their destination, drive there, dealing with traffic and a missed turn, park, then walk up to the next building and open the door every time it gets old fast.
One example is Goldeneye. The opening sequence starts with a gate on the dam opening and Bond running out onto it. There was a deleted scene that showed him distracting the guards in order to get into their shack and activate the control that opened the gate first...but it was completely unnecessary. What mattered was him jumping off the dam to get to the base entrance below, not how he was able to get past a couple of TV-watching guards to open a powered gate. You saw he had to do some amazing things to get past security and into the Russian base, but you didn't see EVERYTHING he had to do.
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What bothers me the most about Star Wars is the technology. Why does a whole droid model line get wiped out with each movie? The only model that survives is C3-PO and R2-D2. No more BT-1, C2-B5, or K-2SO (Maybe it's a Black thing)
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The SW universe must also have some super crazy AI technology in order to give some of these droids very human-like emotions and motivations.
“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.”
So... Leia's ship was about to be boarded by Vader.... which explains totally why both Rebels and Imperials were shooting to kill the second the door blew in A New Hope. And sure, the diplomatic excuse is tossed as irrelevant.
Buuuuut... then that all makes another scene... a virtual deal-breaker:
"Escape pod!! Lets shoot it!"
" No, save yer ammo, there's no LIFE FORMS onboard..."
(Or words to that effect!)
Makes even less sense now...
- they were looking to recover or destroy plans... not humans
- Vader was not in a careful restrained mood, he'd expect his artillerymen to blastsuch "squirters", escapees.
But we forgive and forget, because "Star Warz!1!"
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I think if you're looking for logical, consistent and water-tight storytelling - then Star Wars is not where you should look for it
It's Star Wars.
I stopped investing anything like emotion into it a long time ago (ROTJ in fact) and now just enjoy it for three reasons: Nostalgia Design Special effects
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Excellent points DM.
Just look at "The Phantom Menace" for example. One of the most laughable weird things has to be how the government of Naboo is set up.
So they have a QUEEN as their head of state but she was elected by the people? Queen is by definition a monarchist term and hence it implies that it is a hereditary title.
If you are going to have elections, then Lucas should have just made Padme a minister, president, chancellor, etc.
“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.”
Just look at "The Phantom Menace" for example. One of the most laughable weird things has to be how the government of Naboo is set up.
So they have a QUEEN as their head of state but she was elected by the people? Queen is by definition a monarchist term and hence it implies that it is a hereditary title.
If you are going to have elections, then Lucas should have just made Padme a minister, president, chancellor, etc.
Well, that part is not without real-world precedent In England a loooong time ago, kings were indeed elected. Then the Normans invaded and it's been foreign family members ever since
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Originally Posted By: DM
Well, that part is not without real-world precedent In England a loooong time ago, kings were indeed elected.
They were elected by the nobles though, not the general population.
“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.”
No, but I think that's fair game in a fantasy story with space elements, set a long timer ago in the future, with lasers that are visible and go "pew, pew" even in a vacuum, cuddly Ewok warriors, dysfunctional robots that show emotion and humor but can't talk, just beep (or gay robots that have no appreciable skills but talking), aerodynamic flight moves in the absence of an atmosphere, careers like that of General Binks, ... need I go on?
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Originally Posted By: Ssnake
careers like that of General Binks, ... need I go on?
Not just General but Bombad General! That's like the equivalent of a Generaloberst in the Deutsche Heer!
edit: Oh and C3PO isn't gay. He's just very poncy English.
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“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.”
Right, droids are asexual. Whatever affectation they may have been programmed to have (which IMO says more about the creator of said droid...) is irrelevant because they don't actually care one way or another.
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I looked for the Rogue One Thread where I commented about the Vietnam style helmets and flak jackets of the Rebels, but could not find it so will stick this here.
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It's the Battlestar Galactica approach of making the military tech seem more basic and "Earth like".
“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.”
Remember the original film used many WWII guns modified by the prop department to look a bit different in lieu of making all new plastic weapons themselves. They needed to follow the same approach or risk it looking out of place.
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Originally Posted by Bib4Tuna
Like the laser canons in ROTS that ejected a giant casing?
That was Lucas-era SW, not JJ Abrams/Disney era.
“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.”