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#4291180 - 08/28/16 11:58 AM Backpacking and in particular MREs and Hippies ruining it  
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Okay, so I just got back from a backpacking trip...where I pack everything in and out. Weight is a big deal considering I drink about 3-4L of water a day. Last time I packed 12 L to this spot and that's not fun. As I say, this spot doesn't have much water where I went so I've got to lug a lot of that anyway too. Well because of that I'm not carrying water for cooking. So in those cases I use MREs.

Well, they changed the packing so instead of the entrees and side (what you heat) coming in a box, they are just in their foil bag. When you heat them with the heater, they get at best luke warm now. Why? Because some idiot decided that the cardboard was waste, or more likely not "green," when in reality it was a friggin oven. Put the heater and food in the box, and it was steaming hot in 5 to 10. That's right, they still put cardboard in the bag with their stupid mandated govt "nutrition facts" (here's a clue, chemicals, fat, protein and sugar) just it is a card, not a box.

So, I guess I've got to find a new option. Any ideas besides packing my own cardboard box to reuse until it falls apart???

Maybe I need a "rock." Grrrrrrr. Rant off.


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#4291182 - 08/28/16 12:15 PM Re: Backpacking and in particular MREs and Hippies ruining it [Re: Airdrop01]  
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A rock or something.

Not having eaten any recent production MREs, all I can suggest is that maybe a different packager still includes the cardboard boxes. Or, maybe trees are still killed en mass for "civilian" MREs.


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#4291184 - 08/28/16 12:24 PM Re: Backpacking and in particular MREs and Hippies ruining it [Re: Airdrop01]  
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Fast for a couple of days?

Don't know how far it is but maybe hump 5 gal of water in first then another trip with all your camp stuff.

Hire a water bearer?

Eat the Hippies?


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#4291189 - 08/28/16 12:39 PM Re: Backpacking and in particular MREs and Hippies ruining it [Re: NH2112]  
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Originally Posted By: NH2112
A rock or something.




ROFLMAO!!

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#4291193 - 08/28/16 12:52 PM Re: Backpacking and in particular MREs and Hippies ruining it [Re: F4UDash4]  
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Originally Posted By: F4UDash4
Originally Posted By: NH2112
A rock or something.




ROFLMAO!!

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That's why I wrote it.


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#4291221 - 08/28/16 04:02 PM Re: Backpacking and in particular MREs and Hippies ruining it [Re: Airdrop01]  
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If the government makes it, a civilian company somewhere makes a better one. Time to branch out biggrin


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#4291227 - 08/28/16 04:16 PM Re: Backpacking and in particular MREs and Hippies ruining it [Re: Airdrop01]  
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Just buy your own heaters to use with the MREs then reuse the cardboard sleeve until it is destroyed on your current MREs.

https://www.thereadystore.com/mre-flameless-heater-case-of-72

#4291235 - 08/28/16 04:57 PM Re: Backpacking and in particular MREs and Hippies ruining it [Re: Airdrop01]  
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While I can't speak to modern MRE's (I left Big Army when we were still hunting for Meatballs in BBQ sauce and avoiding the Tuna With Noodles), my favorite Army instructions are still the ones with the GP medium tent.

Little stick men performing the task and "talking" to each other.

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#4291348 - 08/29/16 03:24 AM Re: Backpacking and in particular MREs and Hippies ruining it [Re: Airdrop01]  
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Are you getting actual military MREs or the civilian equivalent?

The last mil MRE I ate was just over a year ago and it still had the cardboard box and the food heated up nicely.


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#4291405 - 08/29/16 10:51 AM Re: Backpacking and in particular MREs and Hippies ruining it [Re: Airdrop01]  
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You shouldnt be eating eco-friendly Military MREs! Its the MILITARY FFS! biggrin
Even if they put a program in place 5 years back it takes time for that big a change to filter through because of the HUGE stockpile of m.. Doesnt it?

Did you buy/borrow/"borrow" from a different source? Is it the Civvy equivalent to a real MRE?
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#4291430 - 08/29/16 12:31 PM Re: Backpacking and in particular MREs and Hippies ruining it [Re: Airdrop01]  
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These are from Meal Kit Supply. I but them in pretty small amounts, two cases at a time for our family backpacking trips. The ones made as recently as 2014 had the boxes. But the last of those is gone and so I just grabbed them from a new case for this trip. It looks like they were made in May of 15.

I am gonna call if I can find a number, or else email, the company today and see what I can find out. Before them, probably last around 2000, I used military ones, but they were honestly not as good (except they did at least have Tobasco and in each one which helped). I think I also got some back in the 90s from Sopacko.

This just totally seems like something someone thought was a good idea in an office somewhere without actually thinking..... "Hey, let's be green and cut out is box waste."

Oh well. Guess I'll have to adapt.. I'm old. I don't like doing that. The world has left me way way behind!


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Originally Posted By: Airdrop01


So, I guess I've got to find a new option. Any ideas besides packing my own cardboard box to reuse until it falls apart???

Maybe I need a "rock." Grrrrrrr. Rant off.


Some come with boxes, others don't. Just depends on who makes them. There are a couple of companies that make MREs, you can tell by the small changes in printing and such.

You don't need a box, you put the food inside the heater with the water, Make sure the heater is on the bottom, prop it at a 60 degree angle and it will get hot. How do I know? I've ate more than I want to remember or admit. For 5 weeks in Africa, I ate them exclusively except for 2 meals and that is because we butchered a goat and a pig. The other time was for diplomatic reasons, I got invited to a meal with the Africans.


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#4296710 - 09/16/16 01:08 PM Re: Backpacking and in particular MREs and Hippies ruining it [Re: Airdrop01]  
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Fresh pig, baby. I seriously bet that was good. I love making whole hog BBQ!


"For I know the plans that I have for you," declares the Lord, "plans for welfare and not for calamity to give you a future and a hope." Jeremiah 29:11

Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you, and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. Matthew 5:11

Indeed we call blessed those who have persevered. You have heard of the perseverance of Job, and you have seen the purpose of the Lord, because “the Lord is compassionate and merciful. James 5:11
#4296731 - 09/16/16 01:57 PM Re: Backpacking and in particular MREs and Hippies ruining it [Re: Airdrop01]  
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Originally Posted By: Airdrop01
Originally Posted By: F4UDash4
Originally Posted By: NH2112
A rock or something.




ROFLMAO!!

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That's why I wrote it.


Ha ha! Me and the wife had a good laugh over that the first time she had an MRE. Then she was surprised how tasty it actually was.


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#4296732 - 09/16/16 01:58 PM Re: Backpacking and in particular MREs and Hippies ruining it [Re: arthur666]  
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Originally Posted By: arthur666
Then she was surprised how tasty it actually was.


I tried a chicken & rice MRE once back during the 1990's. It was actually ok but the biggest problem was the lingering after-taste that lasted for quite a while. I'd imagine those MRE's have a crapload of preservatives in them.


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#4296740 - 09/16/16 02:16 PM Re: Backpacking and in particular MREs and Hippies ruining it [Re: Airdrop01]  
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It depends on the MRE and when it was made (I'm assuming 1990s MREs were much worse than today's). Some are the spawn of Satan.


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#4296766 - 09/16/16 03:36 PM Re: Backpacking and in particular MREs and Hippies ruining it [Re: Airdrop01]  
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Omelette. Yum? Ok no. Thank gawd they stopped with that one. No one ever wanted vegi burger. I had a huge supply of one of the better tasting IMO MRE's for quite sometime. Well until it caught on or everyone was sick of everything else. I liked that one with its funky shredded potato things. Was so easy to trade for it for months. rofl Only problem was trying to trade for jalapeno squeeze cheese. The vegi patty with the snack bread, wheat, and that peppy weirdo cheese was like my favorite thing for sometime in MRE land.

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#4296792 - 09/16/16 04:41 PM Re: Backpacking and in particular MREs and Hippies ruining it [Re: Airdrop01]  
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If I remember correctly, we had some italian style pasta dishes, vegetarian, ~2004 vintage. I used to always take a couple of MRE on backpacking trips to supplement my Whisper-Lite cooking, especially if it's raining and I'ld rather not set up the stove in a tent if I don't have to.

#4296801 - 09/16/16 05:05 PM Re: Backpacking and in particular MREs and Hippies ruining it [Re: Airdrop01]  
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good channel for MRE history....

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