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#4299627 - 09/28/16 03:16 AM Elon Musk Unveils Mars Colonisation Plan  
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#4299630 - 09/28/16 03:24 AM Re: Elon Musk Unveils Mars Colonisation Plan [Re: F4UDash4]  
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Really want to see what kind of interior these new ships have to accommodate a crew to travel
to Mars. Its a large ship, but its what`s inside to keep a crew happy for journey is what matters.
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I really admire someone who can think big about something good, and then make concrete progress in that direction.

#4299803 - 09/30/16 03:07 PM Re: Elon Musk Unveils Mars Colonisation Plan [Re: F4UDash4]  
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I really admire someone who can think big about something good, and then make concrete progress in that direction



As do I. There are precious few left in the world


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#4299815 - 09/30/16 03:31 PM Re: Elon Musk Unveils Mars Colonisation Plan [Re: F4UDash4]  
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Hey, I'm one of em. Thought about eating bar food for lunch and dammit that's probably what I'll do today.


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#4299873 - 09/30/16 06:17 PM Re: Elon Musk Unveils Mars Colonisation Plan [Re: F4UDash4]  
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Elon Musk sounds like such a cool name for a Jedi!


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Originally Posted By: Jedi Master
Of course, he won't fly on it. smile



There is no evidence to support that supposition, in fact he has stated his intention is to die on Mars.


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http://fortune.com/2016/09/29/elon-musk-mars-3/

That doesn't seem to indicate he's thinking of it any time soon.





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He's 45 years old, if he lives an average life span he has 30+ years to go before dying on Mars.


His not being first on Mars has zero bearing on anything, IMO.


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Musk expressed his interest in eventually going to Mars in that conference (second video in the O.P.), but also recognized the need for a strong hand guiding the effort to establish the colonization transport system. He indicated that a good succession plan was a prerequisite to his taking the risk of going.

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Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
Elon Musk sounds like such a cool name for a Jedi!


or a cologne.


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The interesting part isn't the plans, but the progress. Already have VTOL stuff progressing, engines built, fuel tanks built, etc. The colony ships aren't just some hooplah plans on paper.

I really regret not being around and able to see a Saturn V launch. I hope to see one of these instead.


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#4300923 - 10/05/16 08:38 AM Re: Elon Musk Unveils Mars Colonisation Plan [Re: F4UDash4]  
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What puzzles me is that there is no mention of planning
whatsoever for the activity on the surface of the planet.
Presumably there must be some planning for the fuel generating
facility, but that's a tiny part of the challenge. He's
talking almost immediate settlement, and that means providing
local dependable air, water, heat and food. And I just read
that martian soil contains a perchlorates, which are somewhat
toxic. There are a lot of pretty significant components to
devise, integrate, and optimize for even a basic outpost;
but Elon seems to be mainly focussed on providing a vehicle.

This is where the analogy with the railroad opening up the
west, or ships delivering colonists to the New World, breaks
down. It's not enough to arrive with a few bags of seed grain
and an axe. It's a huge and rather inspiring challenge to work
out how to bootstrap a complete civilization from scratch with
a minimum of supplies from the home planet, but I don't see
evidence of much progress toward that. So much of what we take
for granted here is based on a huge pyramid of complex
interdependent industries. How do you make do without that,
when you are trying to make sure you can breathe and eat and
not freeze?

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Excellent post PV1.


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