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#4280388 - 07/20/16 04:13 PM Star Trek Beyond  
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93% on Rottentomatoes so far even though it's only based on 43 critics reviews so that score may change a bit. Either way, I'll be seeing it this Saturday.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/star_trek_beyond/


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#4280413 - 07/20/16 05:54 PM Re: Star Trek Beyond [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Yes, I saw that, and hope it's a good indication that it's better than the previous two, at least. I'm looking forward to hearing what you thought of it.


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#4280437 - 07/20/16 08:21 PM Re: Star Trek Beyond [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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The odds of it being the best one are slim. Remember that 93% isn't an absolute objective scale, it will be biased by the reviewers' expectations based on the previous ones and other current films (like Star Wars).
So if they loved the 2009 ST, this could mean "almost as good".



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Let us know how it goes. The first two (the second especially for whatever reason) I found incredibly gag inducing. Basically Transformers with an Enterprise thrown in.


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#4280439 - 07/20/16 08:21 PM Re: Star Trek Beyond [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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But 100% less Shia.



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#4280681 - 07/21/16 04:48 PM Re: Star Trek Beyond [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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So 93% is good, or it's 93% rotten? I never understand what I'm seeing with that sight. Is it a red rotten tomato, a green splat or a campfire? None sound positive to me.


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#4280691 - 07/21/16 05:00 PM Re: Star Trek Beyond [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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It means that 93% of the critics reviews are positive while 7% are negative.


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Just got home from watching this and I felt it was overall a pretty solid film. Its biggest strength is that it didn't have the gaping plot holes that we saw with "Into Darkness".

What struck me the most about this film is that I couldn't tell at all that this was made by a different director. In both style and pacing, Justin Lin was indistinguishable from JJ Abrams.


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Saw it yesterday. If say that in general it felt like a really good 2 part TNG episode. However, it turned into Attack of the Killer Tomatoes towards the end and almost ruined the movie for me. Maybe I missed it out maybe they just glossed over it, but I didn't hear a real reason for the transformation etc. Or why he reverted his appearance to almost normal.


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#4281631 - 07/24/16 09:02 PM Re: Star Trek Beyond [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Raw, that was my feeling too, but my wife seemed to get it. She said that he takes on the form of whatever lifeform he absorbs. Because he had been sucking the human's life force after capturing the E crew, he was beginning to revert to his human form.

Again, I'm not sure if we were supposed to figure that out, or if I missed it, but it sounds good to me!


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#4281638 - 07/24/16 09:30 PM Re: Star Trek Beyond [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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OK, that works for me. He also vampire someone right before looking almost human again at the end.


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#4281757 - 07/25/16 12:32 PM Re: Star Trek Beyond [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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My thoughts:

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I liked it.

I am really impressed with their research into the "Enterprise era" of Starfleet/Federation with the Romulan war, (I actually want to read the book series on that now) formation of the UNFP, Disbandment of the MACOs, formation of Starfleet, how you could see the USS Franklin's lineage descended from the NX-01. - I Loved that aspect, they really did get that bit right, but with Mr Pegg in charge of writing, I expected nothing less. smile

It actually blew me away how they got all those bits just #%&*$# so, I missed the whole how Krall goes nuts and becomes the villain.
Even a reprise of Sabotage, Balls out, #%&*$# A, man! #%&*$# A!!

Nit picking the details:
The UNFP "Federation" is a Government, Star fleet is the "Armed Forces" of that Government.

I think making Starfleet a non military organisation is a big mistake.
OK primary mission is to explore but priority 2 should be defend your established territories.
(I know it goes against Gene's vision, but hope for the best, plan for the worst.)


Look how strung out the Dominion War was.
If the Fed had a dedicated War Fleet and Marines instead of "Security" they'd have battered the Cardassians in half the time.

I know, I know.... Plot.

I was also impressed the crew wore slightly more adequate clothing for the situation.


So my rating 9/10 Its up there with "First contact" & "Wrath of Khan"

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#4281874 - 07/25/16 06:37 PM Re: Star Trek Beyond [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Come to think of it, Mars Attacks! used the "music kills the enemy" bit too. That and Attack of the Killer Tomatoes. Not good company for an otherwise good ST movie.
Really a bad call.


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Originally Posted By: Raw Kryptonite
Come to think of it, Mars Attacks! used the "music kills the enemy" bit too. That and Attack of the Killer Tomatoes. Not good company for an otherwise good ST movie.
Really a bad call.


Yeah, that was the only thing about the movie that really bugged me. It was cheesy. It's like the video game-like scene in the first JJ Trek where Scotty transported directly into one of the water pipes and Kirk had to get him out before he drowned.


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Saw it today. It was OK. I felt that there was too much spasmodic filming of action scenes. And the Kung-fu fighting went on way too long. One thing that really suspended my acceptance was how these space craft were able to take huge amounts of physical damage entering the atmosphere and ricocheting down several mountain strikes and a surface impact and still be partly functioning. And then one shakes itself out of debris, again ricochet off several mountain strikes and do a planetary exit. Yeah, they find a motorcycle in the old Franklin, but are we to believe that it's gas, oil, and electrical system are still working ? I could go on and on, but my summation was - way too much spasmodic action and way too little story development.


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Originally Posted By: oldgrognard
Saw it today. It was OK. I felt that there was too much spasmodic filming of action scenes. And the Kung-fu fighting went on way too long. One thing that really suspended my acceptance was how these space craft were able to take huge amounts of physical damage entering the atmosphere and ricocheting down several mountain strikes and a surface impact and still be partly functioning. And then one shakes itself out of debris, again ricochet off several mountain strikes and do a planetary exit. Yeah, they find a motorcycle in the old Franklin, but are we to believe that it's gas, oil, and electrical system are still working ? I could go on and on, but my summation was - way too much spasmodic action and way too little story development.


Agree precisely.

Throwing in the gratuitous homosexual embrace for Sulu for the shore leave sequence near the beginning was extremely unwelcome and off-putting (both morally, and in deviation from the original series, whatever Takai's off screen choices).

Less objectionable, but still not recommending the movie to any future viewing on my part, was the dig at military careers (soldiers want war) and the continuation (from Into the Darkness) of the inane Roddenberry mantra that Starfleet (the organization made up of armed starships crewed by uniformed personnel) is not a military force, and that military force is somehow not necessary to safe preservation civilization against everyone that wants to kill it.

Definitely questionable at this point whether I purchase it on Blu Ray (which would be a bit of a first for a Star Trek movie for me).

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Kudos to Takei at least for his objection to making Sulu gay. He resisted the massive social media pressure to just cave in say "yeah I think it's great!"

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Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
Kudos to Takei at least for his objection to making Sulu gay. He resisted the massive social media pressure to just cave in say "yeah I think it's great!"


Definitely.

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I have to agree with the above comments + Early in the film, a feeling of Political overtones. Under-developed Story kinda hurt in the editing department. However, it was a good popcorn movie.

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So far the box office performance of "Beyond" is significantly trailing that of the previous two JJ directed films. Why is that? It's not clear yet if interest in Star Trek is waning again with the mainstream audiences or if it's something else. The majority of the critics reviews have been favorable.


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