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#4309432 - 11/06/16 09:27 AM Re: 2K11-M1 KRUG-M1 (SA-4B Ganef) ***** [Re: Hpasp]  
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Imho 3M8M1 = 3M8M

WarPact received the 3M8M2 and the 3M8M3 version.

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#4309437 - 11/06/16 09:52 AM Re: 2K11-M1 KRUG-M1 (SA-4B Ganef) [Re: Hpasp]  
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Thank you for explanation.

#4310522 - 11/09/16 04:33 PM Re: 2K11-M1 KRUG-M1 (SA-4B Ganef) [Re: Jarda1S32]  
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Originally Posted By: Jarda1S32
Hi again all those interested in the Krug. So as promised, I started up the turbine generator. So far I have to control the valves manually since the control block is missing but I'm in a process of developing it's supplement. Also I managed to power up some instruments inside (yeah, almost in the exact way like it's in the sam sim:)) but unfortunatelly I didn't have time to properly try what's working and what isn't.... Also the antenna block isnt't connected at all. I'll try to bring some of the systems to life when we manage to acquire a diesel 400Hz generator which is quiter and much more fuel efficient... Check out a short video I made! https://youtu.be/XEh6Z8mzdHk

and some pictures here..




What would be cool is if you could wire it into samsim somehow.
I.E. play Samsim on your real Pat Hand. smile


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But the one addressed:
"To Whom It May Concern"
#4310546 - 11/09/16 06:08 PM Re: 2K11-M1 KRUG-M1 (SA-4B Ganef) [Re: Hpasp]  
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Great one!
Soon you wouldn't need SAMSIM at all!
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Hpasp
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(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#4314019 - 11/21/16 06:29 PM Re: 2K11-M1 KRUG-M1 (SA-4B Ganef) [Re: Hpasp]  
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Krug rules the world.:))
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Actually there's a device (don't know the code by heart) which allows you to simulate the target signals for training purposes. We don't have it though. Another device was used on 2P24s to simulate rockets.

#4331616 - 01/26/17 10:34 AM Re: 2K11-M1 KRUG-M1 (SA-4B Ganef) [Re: Hpasp]  
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Hpasp
Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#4332403 - 01/28/17 05:09 PM Re: 2K11-M1 KRUG-M1 (SA-4B Ganef) [Re: Hpasp]  
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Nice picture thumbsup Where is it from?

#4347014 - 03/26/17 05:36 PM Re: 2K11-M1 KRUG-M1 (SA-4B Ganef) [Re: Hpasp]  
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Krug rules the world.:))
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Hi again. I have some offtopic here. smile We didn't have much time to work on our hobby during the winter but I still have some news. After a long time, we managed to acquire a power generator for Krug (and Kub). Actually two of them. The first is a 40kVA diesel generator, which is already working and the second one is a 30kVA rotary converter (electrical motor powered from the grid rotates 400Hz generator). So I'm almost ready to finally start the job... I'm especially excited about powering up the 2P24, because since its turbine isn't operational yet, I never had it powered..

Here're some pictures:

Diesel generator:

[Linked Image]
[Linked Image]

Rotary converter:

[Linked Image]
[Linked Image]

By the way, if someone was near Prague, both Krug and Kub will be on display at Tankodrom Milovice on 29th of April. I'll start the turbine on request. biggrin

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#4364535 - 06/17/17 09:43 PM Re: 2K11-M1 KRUG-M1 (SA-4B Ganef) [Re: Hpasp]  
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Krug rules the world.:))
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Hi, so I'm here again to report some progress.
Today I managed to turn on the rotary converter VPL-30 to power up some basic systems of both 1S32 and 2P24. Still waiting for a better power plug because now I'm limited with maximum power to let's say 15kW which isn't much but still it's interesting. You can take a look here how the VPL runs.
Basic power-up of 1S32 was a success, although many systems are out of order. Which I'm going to work on. Here's a short video of how it went. smile Didn't really have time to film but I can tell that the computer is in a pretty good shape. On the other end some referential voltages are missing so I'll have to go through the power blocks... Oh well. Also I have some pictures of the tubes glowing. :p

[Linked Image] [Linked Image] [Linked Image]

As for the 2P24, it was even more interesting. I was able to turn on the original amplidynes which were in fact powering the motors and moving the rocket platform. Although I made some mistakes which resulted in some jerky movement, I think it'll work. Next time I'm going to make a video showing how to power up the 2P24. :))

#4364617 - 06/18/17 02:14 PM Re: 2K11-M1 KRUG-M1 (SA-4B Ganef) [Re: Hpasp]  
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[Linked Image]

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Photo - Col. Stoykov...

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#4366505 - 06/28/17 08:21 AM Re: 2K11-M1 KRUG-M1 (SA-4B Ganef) [Re: Hpasp]  
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Krug rules the world.:))
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Doesn't Col. Stoykov (or someone else for that matter) have some documentation for Krug? I'm desperately looking for schematics of 1S32. I have those for 2P24. Without it it's really hard and time consuming to move forward. That's why I got the 2P24 almost fully operational and 1S32 lies in the shadow...

#4366611 - 06/28/17 07:40 PM Re: 2K11-M1 KRUG-M1 (SA-4B Ganef) [Re: Jarda1S32]  
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Originally Posted by Jarda1S32
Doesn't Col. Stoykov (or someone else for that matter) have some documentation for Krug? I'm desperately looking for schematics of 1S32. I have those for 2P24. Without it it's really hard and time consuming to move forward. That's why I got the 2P24 almost fully operational and 1S32 lies in the shadow...



I will ask...

#4366707 - 06/29/17 09:09 AM Re: 2K11-M1 KRUG-M1 (SA-4B Ganef) [Re: Hpasp]  
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Thank you. I can offer some Czech documentation in return. Or an access to both 1S32 and 2P24. This offer applies for anyone here, if you happen to be near Prague.:)
Also I created this youtube channel for our Krug.

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#4366710 - 06/29/17 10:09 AM Re: 2K11-M1 KRUG-M1 (SA-4B Ganef) [Re: Jarda1S32]  
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Originally Posted by Jarda1S32
Thank you. I can offer some Czech documentation in return. Or an access to both 1S32 and 2P24. This offer applies for anyone here, if you happen to be near Prague.:)
Also I created this youtube channel for our Krug.


BTW, do you have an FB account? (you or your Krug)?

#4366715 - 06/29/17 10:35 AM Re: 2K11-M1 KRUG-M1 (SA-4B Ganef) [Re: piston79]  
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Krug rules the world.:))
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Yes, I do https://www.facebook.com/jarda.bursik

The Krug doesn't have its own facebook page so far.. It's a good idea though. biggrin

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#4513106 - 03/27/20 09:15 PM Re: 2K11-M1 KRUG-M1 (SA-4B Ganef) [Re: Hpasp]  
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#4529662 - 07/12/20 04:45 PM Re: 2K11-M1 KRUG-M1 (SA-4B Ganef) [Re: Hpasp]  
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Hello!

I have a couple of questions...

Can a 3M8M Krug missile be launched ballisticaly with no guidance (lets say in case of emergency), like the Kub missile can?
Can a 3M8M missile be launched from 2P24M if the launch command does not execute from 1S32M?

Thanks in advance....

#4532574 - 08/04/20 03:52 PM Re: 2K11-M1 KRUG-M1 (SA-4B Ganef) [Re: Hpasp]  
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The second question is probably not without 1S32 in any way, everything is interconnected... Why?

#4532607 - 08/04/20 07:29 PM Re: 2K11-M1 KRUG-M1 (SA-4B Ganef) [Re: Jammer5236]  
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Originally Posted by Jammer5236
The second question is probably not without 1S32 in any way, everything is interconnected... Why?


It is interesting to me. I used to be, among other duties, commander of PU 2P25M2 in the Kub regiment. It is possible to launch a missile from PU if the command wont go through from SURN (Kub missile system).
So...the 1S32 commander presses "PUSK", (lets say the "PUSK" button is stuck or broken or....) and the command does not go through, can missile be launched from PU 2P24M?

Also. does anyone have a scheme or pictures or video from inside the PU 2P24M so that we can see the operator work place and operators command control deck?

Thanks in advance.... smile

#4532705 - 08/05/20 10:13 AM Re: 2K11-M1 KRUG-M1 (SA-4B Ganef) [Re: Kub operator]  
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Originally Posted by Kub operator
Originally Posted by Jammer5236
The second question is probably not without 1S32 in any way, everything is interconnected... Why?


It is interesting to me. I used to be, among other duties, commander of PU 2P25M2 in the Kub regiment. It is possible to launch a missile from PU if the command wont go through from SURN (Kub missile system).
So...the 1S32 commander presses "PUSK", (lets say the "PUSK" button is stuck or broken or....) and the command does not go through, can missile be launched from PU 2P24M?

Also. does anyone have a scheme or pictures or video from inside the PU 2P24M so that we can see the operator work place and operators command control deck?

Thanks in advance.... smile




It is logical to be in that way... Try to contact this guy - Jarda1S32, he could help!

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