As I indicated yesterday herewith an announcement of OBD plans for 2016/2017.

First off for those who are unaware we have been generously sponsored by Mark Fairchild for the development of our new product for 2017.

So what is the new product?

Well I am sure many have guessed we are using our WOFFUE engine/systems to develop a WW2 Combat Flight sim.
Wings Over The Reich - or as we call it in-house WOTR.

This will follow the exact same lines as OFF/WOFF/WOFFUE in that it will be a phased release.

The intention is that it will eventually encompass the whole of WW2 and will be centered in Europe.
From the Battle of France, Battle of Britain to the massive day and night raids over Germany and German held territories.

The intention is that players will be able to play either side in fighter or bomber squadrons and will have and will build on many of the SP features of WOFFUE.
Aircraft models are all new high poly hi res textured aircraft with even more realistic DM than what is currently in WOFFUE

The world will be alive as will the theater change over time until very little of the main European cities is left.... again much like WOFFUE that has the frontlines moving and devastated tracts of land building up over time.

How long?

We have been burning our candles at both ends for the past year working on both WOTR and WOFFUE.
We will continue to focus more on WOTR in 2017 but still will be releasing add-on packs for WOFFUE.

We anticipate a release hopefully of WOTR P1 in the last quarter 2017 - but we cannot promise a definite release date as usual.

As a spin off we hope then to revisit WOFFUE and incorporate the new features of WOTR as an expansion/upgrade to WOFFUE.

We are aiming high and dreaming big and as usual we will deliver as best a product as we can for both WOFFUE and WOTR.
Future phases of WOTR and WOFFUE post 2017 are entirely dependent on support, sales and finance of course.

We will be updating the Web site in due course.

WM

OBD Software

Western Front. Thank you, Jesus.

Sounds cool!
Now i have 1 year to experience all the fine things of WOFFUE!

Whow, these are big plans, Sirs! Great! All the best for your efforts, will certainly buy it, when it comes out!

Great news! Any chance for air war over Poland in 1939 in WOTR? I would like to see PZL 11c, PZL 23c Karas; and PZL 37 Los; in action

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noooo... we need a voison and Farman

Great, great..
WW2..Western front..

This sounds great Winder. Looking forward to Wings Over The Reich! Also looking forward to whatever future enhancements you may be able to bring back into WOFF UE. This sounds like a win / win to me.

Hum, interesting! Good luck!

Wow! Straight poop right from the horse's mouth! Wait, that didn't sound right... Anyway, sounds like a great idea! You guys have obviously been hard at work and I'm sure the engine consideration has come up, Anything new with stuff like undercarriage modeling, engine component management, weapons systems, ground forces density, etc? Looking forward to the results! Rick Rawlings WWII challenges? I need to retire!

WW2 does have a bigger crowd and potentially more sales, but is not what I'd be interested to buy. It's too bad that WW1 is not a cash cow and you need to move on to other pastures.

Ambitious! I like it.

The two people hoping for a 1920's racing sim must be devastated right now.

It's also good to know that you won't abandon WW1 completely.

Winder

That is great news. I do wonder however, how you will be able to achieve your lofty goals using the same CFS3 engine. I had the impression you folks had pretty much pushed the engine to it's limitw in WOFF UE. Have you managed to augment or mod the engine in some way?

Unsure of how I thought it was going to be a "non-flight" sim but I am not complaining.
I will certainly take the OBD touch on the Western Front in a WW2 flight sim.
Let us know when pre-orders start!

In the meantime I will certainly take all the WOFF stuff you can release.

My God! I dream of flying OFFLINE iin a B-17 with box of 24 to 36 or 48 other B-17's fighting off "intelligent" AI on the way to strike a target in Germany. Not since B-17 the mighty eighth Have I dared to dream like this.

I might have to buy several copies of WOFFUE to support this venture.

I think that Roadmap makes perfect sense. It broadens OBDs potential sales into the much larger WWII genre which makes them more financially viable but with the Official Sponsor (the esteemed Mr. Fairchild) being a lover of WWI, we can have good reason to believe that WOFF UE will not be pressured to be abandoned in favor of the newer product.

WOFF UE is a very polished product that already contains countless hours of enjoyment. (Anyone here mastered all 78 aircraft yet or finished the war once yet from start to end with one country, let alone all of them?) Add-ons keep development going with additional planes, content and features while OBD gets to continue working on new technologies in the more profitable WWII genre, which can then later be ported back to WOFF UE. Short of a sudden, massive resurgence in WWI air combat sims, that is best Roadmap forward one could hope for.

Thanks to OBD for not giving up, to Mr. Fairchild for making this possible, to everyone who has and continues to donate to add extra wind in the sales (see what I did there?) and to all the modders who find creative new ways to expand our playing options and experiences. Best community ever and now with a brighter future than ever.

That sounds like a very promising future OBD! I will be buying no doubt. Hope to see a feature list sometime soon (flyable aircraft etc ).

You have certainly set your sights high. Here's wishing you guys the best.

Great news...I'm in!

TBH i was hoping for a Pacific career but.....This could be the pinnacle of WW2 flight sims. And i for one im really really looking forward to what you guys can produce

Very best of luck to OBD and thanks once again for your outstanding sims (been with you since P2)

Il be flying WOFF UE very soon (having it has a Christmas present) ..in the mean time im going to donate to you guys. You thoroughly deserve every success that hopefully comes your way.

Great post above Hellshade you,ve said everything i thought of but better in your writing.

Once again Thank you to Mfair for his sponsorship..Awesome mate.

But Mostly Thanks To WM and POL and others from the OBD team for your continued work on WOFF and the upcoming WOTR.

Happy Thanksgiving to our American friends..All the best

Adger

+1

The cat is out of the bag exciting times ahead

BTW


Erm not to the plans above obviously, that's all for another decade, time etc.

Guys please no wish lists in this thread. Happens every time we mention something we are doing.

You knew that was coming. Probably just had to cut & paste your answer...hehe

Beawere OBD. Leaving attention will kills the game, like we all did see on Rof.

I hope for OBD this would project be a big seller and making lots of profit.

For the rest I do have Bos & Clod on Steam but not installed, I always try, when there is an intresting game release, but I'm a real WW1 conbatflysim fan.

I also have those titles dutch..along with Battle of britain 2,B17 from Hasbro(Microprose) and IL1946.

The only WW2 sim that i go back to at times is a heavily modded IL1946.

OBD,S attention to detail and unbelievable support is why i am seriously looking forward to this project.

It just could be THE best ww2 flight sim of all time. I have my WW1 favourite (WOFF) and my modern day jet favourite (Falcon BMS). Im absolutely certain that WOTR will be my WW2 Sim of choice.

We're all WW1 fans or else we would not be here - as is OBD in their heart of hearts if I may say.
That being said it certainly does not mean I don't like a good WW2 aviation sim either.
You can have multiple passions but love only one the best.
And for OBD the economic aspects are undeniable. WW2 sells.

Besides...the air war over Germany!
P-51's and 47's escorting the Big Boys in the sky.
And of course the 2nd BoB...plenty of drama there.
All with the OBD touch and attention to detail we have come to expect?
Yessir. Sign me up.

I can't fault OBD for concentrating on the European Theatre, but I've yearned for a long time for a Nomenhan Campaign where the Soviets clashed with the Japanese. I've always wanted a furball between Nakijima Ki-97's and Boeing P-26's.

Absolutely Duke..and im waiting in anticipation at the sound of starting up my Rolls Royce merlin engine on my 1st morning patrol in my Supermarine Spitfire,its gonna be awesome

Sounds great. The dynamic campaign is the gem of WOFF and I will love to see a WW2 sim of similar quality. Not sure how you guys will find the time, but glad that you do!!

What great news! The European air war with WOFF's single player greatness, can't wait to see what's in store.

Resisting the urge to barrage you guys with a million questions, but one thing I'm dying to know - have you made any improvements to CFS3's woeful AI radio communications?

There really was hardly anything there, and with radios comes so much more possible immersion that this is the only thing I'm 'worried about' in terms of what can be pulled off with CFS3. Well, that and the numbers of AI needed in the air for some of the bigger raids, but frankly even if you couldn't pull that off and only focused on the tactical fighter-bomber side of things that would be fine with me.

Thanks for any info, and good luck!

I cannot believe it... an immersive, single player, WWII flight sim with dynamic campaigns - a dream come true.

A year away... OMG how can I wait that long... oh I know, have faith in OBD and fly WOFF UE !!

Outstanding

Your devotion, passion and attention to detail - applied to a WW2 setting?
Not to mention the breathtaking career mode

I can say only one thing

A WW2 flight sim with the kind of immersive single player career mode as in WOFF is sorely missing from the market right now.

Awesome news....WW2 with the OBD touch sounds like just what I need...right now.... LOL I'm sure it will be worth the wait!

I can't wait for the first, screenshots...
I'm a bit sceptic about the use of the old CFS3 engine, though...

Oh, to run once again head-on, hair ablaze, through viermot formations in a 190..
Be still my beating heart.

What a great treat this will be. Of course it will be done to the level of OBD's design and craftsmanship. Something sweet to look forward to, and we know this will be longer than 'two weeks'. No matter what the timeframe it will be done right! WOFF/WOTR devs rock. Again thanks to MFair if his support helped this out. I'm intrigued by Winders statement, "As a spin off we hope then to revisit WOFFUE and incorporate the new features of WOTR as an expansion/upgrade to WOFFUE". Whatever that may include sounds interesting. Anyway hope this help OBD stay in operation for a long time! S

Yeah! I hope some of the great developers in CFS3 will be interested in helping as much as they can. There are still a few left; I'm sure Mark knows who they are!

WM
I'm in.. pre-ordered WOTR any time you ODB want to start the list. I'm in for any and all WOFFUE expansions, updates OBD releases.

Sounds like a really focused plan.

You may count on my support in whatever way it is required.

Answering Hellshade's call to arms was hopefully a catalyst for OBD to persevere. I and others have already answered it with one time or recurring monthly payments. I strongly suspect this announcement will spur further generosity from the community.

Ok, laddies! Now we know what's in the hanger! Time to crack your piggy banks to our mutual benefit....





Rick

Guys one thing I do want to add is remember we have written almost all the code in WOFFUE barring rendering so all the limitations you might think are there preventing a truly great WW2 sim.....are not.


WM

If I've read correctly WM,does your statement basically say that there's nearly zero CFS3 code left in WOTR?
If so that's brilliant,maybe a bit to soon but il ask anyway ....will CFS3 be required?

Best of luck to you,Pol and the rest of the team in this project,I sent a donation yesterday..another will be made next payday.

I wanted to ask that as well.I gave away my CFS3 disk and WoFF some years ago (decided WW1 wasn't my thing) but a WW2 setting? You have my attention.

Interesting move, will keep and eye here, I wish you very good luck mates!!

This is tremendous news indeed!

Made my year to hear this is coming and its Western Front.

Put me down for the" WW2 sim" at whatever the cost is. Per usual I will send $100 at you keep the change.

Great news!

Oh snap! This is great news! Would love me some B-17 bombing runs and trying to survive 25 missions early on.

Agreed! Please take my money ASAP!

This is fantastic news. If the new simulator has the completeness in terms of types of aircraft and geographical locations of WOFF, and if Virtual Reality is supported (I no longer have the setup to fly without is) this is a sure buy for me.

Nahhh... they only have one wing

We shall see....
Cheers,
shredward

what do ya think i'm working on right now? projects have to be scored at least a year in advance, and that's in a quiet year

If I didn't already have an interest in the WWII ETO, the thought that the new features in WOTR could potentially be incorporated into WOFF UE would be more than enough to make me purchase WOTR anyway. Of course, there are no guarantees but to me these are very exciting possibilities.

The potential WOFF UE benefits aside, I'm also excited to fly a Spitfire and P51 Mustang against the best that the Reich has to offer. 2017 isn't that far away. Hopefully we will get some news in the next few months.

Matt, I'm very much looking forward to hearing your new score. I'm sure it will epic, as always.

In my head I keep seeing or being part of a huge box 36 to 48 B-24's or B-17's. waves of ME's and FW's

I really hope this is possible with realistic tactics and multi engine behaviors shutting down engines....dropping the bombs early to decrease weight....etc.....

I want to fly the whole darn mission from England and back. Big formation. Damaged friends.

Surely, if you're working on music, it's the opposite of quiet?

WOW. Just read this. Excellent news.

I've posted a link to this thread on my Facebook page!

More than willing to publish an article on the blog if anyone at OBD fancies writing one about yourselves and the future!

Great to hear something so positive from you, Winder!

I guess the engine is one of the very few to allow for a big number of aircraft in the skies?
That should make it a good basis for a WW2 air combat sim.



You gave us a perfect musical mood of the era of wood & canvas byplanes, Mat -
I'm sure you will come up with a great score and mood for the late 30s and fourties!
Couldn't think of anyone better for the job!

Holy Cow this is awesome news! A dream come true! I mean, count me in!
Please take my money!!!!!

Best wishes OBD. May you have great success for all of your hard work and dedication.

I wanted to join the others in saying that I am fully on board with this fantastic project! Feels like a very natural progression from what's been built up with WOFF and it gives you a perfect springboard to create a world-class WWII sim in the lineage of the great classics like European Air War. I can't wait to see it! I'll be first in line to pick it up. In the meantime, keep the addon packs and bonuses coming, I'll be here to enjoy all of it!

Cheers and Merry Christmas!

Well of course I'll buy it. I think an opportunity to fly a Lancaster bomber in a night attack over berlin is to be looked forward to with glee!...I'm hoping it will have more interesting content than the old Spit V 109 routine?

What would also be very cool (if the CFS3 engine could do it) is the night fighter OPS.
Me-110G vs the Lancaster! Mosquito Intruders vs the 110's and Ju88's?
That's something that would be very nice as a break from downing 109's in my trusty Mustang while escorting the heavies and shredding ground targets with the 8(!) .50 cals on my P-47. Or wading in a bomber box in my FW-190. Or flying in the 2nd BoB in my Spit chasing Do-17's and Ju-87's? Do I need to keep going?
Oh yea. My imagination can run wild.

We will see, because it is become rather difficult now TeamFusion is going to be commercial and has now the source code from CLOD, thanks to 1C. BoX is going towards 64bit/DirectX11 and the much needed sp campaign mode, while DCS also seems to have its improvements.

The actual Woff'ers do not have to be convince about OBD's splendid workmanship, if having patience we all know this will be good, only I think this would be a hell of task to reach the players outside the Woff scene.

oh sweetie, we've been here before. You know that we'll make the best go of it we can; everyone will do their best to ensure the quality of the product is second to none and that it can hold its own against any contemporary title no matter how amazing they'll be, and that we will carve a place for WotR out of the market with our bare hands: that's just our style. The public at large has responded to that, and will come to us from all sorts of other products for wotr as well.

An artist is like a climber: it's our job to show you that no matter the insurmountable challenge of the mountain; with determination, skill, and a good deal of nerve, the top can be reached just like any other.

Have to tell a little story about this. I bought WoFF a week ago, never even heard about it until a few weeks ago.
Normally i am a MP pilot only, mostly doing dynamic campaigns with my squadron.
Read about WoFF in the BoS Forums, there is a topic about this new project WotR, and people were talking about WoFF. Before that i thought i already own all "real" and to-date combat sims (1946, CloD, RoF, BoX, Falcon, DCS), so i was astonished to miss this one, until i heard it's SP only, which really doesn't interest me at all (at least i thought so). I read all about it regardless, and started watching some of the rare Youtube videos out there..started asking questions to people in the BoS forum who own it. Then there is the issue, that i only have Internet with blocked ports (University) for a couple of month, so not able to fly online for that time. I was thinking about keeping in shape in SP, but all those Sims i mentioned just weren't fun. So i started seriously thinking about WoFF...the high asking price still put me off. Not in the position currently to spend 100 bucks (including taxes) on a game i am going to shelve after 3 hours because i get bored - which was an expected outcome, looking at the other Sims. Well long story short - i took the risk and bought it at 25% off. Didn't look back since then. So far i am in my 17th mission into the dynamic campaign, and i love it. Never thought you can have that much fun in a single player flight sim. It's leaps and bounds ahead any other Sim in single player. I see myself keep on flying it now and then even when i got my proper Internet back. And i am definitely gonna invest in the WW2 project as well..
What i wanted to say with that small story - if this game can seduce me, and drag me over from the other (MP) side, it should be a no-brainer for every single-player focused simmer. Seriously, if i would only fly SP, this would be the only Sim i need.

Hi Manu,
Thanks for your comments - it's what OBD strives for - enjoyment, immersion and historical accuracy.
Spread the word,

Thanks.

Awesome news indeed! Can't wait for this new WWII sim

OBD,

This is to me FANTASTIC news and WW2 sim build ontop of what you guys made for WOFF is something I was hoping you would pursuit at one point after making WW1 sim experience.

You have my full support. Spreading the word. Ohh the impatient waiting will be worth it I am sure.

TimeFusedExistence, I have a strong feeling that you are going to win the furtherest forum member contest.

I do have some potentially bad news for you sir. I dont think we have internet or mail service to your location